Wall Street Journal writer discusses Mormon welfare system

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  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 19, 2012 7:35 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin,

    Great comment. The reason why government hasn't learned how.. isn't government. It's the people. People say "I want help" but refuse to help themselves. Many people don't even need welfare but have just learned poor habits that they neglect to address.

    I've heard people talk about how poor they are, how much they struggle, they never have time, etc- and 5 minutes later they talk about how they went to Five Guys and Arby's and Subway and how much time they spend watching T.V., that they need to watch less, etc.

    We all know how to save. It's a very simple forumula, called... not spending it. There are indeed many who need welfare and this is certainly a reality. The Church basically expects you to join the helping case and stand on your own two feet. The government doesn't expect those two things because the people don't want it to work that way. People are losing the basic beliefs this country needs to survive, even as basic as hard work. I know a lot of people who tell themselves they work hard every day who are very lazy people, who complain when asked to lift a finger (even on a day off after a week of vacation), and so on.

    I'm not saying we're a horrible people, just losing sight of what's right and what makes sense. Again, imo.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Feb. 19, 2012 1:02 p.m.

    The church welfare system has the two things any successful welfare system needs: Immediate assistance, and a long-term solution. In the old "give a man a fish or teach a man to fish" analogy, the LDS Church does both...it gives him a fish to address the immediate hunger, then teaches him to fish for himself.

    I'm not sure why our government can't figure out this simple formula. They are good at giving fish, but poor at teaching how to fish.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 19, 2012 10:43 a.m.

    Star Bright...

    I HATE this new register garbage we see through Facebook and the News. I don't register for something unless I have to, otherwise I get more junk email, more advertisements in my life, more of everything but doing what I want to be doing online- being productive.

    I just wanted to say, I like your comment! Googling avoids this problem! lol

    Regarding the article-

    The LDS welfare system being "the kind of safety net that government can never hope to create"- is a spot on comparison. It isn't to diminish the government and say 'the world sucks' as some people tend to think we view it. Too many think it's about 'being better then others'. It's really about 'bettering ourselves' or 'being better than we are now'. There is always room for improvement and we should all strive to be better in everything we do. People shouldn't think 'they think they are better' but would profit from this by thinking AND ACTING on the mentality of "wow, they are doing it much more effectively and efficiently; I should change to that system and add what I can to it".

    The entire doctrines of the church are about building others up. Helping people come into a system of helping each other and others. People often view religion with a 'trying to blind men' attitude and rarely see that in our case that isn't the case. As much as I like these articles, I wish that one of these times someone would write about how our doctrines are more 'real world helping people' than people often might think.

    Either way, great article.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Feb. 19, 2012 8:22 a.m.

    I doubt the LDS church would have the resources to help every single person in need in this state if there wasn't welfare in place.

  • Star Bright Salt Lake City, Ut
    Feb. 19, 2012 8:06 a.m.

    It's agreat article and if you google it you can read it without registering.