Utah Utes basketball: Utah just another opponent for Carlon Brown

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    Feb. 21, 2012 6:37 a.m.

    "utah does not have a single player of the caliber of Tyler Haws "

    Umm, you're killin me here, man. Jordan Loveridge is widely considered one of the best players in the West. Glen Dean and Aaron Dotson were both dominant high school players in Seattle (saying King County, WA is a bigger basketball scene than Utah County would be the understatement of the century).

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 19, 2012 10:47 p.m.


    "Utah has a few guys coming in that were much more star-power type guys and have the potential to be big playmakers"


    Please stg, you are absolutely killing me here. utah does not have a single player of the caliber of Tyler Haws "coming in". Nor do they have anyone that has even the slightest inkling of "star power".

    Delusional utah "fans" are absolutely my favorite pastime to read comments from.


  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 18, 2012 7:02 a.m.

    This is a rebuilding year for the Y... and a shaky one at that with Collinsworth and Rogers going out early with injuries...hardly compares to the final gasps of a ship that just slipped beneath the waves bow first ans hasn't pancaked on the bottom yet.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 18, 2012 6:54 a.m.

    Hill walking on water because of utah football??? I guess if you're looking at a mirage it would be possible to think that. Or you could go the other option... but then you might want to consider that the ice is a little thin for even him to be out on. One way or the other the illusion will vanish and fade away.

    Feb. 18, 2012 1:27 a.m.

    CFIT, I'm glad for you for the stability that you have in the future, because that is important, all of those guys seem like solid potential college role players. But they don't seem to be potential college stars. Utah has a few guys coming in that were much more star-power type guys and have the potential to be big playmakers. How any of these guys between the two schools will turn out is yet to be seen, however, so we'll have to wait. Either way, you're better than us this year, so congratulations and good luck. We'll see about next year.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Feb. 18, 2012 12:49 a.m.


    Unless you're on the NCAA tournament selection committee, you don't have a clue whether BYU will be invited as an at-large team so quit spouting your clueless opinions.

    Utah fans have been in denial for years that vast improvement was just around the corner. It's been 7 years since sweaterman left, yet the only light at the end of the tunnel is the smoldering trainwreck that was once a pretty good basketball program.

    BYU is 181-51 during the Dave Rose era with 7 consecutive 20+ win seasons.
    Utah is 100-114 during the same time period with only one 20+ win season and five losing seasons.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 17, 2012 9:50 p.m.


    Have you followed the cougs basketball team this year? They have 3rd place locked up in the WCC and they are still on the bubble of the NCAA tournament. At this point, they will have to win their conference tournament to make it. You're not as much of a powerhouse that you think you are.

    How about you concentrate on how the cougs are going to win it all "next year" and let us worry about how many wins the Utes will have.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 17, 2012 8:27 p.m.

    @MLH "You BYU guys will probably have another year or so to give us the "dog" but it's going to be a blast when we finally come around and win a game against you guys."

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's going to be more than a year or so before U beat the Y at BB. 10 wins would be a good year for you next year, and .500 the following year would show good progress for U. If you set your sites higher, you will be disappointed.

    Not sure if you've been following the Y, but four Freshman are making a major impact this year. Tyler Haws is back next year. K. Collinsworth is back the following year. Both were impact players before they went on their missions. There's a chance we get C. Collinsworth back. Jordan Chatman, Isaac Neilson, TJ Haws and Nick Emery are names for the future. Cougars will be a 25 win team for the foreseebal future, and there is not a loss to U in site.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 17, 2012 3:39 p.m.

    At the time Brown left, I was pretty upset that he made that decision but learning more about Boylen and the direction of the program Brown made the best decision for him.

    It is crazy to think how fast the program dropped off after winning a conference championship.

    Looking forward, I do believe that the new coaching staff has this team headed in the right direction. They seem to be able to actually teach the players and help them improve but they seem to be better recruiters too.

    I hope they can continue to turn this program around.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 17, 2012 3:11 p.m.


    The funny thing is that football has only been a bit above average. Yes two great seasons that every utah alum and fan should be proud of, but aside from those two years they have been only slightly better than average. Very few conference titles, actually only in those 2 undefeated years, some really bad losses on occasion, and very few double digit win seasons. I suppose the pac12 invite helps cover some of the reality of it as that was also a euphoric moment for utah fans but any close look at the record will show a pretty average team.

    At the same time utah has had only sporadic success with the rest of their sports, so I really do wonder why there is so much chris hill love. My guess is because utah's football has become reliably competitive, something they were not for a very long time, and ute fans suffered during all that time because of how bad they were and how good BYU was.

    Sometimes it would appear that even moderate success, in place of no success, can carry a guy a long way.

    It is a shame about the BBall program though.

    Feb. 17, 2012 11:05 a.m.


    I hate to say it but you are right. As a long time Ute, Dr Hill should take all the blame for this fiasco. What a shame that our program has come to this. With Coach Kry and Tommy up there things will change, it may take some time (two years) but atleast it will turn around. You BYU guys will probably have another year or so to give us the "dog" but it's going to be a blast when we finally come around and win a game against you guys.

    Anywhere else this guy would have lost a job (Hill). But apparently because of football the guy walks on water. Utah fans don't get me wrong he has done a lot for our athletic program but to see the decisions he's made with BB to go from a once top 15 program to now in the 300's-WOW. This Brown kid was a good one, but he had to get out of a sinking ship which what our program had become.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 17, 2012 9:12 a.m.


    The fact he transferred to a program just as bad really says something about the utah program.

  • Utahman4ever FORT HUACHUCA, AZ
    Feb. 17, 2012 8:58 a.m.

    What Brown said indicates that Boylen needed to go earlier than he did. When comments are made about having to be in the locker room, film sessions and practice to know what the players felt and endured you know it could not have been pretty. What a shame. I hope this can be fixed.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 17, 2012 8:18 a.m.

    Brown said he transferred to a place he could win. At that time Colorado was as bad or worse than Utah.