Video: BYU, Utah football recruiting special, part 1

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  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 11:35 p.m.

    The NFL isn't going to back off of byu linemen because they're 25, the NFL is backing off because they aren't good enough for the NFL. Coach em' up and they'll make it in the NFL. It's that simple.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 10:50 p.m.

    8 years ago byu wasn't winning every recruiting battle. When Mac showed up he evened it up.

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 3:02 p.m.

    See my comments on "CBS Sports sizes up Y recruiting" Because I'm to lazy to repost.

  • 4D Draper, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    sorry StGtoSLCI, that was not intended for you. TizTheSeason I agree that there are diamond in the rough types of recruits. Eric Weddle and Sean Smith were those type of recruits for Utah. Additionally, there were recruits like Ben Olsen and Jake Heaps that didn't live up to the stars. These types of cases are more of a rarity. But my main point is that recruiting does matter. The past five national champions had pretty legit recruiting classes the year they won the title. Alabama # 1 in 2011, Auburn # 4 in 2010, Alabama # 1 in 2009, Florida # 3 2008, Lsu # 4 2007, and Florida # 2 in 2006. TizTheSeason try telling Auburn, Alabama, Florida, and Lsu star ratings really don't mean squat.

  • GCTexas Kingwood, TX
    Jan. 27, 2012 1:19 p.m.

    When did Moby become a college football expert?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 27, 2012 1:09 p.m.

    VegasUte @ 12:41 p.m.:

    Haha! Very funny! Very, very funny!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 27, 2012 12:46 p.m.

    Nice job Tom!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 27, 2012 12:41 p.m.

    Top 10 signs your program is going "down hill":

    Honorable mentions:


    10- The best keepsake you have is a closet full of t-shirts with unfulfilled catch phrases
    9- Robert Anae is the only coach you have that anyone nationally cares about - woops, he was let go by Bronco
    8- Your sole 2008 4 star recruit now plays for Utah (ouch!)
    7- Your highest profile recruit in over a decade is now redshirting for Charlie Weiss!
    6- Your HUGE scheduling news: home and home with .... East Carolina??
    5- 10-3 record with a strength of schedule hovering at 100
    4- Dwindling players in the NFL - no Pro Bowler since ..... when?? (3 Utes this year!)
    3- November schedule, or lack thereof (as many âbyesâ as actual games)
    2- BADLY losing in state recruiting to bitterest of rivals
    1- ESPN thinks your coach's name is Roscoe!!

    Great to be a Ute!!

    Jan. 27, 2012 12:37 p.m.

    Isn't this fun????

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 27, 2012 12:35 p.m.


    "still wish utah could have pulled troy hinds though."

    Oh we still will - just ask Jake Murphy how that works!!

    Go Utes!

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 11:33 a.m.


    Same thing Utah fans said back then hahaha

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 27, 2012 10:31 a.m.

    It's funny to listen to BYU fans today. Years ago when BYU's recruiting was better than Utah's, all we heard about was how many stars so-and-so had, the average star rating for the class, etc. Even when Jake Heaps walked into Iggy's and walked out with a BYU hat, the DN boards were positively giddy with Y fans letting us all know that Heaps was a five-star QB.

    Now that Utah is cleaning up in recruiting - especially compared to BYU - what are the BYU fans saying? "The star ratings really don't mean squat."

    As the Church Lady used to say, how conveeeeeenient.

  • BoiseSuperBlue Mars University, Mars
    Jan. 27, 2012 9:43 a.m.

    If this year's recruiting class is any indication of how BYU will fare as an independent, BYU should immediately beg Craig Thompson for membership in the MWC.

    Jan. 27, 2012 9:33 a.m.

    ablackett23, if you count 247Sports as well, the total becomes 8.

  • TizTheSeason Lehi, Utah
    Jan. 27, 2012 9:20 a.m.

    The star ratings really don't mean squat. There have been too many 'big' stars fall and then a lot of 'little' stars that have risen beyond expectations. It just depends on who the prognosticators like and how far they want to elevate them. How many times have we heard Bronco (bYu), Kyle (UofU) and even Gary (USU) say time and again that the star rankings are totally meaningless when it comes to D1 ball.

    Those that really know the game and what is required to succeed in D1 will never waste their time placing stars and ratings on HS kids. Either they have "it" or they don't. College ball is a great equalizer.

  • ablackett23 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 9:02 a.m.

    @SPgoofyft Utah's class probably is the greatest recruiting class ever from the State (on paper). We all know you really can't judge a class until years after. But, if you look through all 3 services (ESPN, Scout & Rivals), Utah actually has 7 4 star recruits & is in the mix for a few more.

    Jan. 27, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    4D you're preaching to the choir, it's SPgoofyft I think you were meaning to direct that to.

    SPgoofyft: January 24 "Rivals250 offensive lineman Brandon Fanaika committed to Stanford late last month during the Offense-Defense Bowl, surprising almost nobody in the process. It had been rumored for months leading up to the decision that Stanford was the clear-cut leader, with Utah a close second. Fanaika had previously scheduled a trip to Utah in January, and decided to honor that commitment this past weekend. Utah rolled out the red carpet for the talented guard however, and things with Stanford appear a bit murky now with only one week to go until National Signing Day."

    Hope that catches you up to speed.

  • 4D Draper, UT
    Jan. 27, 2012 12:57 a.m.

    @ StGtoSLC No team from the state of Utah has ever had five four star recruits in one recruiting class. You can verify that from all the recruiting websites. Rivals has Kelvin York, Justin Thomas, Cedrick Poutasi, Visesio Salt, and Chase Hansen as the five four star recruits. Like I said before, Utah is on the verge of signing at least two more four star recruits. Its still impressive having this amount four star recruits regardless of its rivals or scout. You have to admit if the Y had a class like this you would be pretty happy. Brandon Fanika is actually taking a recruitment trip to Utah this weekend. Tom Cella actually talked to Fanika over this past weekend. Cella was on 1280 the zone today, and Fanika told him that he was considering changing his decision.

  • SPgoofyft SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 11:19 p.m.

    @4D 5 four-star recruits? Is that what Rivals has? Scout only has 2 with 1 being a JC guy. And Fanaika is not going to Utah, that made me laugh.

    But "Utah's recruiting class is shaping to be the best recruiting class that any school from the state Utah has ever had" made me laugh even harder. Quit trying to brag before anything has happened. The state of Utah athletics has nothing to do with you.

    Jan. 26, 2012 11:04 p.m.

    Anyone know what Utah's scholarship limit is for this year? They are up to 23 commits, with, from what I've heard, at least a couple planning to grayshirt. Ofahengaue is reportedly down to deciding between Arizona and Utah. Lutui down to USC and Utah. Will Latu down to Oklahoma and Utah. I hope they land at least one if not two out of the three corners Brandon Beaver, Alphonso Marsh and and Ray Ford. Butters, BYU did get the best defensive player in the state in Hinds, but if the Utes can get Manukainiu, I think that would more than make up for it. Best case scenario, I would say we land 2 more OL, 2 CBs, a LB and a DL, which would put us at 29 total, with the possibility of 2 or 3 not affecting us this year due to grayshirts and missions. Exciting times, for sure!

  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 10:25 p.m.

    i gotta go with williary on this one. utah pulled the better in state class this year. we'll see what the future holds for these kids and how they shape up though. best of luck to all of them.

    still wish utah could have pulled troy hinds though.

  • 4D Draper, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 10:14 p.m.

    Utah's recruiting class is shaping to be the best recruiting class that any school from the state Utah has ever had. Utah all ready has commitments from five four star recruits. Furthermore, it has been reported that four star recruit Brandon Fanaika is heavily considering decommitting from Stanford to go to the Utes. Also, other four star recruits like Will Latu, Pio Vatuvei, Hiva Lutui have high interest in Utah. I was expecting a boost in recruiting from being in the Pac 12;however, I wasn't expecting recruiting to jump this dramatically. Also, there has been a lot of hype around Tenny Palepoi. Not sure what he is ranked, but I read that Utah is listed number on his list. Furthermore, watch for solid three star recruits like Polo Manukainiu, Brandon Marsh, Moana Ofahengaue, Carlos Lozano, and Raymond Ford to sign with the Utes.

  • SPgoofyft SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 9:12 p.m.

    That's quite the statement "BYU has a solid reputation lately of "pulling" scholarship offers when recruits decide they're not really considering BYU" Lindsay wasn't wavering in his commitment, he simply didn't meet certain requirements (A public forum is not the place to discuss what requirements he didn't meet).

    Did Gurney say that BYU only offered 2 of the top 14 Utah prospects? I've never heard nor said that.

    Have you looked at prior years? How does this 20% of the top players compare to other years? I'll bet you haven't even looked. Or maybe you have, it seems that you'd rather cheer against BYU first and be a "fan" of Utah 2nd. I sure hope I'm wrong

    Anyways, congrats on the stellar recruiting class (especially the Rivals site).

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 8:03 p.m.

    That's where this gets tricky. BYU has a solid reputation lately of "pulling" scholarship offers when recruits decide they're not really considering BYU. Ricky Heimuli, Harvey Langi, Manti Teo, Zack Lindsay, Moana Ofaganague, the list goes on and on.

    Here are the facts that we know.

    BYU has a very limited recruiting base. The largest base is the state of Utah. To actually believe that they were only interested in 2 of the top 14 players in their largest recruiting base, just not believable.

    The fact is that in their largest recruiting base, BYU has picked up commits from less than 20% of the top players. Not a good sign. Even if they've "pulled" schollies from kids who told them no thank you.

  • SPgoofyft SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 7:43 p.m.

    @williary A recruiting battle would indicate that both teams have offered the same recruit. While the U of U may have more of the top 10 Utah prospects, did BYU offer them as well? And I wouldn't count Zach Lindsay since his scholarship was pulled by BYU after he committed to BYU.

    But this is Utah's best recruiting class ever, congrats.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    Jan. 26, 2012 5:28 p.m.

    Mr. Gurney. A question. You said the instate battle is "about even" this year. By my calculations, between the 3 recruiting sites, there are 14 different players listed in the Utah top 10. Of those 14, Utah will get 8, BYU 2 and 4 out of state. How exactly does an 80%/20% split equal "about even?" Nice spin.