LDS Church among 18 churches added to Hungarian recognition list

Missionaries permitted to proselyte since 1986 without recognition

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  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 29, 2012 5:53 a.m.

    Re: LValfre
    "Did you google it and read the original documents? Nevermind non-LDS literature....."

    If I wanted to know about the Catholic Church I would read their literature and not that of an apostate group with an axe to grind.

    There are those who believe everything they Google must be 100% accurate but most of us know better.

  • Serenity Manti, UT
    Feb. 28, 2012 11:14 p.m.

    L Valfre don't you think the rest of us here in America have Googled the LDS Church? Yet, we can pick out the garbage from the truth. The people in the early Church were not perfect, in fact, many were confused or malicious in their attacks on the Church yet the Church survived. Silly remarks such as you have made cannot, no - they will not change the testimonies of the Hungarian saints. What makes you think that the educated ones did not join the Church? Do you think Hungarians are a backwards, illiterate society? I sincerely beg to differ. I have a college education and I was born in Hungary. Yet, I am a Mormon. I joined the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS in 1970. Please don't insult us with your uneducated remarks.

    It is so wonderful to hear about Hungary. God does His work in His own time and it's just perfect.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 28, 2012 8:02 p.m.


    Have you read the Book of Mormon? Do you know what the Joseph Smith Papers project is?

    In my experience, the LDS Church has shown a firm commitment to the highest standards in all it's archival work, record keeping, and so on. In my experience, no credible claims have ever been made against the truthfulness of the LDS Church or it's teachings. While I've seen many crafty speculations, I've never found anything that could not be explained rationally.

    We all have our own lives, our own experiences, and our own knowledge of the events in our lives. No matter how much googling one can do and no matter how skilled and intelligent debate may exist around my experiences- they belong only to me. Nothing can negate what I've experienced. Nothing can negate Joseph Smith's claim. You can either disbelieve it, or experience the same thing for yourself. But saying that other people are wrong is unreasonable.

    There is a difference between saying 'you are wrong' and 'I am right'. Someone claiming they have the truth can possibly be telling the truth. While saying 'you are wrong' supposes more than your own experiences. "I saw this. I know this" is subjective. "You didn't. You are wrong." is making an objective claim about the subjective and is logically fallacious.

  • midwestreader Brighton, MI
    Feb. 28, 2012 6:26 p.m.

    Hungary is trying very hard to become a open society after decades of Soviet oppression. An open attitude toward faith is a very good start and will bring in all sorts of aid to their population. Yes, I have Googled and read a lot about their history and politics. In my career as an educator, I have a interest in knowing all of the facts. I find it doubtful that there are really any real certifiable experts that have read this article. People may claim to be, but in my experience, I have found very few experts in any field.

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    Feb. 28, 2012 4:51 p.m.


    Did you google it and read the original documents? Nevermind non-LDS literature but the real books from the beginning and compared them to the current?

    I doubt it.

  • midwestreader Brighton, MI
    Feb. 28, 2012 4:43 p.m.

    Great news when the LDS Church gets any sort of recognition. Living in a place where we are the minority makes it even more understandable of any type of encouragement. The cynical comments from Chicago are not that cute. The LDS church does not force itself on any one.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 28, 2012 2:34 p.m.

    Re: LValfre 1:06 p.m. Feb. 28, 2012

    "Formal recognition gives churches tax-free status, qualifies them for government support and allows them to collect donations during services and do pastoral work in jails and hospitals,"

    The LDS Church continues to grow around the world. This is great news for the saints in Hungary.

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    Feb. 28, 2012 1:31 p.m.

    Get a hold of it and start googling it.

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    Feb. 28, 2012 1:06 p.m.

    It won't last there very long ... not once the educated get a hold of it.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 28, 2012 12:54 p.m.

    This a wonderful display from the Hungarian government. I hope eventually all governments will eventually understand that the LDS Church is certainly a worldwide ally in the cause for peace, helping those in need, and all other forms of helping our fellow human beings.