Cougars still in West Coast Conference title chase

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  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 1:56 p.m.

    @ Mildred in Fillmore | 11:03 a.m. Feb. 20, 2012
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Come on Mildred. We all know that there were some questionable calls during some games during the year but I don't think the refs really have it out for anyone. If we play well against the Zags, we'll have a chance.

    Good luck Cougars.

  • lasermann Orem, UT
    Feb. 21, 2012 10:25 a.m.

    So Cal Reader,

    Mildred in Fillmore isn't a Cougar Fan. She's a bitter Utah fan that posts an over-the-top, pseudo BYU sarcastic post for almost every article. I can't really blame her for pretending to be pro-BYU though ... anything to avoid being associated with the train wreck that is Utah basketball these days.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Feb. 21, 2012 10:00 a.m.

    RE: Mildred in Fillmore, Salt Lake City, UT- "We will win the conference championship unless the referees take it from us."

    Typical Cougs fan comment from within. Always the refs part. Sorry Cougs fans. I'm one of you, but from afar. It is simply amazing to watch a home game and hear the loud cascade of boos not just on various fouls. The fans react to every, single foul in this manner. Remember these are nationally televised games (nice showing during the St. Mary's game). Such a reaction doesn't play too well. So, how about instead of the above response, we look at this as "we will win the conference championship if we play the games of the year as a team."

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Feb. 21, 2012 9:52 a.m.

    For the first year in a new conference, the Cougs can't ask for more than this-- being in contention for the League Championship entering the last two games of the season. If they win the last two games (Zags & Portland) and St. Mary's loses Sat against San Francisco, we win the conf and, I believe, a sure ticket to the dance. If they don't win take the league, they'll then need to win the conf. tournament to punch their ticket.

    Regarding their game against the Zags, that will need to be THE game of the year for them. They will need to play consistent as a team. Not good for Hartsock and Carlino to be hurting entering the biggest game of the year. Of all games, this will be one that Abouo will need to represent, avoid fouls problems, and be a real big asset to Davies. I hope the Cougs can take this, but the Zags will be VERY difficult to beat at home.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 20, 2012 7:13 p.m.

    Who would have thought we could lose the National Player of the Year, the all-time steals leader, a starter to a mission and two very good players to injury (Collinsworth and Rogers) and build a team around nine Freshmen and still compete for the WCC championship and an invitation to the Big Dance. What a year it's been. Congrats Cougs!

  • bonemovies Cedar City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2012 4:51 p.m.

    The Zags will be more than ready for the cougs come Thursday. BYU will have to play very good at all levels if they expect to win. Even then it will be a close contest. That said, the Cougars do match up extremely well against Gonzaga.

  • Oregonian Sherwood, OR
    Feb. 20, 2012 2:01 p.m.


    The PAC12 did it last year too when BYU played Oregon State. The day before group tickets (buying 100+ or more) went on sale, they removed the offer and then jacked up the price of tickets for the game. It cost 50% more to see BYU play than it did to see Arizona, UCLA, and Stanford. BYU brings in fans so why not charge more?

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 20, 2012 11:52 a.m.


    It's a common practice for teams to increase ticket prices for big games. BYU does it for Utah and visa versa in football and basketball. WCC teams do it for Gonzaga and sometimes Saint Mary's.

    Consider it a sign of respect that every WCC opponent charges more for tickets when they're playing BYU.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2012 11:03 a.m.

    We will win the conference championship unless the referees take it from us.

  • coloradoblue Grand Junction, CO
    Feb. 20, 2012 10:58 a.m.

    Does it bother anybody else that the WCC is price gouging the cougar faithful? It seems to me that there should be a moratorium on this behavior and there should be a public apology to the BYU fans by the entire conference.

  • arod Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2012 10:28 a.m.

    The only way St. Mary's does not finish at least 13-3 and therefore tied for first place in the final WCC standings is if they lose Thursday at Portland---not likely to happen. So even if BYU wins its last 2 games including at Gonzaga, then it will only finish tied for first place at 13-3 and be a 2nd seed (since they lost twice to St. Mary's). As a 2nd seed they would have a bye Friday March 2, and begin the WCC tournament in Las Vegas on Saturday March 3. Were BYU to lose to Gonzaga Thursday night, they only play an extra Friday game the following week (the difference between being a 2 compared to a 3 or 4 seed). Personally, if Hartsock's knee needs time to heal--it sure looked ugly on TV Saturday---I would prefer he take this week off and be as ready as possible March 2 and beyond. Those games are even bigger than Thur. at Gonzaga.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 20, 2012 10:17 a.m.

    I think Carlino will be able to play. But if Hartsock is out we're in big trouble. The way he turned his knee, it could be an ACL. An MRI today should show that.
    Our bigs get too many fouls for Davies and Austin to carry the weight, and Sharp just doesn't have it.

    Most people don't recover from the type of injury that Collinsworth has. I would like to see his scholarship released so we can give it to another Big out of a Junior College or something. Right now it is just a wasted scholarship, and we need some depth at the 4 and 5.

  • arod Ogden, UT
    Feb. 20, 2012 10:06 a.m.

    Does anyone know the WCC tourney tie breaker rules for seeding? It is very likely there will be several ties in the final standings---especially at #3 and #4. BYU can only finish 2,3,or 4 in the WCC because St. Mary's has the tie breaker with BYU. So, only if BYU wins at Gonzaga can they finish #2--otherwise they finish 12-4 in a third place tie with LMU. Since BYU split the season series with LMU, who goes in #3 and who is #4? The answer determines whether BYU plays San Francisco (lock on 5 seed) or San Diego (lock on 6 seed) opening night Friday March 2 in Las Vegas. Then Saturday, BYU could advance to play SMU or Gonzaga. That would depend on whether BYU was a 3 or 4. Further, if St. Mary's and Gonzaga both finish 13-3, then what is the tie breaker to determine 1st and 2nd seeds (since both split the regular season match up)?

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Feb. 20, 2012 9:49 a.m.

    Without Hartsock and Carllino, we're doomed. Weird how all our big guys are injured. We won't be able to anywhere without the bigs, and Carlino's ability to drive and score will be very tough to replace.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Feb. 20, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    What is with all the injuries? Hope Noah is able to play against the Zags or we're sunk.