Jamaal Tinsley shines, but injury-plagued Jazz can't keep up with Warriors in 119-101 loss

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  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:56 p.m.

    The "power pups" are waiting in the wings. Jefferson and Harris are definitely dead wood. Maybe, Tinsley should be givew more opoortunity to see what he has to offer.

  • tomo keystone heights, fl.
    Feb. 3, 2012 2:55 p.m.

    what about Ray Allen/Rondo/Wilcox for AJ/Harris and a pick?

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 10:45 a.m.

    With Tinsley playing the way he did, and Earl playing the way he is, it ought to make things interesting at the point guard position. I looked around at possible point guards that the Jazz could realistically get if they made a trade. Here is what I found:

    Jarrett Jack
    Gary Neal
    Kyle Lowry
    Mo Williams
    Mike Conley
    Goran Dragic
    Shannon Brown

    I like Jarrett Jack's game a lot, and I Gary Neal is a great shooter. I would really like a pass first point guard. I hate to go after Harris, I just don't think he fits our system. I think the Jazz should bring him off the bench as a scorer, rather than the starting point guard. We will see what happens.

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 10:02 a.m.

    After watching Tinsley play my though is start him. I like Earl, but he really is better running the second team. The Jazz bench is more athletic and better suited to a run and gun style game that Watson is very effective at running. Tinsley is more of an old school half court PG, which fits much better into the games of guys like Big Al, Millsap and Hayward. Let Harris sit on the end of the bench. That's all his play deserves.....

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    It was good to see a true point guard running the offense with the starters. I hope we see alot more of Tinsley.

    The second unit really struggled without Earl Watson. We really need him back to lead the "youngins" They were kind of lost without their leader last night.

    Milsap and Jefferson seemed to tired to box out last night. Maybe more of Kanter could help on these kind of nights when the starters are slacking? He is a beast boxing out and pulling rebounds off the glass.

  • Dustin Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 3, 2012 9:27 a.m.

    Talking about trading Jefferson is not a good idea. He may be the most dominant post player in the league. I have also seen him improving on defense and passing the ball. He would have a lot more assists each game if our guys would make their jumpers.

    In one game, Tinsley played almost as many minutes as he played all season. By the end of the third quarter, he was exhausted and was no longer effective on defense. Everyone was tired, and it really took its toll. This is probably the hardest duo of guards to defend in the NBA, and they showed it. I am getting a little nervous that we have lost 4 of our last 5 games.

    If we are to trade Harris, it had better be a really good deal. I say that because as poorly as he plays, we are still a pretty good team with good chemistry. We risk disrupting that with a trade. I say keep Harris and let our young team develop. Save the trade drama for the off season.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 9:16 a.m.

    @ Old Timer

    Your comment about CJ is right on. He is inconsistant. This loss needs to be forgotten about. The Lakers roll in tomorrow and we don't want to lose to them at home again. Go Jazz. Beat L.A.

  • Nevada fan Washoe Valley, NV
    Feb. 3, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    Hold on everyone the Clippers were blown out too! I believe both teams played there guts out the night before and where just spent from last night. I agree Tinsley deserves PT. We also need some or a good outside shooter (there just isn't any 3pt shooters or any pick and pop). Also I listen to the TNT Analysts and Charles said that this team has a bright future (that's getting old), and Shaq says that the Jazz will be "will be dangerous in the West". I really didn't think that this team would be where it is right now, and now that the road games start well we will see.

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    Feb. 3, 2012 9:00 a.m.

    This was merely a loss by a young team that had played 2 intense effort filled games the previous 3 days (Port & Clips). Nothing to get super negative about however. C.J. merely showed what he is quite frankly-"inconsistent" and Jefferson once again showed lack of rebounding and defense for minutes played. Our perimeter defense will have to improve this year or we will never be a serious contender in the future. Bounce back men and forget all of this negative media crap about playing on the road, afterall the basket is the same ht, the floor the same dimensions everywhere and the kind of money you guys make you shouldn't have to have a crowd to inspire you. In fact when I played I liked the challenge of beating someone at their place. Good luck.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 8:40 a.m.

    Tinsley reminded us of how a pure point guard passes the ball. Congrats Jamaal, you played well. I am happy for him.

  • redcliffs Ivins, Utah
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:46 a.m.

    The Jazz towards the end of this game ran out of gas. The Jazz and Clippers played the most intense game I've this this year the night before, both traveled to California and played a back to back, and the Clippers got beat at home by Denver while the Jazz were losing on the road to the Warriors. I think that Clipper game really took a lot out of both teams and neither could play with the same intensity last night. Hopefully the Jazz can get more rested for the Laker game on Saturday.

    Tinsley looked good, but that goes to show how weak we are at the point guard. We're not getting strong point guard play this year so I could probably play the point for the Jazz and seem like an upgrade. We need to go out and use our Memo exception and make some kind of trade for a big time point guard that will make this team a legitimate playoff contender.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:44 a.m.

    I know it's not much of an excuse, but the Jazz big's looked exhausted throughout the game. I'm not sure why Corbin left that group on the floor for so long. If any of our players got the green light that David Lee has, or even Al Jefferson, they would score bunches. Jefferson, Millsap, and C J looked like they would have rather sat the game out. All three of them were bent over pulling on their shorts throughout the final half. I thought the winners tonight were Hayward, and Tinsley, and maybe even Burks. Favors did nothing when he was in, looking as flat footed as the rest. Kanter played well again! Remember this kid broke Dirk Nowitzki's Nike Hoop Summit records in scoring. He has a very fine 15 ft jumper, and soft hands. I would rather see them use him as a starter with Millsap. Paul is far less effective when Jefferson demands the ball. Kanter also covers AJ's defensive problems. Play Jefferson and Favors together.

    I think last nights play will guarantee the contract of Tinsley, (they have until the 10th)and may even heighten the trade possibilities of Harris. How about a AJ,Harris trade, for an established point guard, and a shooter.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:00 a.m.

    Call me crazy but start this guy. He ran the offense well, and we have not seen passes like that in a while. Use Earl and Jamaal, and then bring Devin off the bench for 20 mins a game. Great job Jamaal. He was the only bright spot though, we need to crash the boards.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 3, 2012 1:03 a.m.

    this is where the playoff dreams start to shatter for us...i hope they could pull it together...i still think we are a better team than that...maybe trade harris for Dragic plus a pick?

  • knightrider Sportstown, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 12:55 a.m.

    Dare I say we should trade CJ and Harris for a decent shooter and keep Tinsley and Watson for our point guards? You never see the kind of passing that Tinsley did tonight when Harris is in the game. I was impressed.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Feb. 2, 2012 11:26 p.m.

    Jody, I think your the best you know that. However, how long the Media for this paper continues to ignore the 3 point Shooting Defense, we will always have this conversation. Tonight badly outscored on "3s" again. Tinsley played his heart out. He has shown great attitude and perserverance through these tough times for him. A former decent starter going to D league and then 12th man. If everybody tonight showed the same heart. He of course cannot stay on Ellis or Curry chest because would blow by him. Still he and Gordon and Josh were the only ones worth discussing. You are dismissing too easily the fact GS had hardly been beating ANYONE. The Jazz were outhustled and outworked tonight. We were beaten on the Offensive Boards. Ty combinations tonight very questionable. CJ was on the Court, and effective GORDON RESTING, the game went from 75-75 to 18-2 RUN AND 93-77 Lead.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    Feb. 2, 2012 11:22 p.m.

    Yes, Tinsley played very well -- 13 assists! How long since we've seen a Jazz point guard do that??!!! Jazz should definitely keep him.

    And yes, the Warrior super guards destroyed the Jazz, but . . . I want to comment on the rebounding: Warriors got 22 OFFENSIVE rebounds . . . 22! Forty-seven altogether, so almost half were off their own boards! Where were our bigs?? I will just note that Al got 6 rebounds -- total -- in 32 minutes, while Kanter pulled down 5 in half that time . . . . Come on, Al -- block out and jump, for crying out loud!