Red roundup: Alex Smith reflects on loss to Giants

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  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 25, 2012 1:59 p.m.


    Yea but smith had one good quarter in one game one time. Take that Steve Young!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Jan. 24, 2012 11:55 p.m.


    Save your comparisons for when Alex does something worth of being enshrined in the College or Pro Football Hall of Fame.

    Smith threw far fewer interceptions than Young because the majority of his passes were short, dump-off passes that were much less likely to be intercepted.

    As evidenced by the total yards passing:

    Young 7,733 yards passing
    Smith 5,203 yards passing

    That's a significant difference of more than 2,500 yards.

    Which is why, Young was voted the Nation's Best College Quarterback and finished 2nd in the Heisman Trophy voting,

    and Smith finished a distant 4th in the Heisman voting with no national awards.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 24, 2012 9:23 p.m.


    Instead of speculating about what might have been, why don't we just compare what actually was.

    The Awards speak for themselves:

    Steve Young
    Davey O'Brien Award - Nation's Best College Quarterback
    National College Hall of Fame
    Super Bowl MPV
    Pro Football Hall of Fame
    Ranked #63 on The Sporting News list of the 100 Greatest Football Players
    His #8 jersey retired by the San Francisco 49ers during a halftime ceremony against the New England Patriots on October 5, 2008 -- the 11th player in team history to receive this honor.

    Alex Smith
    No awards of any kind (sorry being a #1 draft pick isn't an award)

  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 24, 2012 9:15 p.m.

    You cougar fans are extremely entertaining, thank you for the laughs.

    First of all, this is an Alex Smith article, not a steve young article.

    Secondly, I was posting stats comparing their college careers and their accomplishments through their first six professional football careers, apples to apples since a cougar troll brought the comparison up.

    Clearly Smith had better numbers in college with 47 TD passes and only 7 interceptions in his Soph and Jr seasons before leaving school and being the first overall draft pick. Smith lost one game as a starter in college and had a higher passing rating (conveniently left off by coug trolls). Young threw for 51 touchdowns and 38 picks in his Jr and Sr seasons.

    Through their first six pro seasons, their stats are fairly even with the edge going to Smith who threw 22 more touchdowns and 12 more interceptions than young.

    The only point I was making is that it is too early to compare Smith against young's entire career.

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2012 7:16 p.m.

    Proud Ute

    You can apply the "extremely mediocre" tag to Alex Smith's NFL career, but a QB rating over 100 is considered very good, and Young had three such seasons in his first seven years in the league, and 8 of 15 such seasons during his career.

    Career Stats
    Young - Smith
    rating 96.8 - 76.4
    passing 33,124 - 12,543
    rushing 4,239 - 629
    pass TDs 232 - 68
    rush TDs 43 - 4

    Smith may yet have a decent NFL career, but his mediocre accomplishments so far, don't even merit a mention with a College AND NFL Hall of Fame Quarterback like Steve Young.

    Alex has a loooong way to go to even get close to what Young accomplished.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2012 6:51 p.m.


    I noticed you conveniently ignored QB rating in cherry-picking your stats.

    First 7 NFL Seasons
    Young - 65 games
    Smith - 70 games

    Quarterback Ratings
    Young - Smith
    Year 1 56.9 - 40.8
    Year 2 65.5 - 74.8
    Year 3 120.8 - 57.2
    Year 4 72.2 - 0.0
    Year 5 120.8 - 81.5
    Year 6 92.6 - 82.1
    Year 7 101.8 - 90.7
    Overall 84.3 - 76.4

    Young also rushed for 1,732 yards
    Alex only rushed for 629 yards

    College Careers

    Young completed 592 passes for 7,733 yards and 56 TDs, and rushed for 1,048 yards and 18 touchdowns. He was enshrined in the College Football Hall of Fame in 2001. He won the Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award, which recognizes the nation's best collegiate quarterback. Young also finished second in Heisman Trophy voting.

    Smith completed 587 passes for 5,203 yards and 57 TDs, and rushed for 1,072 yards and 15 TDs. Smith finished 4th in Heisman voting and didn't win any national awards.

    Young had 33,124 yards passing during his NFL career
    Smith only has 12,524 yards passing so far

  • Proud Ute ,
    Jan. 24, 2012 6:36 p.m.

    And then there's the trolls that never go away.

    Based on the stats provided it appears at the same stage in their careers they were both "extremely mediocre" then.
    Of course Steve Young went on to have MVP years and win Super Bowls. I was always a Steve Young fan and the reason I rooted for the 49rs even before Alex was drafted so I'm rooting for Alex to do the same and bring them back to dominance.
    Just compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Easy to look in the rear view mirror and pass judgement.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 24, 2012 8:01 a.m.

    I wonder if you utah "fans" trying to make any comparison at all between the extremely mediocre alex smith and the Great Hall of Famer Steve Young have really thought about what you are writing. Seriously. smith has done almost nothing as a pro, even this season was just ok and he was not good at all in the game on Sunday.

    Now I always hope the local kids do well, and I hope smith continues to improve, because he definately improved this season, but next time any of you decide to mock a BYU fan over any over zealous predictions about BYU or its athletes you ought to come back to that thread from last week after the 49ers beat the saints and read some of your proclomations about smiths impending greatness.


  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 24, 2012 12:09 a.m.

    Snack PAC and Redfeather,

    If you know anything about football then you will admit that there are too many variable to fairly compare players. As the wise Ernest T. Bass stated, if Steve Young had completed his career with Tampa Bay, he would not be in the Hall of Fame. They basically gave him away and drafted Bernie Kosar.

    Since Redfeather tossed out some statistics favoring Steve Young, here are a few more that favors Alex Smith:

    Steve Young, Jr and Sr seasons at BYU: 51 touchdowns 38 interceptions
    Alex Smith, Jr and Sr seasons at Utah: 47 touchdowns 7 interceptions

    Steve Young, Pro years 1 - 6: 40 touchdowns 46 interceptions
    Alex Smith, Pro years 1 - 6: 62 touchdowns 58 interceptions

    FYI, Young after 8 pro seasons at age 30: 50 touchdowns 49 interceptions.

    Alex is currently 27 years old. If the 49ers continue to get better he just might match Young's accomplishments, you never know.

    Good luck Alex! Great season!!

    Jan. 23, 2012 10:24 p.m.

    Why do the comparisons need to be made? Why does it have to be a Utah BYU thing on every stinken article? Lay it to rest for a day. If you're a 49ers fan feel good about the season, they came a long ways from where they were the past several years. If your not a 49ers fan, well your team won. To compare QB's well, it's so hard to do. You all say Smith is no Young but one thing is certain Young was no Montana. Steve Young was by far the best BYU QB, Alex Smith was the best Ute. But there are plenty of others on either side that would make that claim. It's been a great season but Baltimore vs San Francisco would have been a lot of fun to see our local boys compete in the Super Bowl.

  • Drum and Feather Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2012 9:11 p.m.

    Utah fans, why are so many of us so desperate to claim Smith to be more than he is? He has had one ok season, one really good quarter of a playoff game and then one really mediocre NFC Championship game. He hasn't done much of anything of note, certainly nothing that would warant any comparison to Steve Young, and nothing that would justify being the #1 overall pick in the NFL draft.

    It is fine to want him to do well, and it is even fine to point out whatever good things he does accomplish, but the truth is he hasn't done anything to even suggest he might ever be great and certainly not the next Steve Young.

  • agb Layton, UT
    Jan. 23, 2012 8:41 p.m.

    I have been more skeptical than most of Alex's abilities up until this year. It has already been pointed out that Smith's success has been delayed for a number of reasons. Most notably the instability in the 49ers organization at OC and HC during his career. Another thing he has been hampered by is personnel (or lack of) on the team; not only at offensive line but at the skill positions.

    Crabtree just isn't the receiver the 49ers thought he would be. There just isn't anybody on the outside that is a threat. Alex really only has Vernon Davis as a go-to guy. With only 1 viable option to throw to and a RB in Frank Gore whose production has plummeted in the last quarter of the regular season, he came within on overtime period of advancing to the Superbowl.

    He definitely has my respect as a true team player and a competitor. Best of luck in the future Alex.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 23, 2012 7:36 p.m.

    Ernest T. Bass

    "Had Young stayed in Tampa his entire career there is no Superbowl and certainly no Hall of Fame."

    Fortunately for Young, he demonstrated enough talent playing for that miserable Tampa Bay team, that the 49ers wanted Young to back up their Hall of Fame quarterback.

    Sorry, but I didn't see any such teams wanting to sign Alex.

  • redfeather Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 23, 2012 7:17 p.m.

    You can spin it however makes you feel better, but nobody can objectively argue that Alex has performed anywhere close to what is expected of an overall #1 draft pick.

    Side-by-Side Comparison of Passer Ratings
    Steve Young / Alex Smith
    Bucs(5) 56.9 / 49ers(9) 40.8
    Bucs(14) 65.5 / 49ers(16) 74.8
    49ers(8) 120.8 / 49ers(7) 57.2
    49ers(11) 72.2 / 49ers(0) 0.0
    49ers(10) 120.8 / 49ers(11) 81.5
    49ers(6) 92.6 / 49ers(11) 82.1
    49ers(11) 101.8 / 49ers(16) 90.7

    By his 7th season, Young already had three 100+ seasons. Alex barely broke 90+ in his best season.

    Oh, and in case you're wondering, Young never had a rating of less than 101.1 in the five seasons he started 15 games or more.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 23, 2012 5:19 p.m.

    Young had MUCH better talent around him. His poor numbers in Tampa Bay proves he wasn't capable of lifting an entire team. Had Young stayed in Tampa his entire career there is no Superbowl and certainly no Hall of Fame.

  • Proud Ute ,
    Jan. 23, 2012 4:43 p.m.

    If you ignore the trolls they eventually go away.
    They're not Cougar fans, just haters who either can't stand to see a Ute do well or wanting to stir the rivalry.
    Congrats on your best season ever Alex.
    It will be the Super Bowl next year.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 23, 2012 3:34 p.m.

    I have to agree that at this point in his career, Alex Smith is not as good as Steve Young was at his best - and he may never be. However, he has shown that he is not the 'bust' he was once reported to be either.

    Congrats to Mr. Smith and the 49ers for a quality season.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Jan. 23, 2012 2:49 p.m.


    "...he is still no Steve Young...".

    How many NFL QB's have a "Steve Young" resume?

    The 200 word limit is not nearly enough space to describe his accomplishments.

    Enough time?

    Steve Young did not make the Pro Bowl until he was 31.

    Alex is 28.

    Harbaugh has 4 years left on his contract.

    He wants Alex to be the QB.

    It will be interesting to see where the next four years takes the two of them.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 23, 2012 1:37 p.m.

    Smith neither won the game nor lost the game. He played well enough for the Niners to win. SF defense was exceptional. SF lost because of the two special teams plays.

    My respect for Smith has increased tremendously this year. I didn't think he would survive the new coaching regime, and he has not only survived but proven he can be the starter and a winner.

    Against the Saints, he carried the team on his back making critical play after critical play. He didn't do that against the Giants. Alex's shortcomings against the Giants came mostly on 3rd down, where he was shut down. I'm expecting the Niners to be in the same place next year (competing for the NFC crown), and hopefully a few plays will go differently and he'll lead them to the Superbowl.

    Congrats on a great year!

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 23, 2012 12:49 p.m.

    @Johnson72, it's not plain and simple at all.

    After 3 head coaches and 7 offensive coordinators, Smith finally found a good pair. Still, Smith and the Niners offense needs a training camp, something they didn't have due to the late resolution of the lockout.

    Also, Smith needs some playmakers other than just Vernon (TE) Davis and Frank Gore (RB). San Francisco has no wide receivers. Crabtree thinks he is better than he is. Josh Morgan was hurt this year. Ted Ginn Jr. is often hurt and a below average WR with speed (that's it). Then you have the failed Braylon Edwards experiment, and logic tells you Smith needs help.

    Criticizing Smith is not the answer. He can manage a game, but also can make plays. He needs more freedom in the playcalling, something Harbaugh will be more comfortable with after upgrading the offense and having a training camp with Smith. Alex has never had an offense to get familiar with in the NFL. We will see what he is made of more as time goes on.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2012 12:36 p.m.

    Plain and simple... You blew it Smith!! To bad.

  • Barney Google Beaver, UT
    Jan. 23, 2012 11:45 a.m.

    @ jarka-rus

    I disagree with your opinion about Alex Smith. I think he can develop into a great 49er QB. Alex was lacking a stable franchise with bad coaching for the last 6 years. Now that Jim Harbaugh has taken over and helped build confidence in Alex. He began to blossom this year. I'm looking forward to following Alex's career from here on out. I believe he can win a Super Bowl one day. This year was a great learning experience for him, his team mates, and his coaches. Remember Steve Young was in a similar position Alex was in when he was drafted by Tampa Bay. He had a disastrous start! Everyone wrote him off until he was traded to SF. He still sat the bench for many years while Joe Montana was winning Super Bowls. But, Steve Young finally blossomed when Montana retired which was many years after he was drafted. Don't count Alex Smith out! He has the potential to become a great 49er QB. I'm not saying he will, I'm saying he can!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 23, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    Although he did not perform as well as he did last week, Smith did play well enough to win yeaterday. Two costly mistakes by the same special teams receiver cost them the game.
    Although, as jakarus pointed out, he is no Steve Young(Smith is less mobile and less of a playmaker but has a stronger arm and was a great offensive manager this year)I think Smith will be successful for years to come. SF success will depend more on his team-mates.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Jan. 23, 2012 10:28 a.m.

    Congrats to Smith for having a breakout year under Harbaugh, but he is still no Steve Young. He made no real impact on this game, had a couple good scrambles but he still has a lot of work to do, just don't think he has enough time to become a great QB.