Hatch and Lindsay: thirty-six years is a long time

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  • Ajax Mapleton, UT
    March 8, 2012 10:20 p.m.

    I too consider Senator Hatch to be a liability. And the more he panders to the ultra-right, the more distasteful and frankly dangerous I find him. I see nothing but trouble in mixing ideology with politics and deem such as the last thing we need more of in Washington.

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    March 8, 2012 4:29 p.m.

    it would be better for us to have a democratic senator, to match the democratic president we will have for the next five years; and who knows after that.
    I'll bet Matheson could give Hatch a run for the seat

  • goatesnotes Kamas, UT
    March 8, 2012 4:17 p.m.

    @LDS Liberal - so let me be clear. Yes, I am a Republican and we are the only ones empowered to remove Hatch and replace him on our Republican ballot with a replacement Republican candidate. I wish you well in your Democrat caucus on March 13th at 7:00 p.m. also. I would be grateful if a candidate of sufficient stature on the Democrat side could make a competitive race out of it. But since Democrats have no influence on whether or not Hatch gets on the ballot this November, my remarks in my initial post were addressed only to those who can, if they will, by attending their Republican caucuses.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    March 8, 2012 3:48 p.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" why are you so angry and bitter? If you are a typical liberal, I would hate to be one. Your constant cutting remarks, the anger, and bitterness that you display in your posts show us why liberals have a hard time in Utah. Utah is a happy place, not a bitter and angry place, maybe that is why Republicans win so often. They are not angry and bitter.

    If the Democrats want to win Hatch's seat, then why don't they find somebody who reflects Utah's values better than Hatch does? It can't be that hard, unless the Democrats are like you, angry, and bitter towards anybody and anything that does not agree with them.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 8, 2012 2:58 p.m.

    Kamas, UT
    1:23 p.m. March 8, 2012

    Happy Caucus Night March 15th at 7:00 p.m. to one and all!


    Ah, ummmm. Not quite.
    Caucuses are also being held on the 13th [per the LDS churchÂs letter read over the pulpit].

    You must be a Republican,
    So I can safely blame YOU for voting for Hatch each and every time for the last 36 years.

    BTW - Yes, I think you are radical, and extreme.

  • goatesnotes Kamas, UT
    March 8, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    @ T. Party -

    Utahns must unite at the neighborhood caucus meetings to validate who their nominees as state delegates are supporting - if they don't get a declarative answer their delegate will NOT support Hatch, then find someone at your caucus meeting who will make that absolute guarantee they will NOT vote for Hatch.

    Happy Caucus Night March 15th at 7:00 p.m. to one and all!

    Let's do something great for Utah - let's break all attendance records and send delegates to the nominating convention who have the will of the people in their sails to retire Orrin Hatch.

    We're not radicals, we're not extremists, we're not anything but weary - weary of a politician who after 36 years and six terms simply cannot step aside gracefully.

    The seniority argument now works against Hatch. At 78 years of age on election day, he qualifies for seniority and retirement.

    Liljenquist, on the other hand is exactly who Hatch was (remember when?) - a young, eager, bona fide conservative upstart. I invite others to support him as I will be doing on caucus night.

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    March 8, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    Huntsville, UT

    I would not worry about it, I seriously doubt I can find a republican with integrity. I am starting to wonder if they even have a heart.
    this is one of those devil you know arguments.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    March 8, 2012 11:35 a.m.


    Why does Hatch's replacement have to be a Republican? We used to elect Democrats and/or Republicans to office, we can do it again.

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    March 8, 2012 10:17 a.m.

    Salt Lake City, UT
    I do not particularly like Hatch. I just do not see the need to send someone else; unless they can show they will have integrity, and will not become just another political senator.
    I have not found such a person myself, I will look into Pete Ashdown and see if he is such a man, if he is, I will vote for him.

  • Curmudgeon Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2012 9:03 a.m.

    VIDAR: Exactly what has Hatch done for Utah in the last 36 years? And what advantage would it be to Utah if he were re-elected? He would only perpetuate Utah's reputation as the laughing stock of the nation.
    You are right that the replacements the Republicans are offering are possibly worse than Hatch. But there is an alternative who does not carry any of the baggage you describe. His name is Pete Ashdown.

  • T. Party Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 8, 2012 8:44 a.m.

    Senators who don't have the good sense to retire after 36 years may need a gentle nudge from convention delegates.

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    March 8, 2012 8:32 a.m.

    Hatch should only be replaced if there is a better person to replace him.
    We cannot send anyone who has worked in our Utah Legislator. This seems to be all that is being offered by the Republican Party.
    I think Utah legislators have shown; that they cannot be trusted to be sent to Washington; they have not passed ethics law, and ban on gifts, last year they tried to eliminate GRAMMA disclosure. They make what should be public meetings; private by calling them planning sessions. If you they cannot behave ethically, and honest, in a small state legislator, how can they be trusted and sent to Washington; where the money is bigger, and temptation is more.
    The last time we eliminated a long term Utah senator; we got Mike Lee; the architect of superpacs.
    I think we vote for who can do the most for Utah; the senate assignments are based upon seniority, a small state cannot afford to send a new senator every six years until there is nationwide term limits.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    March 8, 2012 7:36 a.m.

    "What do you call a Senator whose been in Washington 18 years? You call him home."

    -- Orrin Hatch, campaign against Senator Frank Moss

    Well, Sen. Hatch, it's time for you to come home (to PA). You've been in Washington too long already.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 8, 2012 7:10 a.m.

    Good one! It is time to bring new faces and perspectives to the Senate. America will be just fine.

  • Curmudgeon Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2012 6:50 a.m.

    Bruce Lindsay is "retiring" because he was called as a mission president. Too bad Hatch won't listen to a "call" from the people. Maybe a call form the Church would help. Mongolia comes to mind.