Utah Utes football: Brian Allen excited to be a part of Utah's future

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  • Drum and Feather Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 19, 2012 9:32 p.m.


    "If Either of these players were rated now correcly they would be very high 3 stars."

    And how do you know this?

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    Jan. 19, 2012 3:27 p.m.


    "If either of these players were rated now correcly they would be very high 3 stars."

    Based on what? What leads you to that conclusion?

  • u25 West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 19, 2012 2:54 p.m.

    Both Allens we picked up are late bloomers, the rating services make their evaluations after the junior year. Its very hard to move up after that initial rating. Late ratings are usually a generic low 3 star. If Either of these players were rated now correcly they would be very high 3 stars.

    Jan. 19, 2012 10:51 a.m.

    Was just reading some of the comments that a lot of these kids were saying after their official visits to Utah (e.g Brandon Beaver, Alphonso Marsh, etc...). A lot of them are mainly saying they really didn't know what they were expecting and they weren't really considering Utah that much, but once they got here, it struck them. They liked the food, the people, the campus, etc...
    It seems that the main reason people don't really consider Utah is that they don't really know about it that much. But, with the BCS busting and now joining the Pac 12, kids are more willing to check it out and see what a cool place it is. So, I'm chalking up the move to the Pac 12 as a good thing, since even though it's not necessarily getting these kids to commit, it IS making it so that more check us out. With our campus, coaches, and players to do the rest, this should equate to more and better recruits committing to Utah or at least putting it into their final few.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 19, 2012 9:25 a.m.

    Whittingham and his staff are getting the best recruits they can get. If you looked at all of the higher rated kids that the Utes had offered over the past year, you will see that they are going after the best. Most of these kids also had offers from many top programs in the country. They probably went to Texas, Florida and now California to get the last 4 players to commit to them because they wanted to be sure they will fill these scholarships and they did not feel like the higher rated ones would choose Utah over those other schools. These kids might not be 4 star athletes but they all sound like solid players. The NFL has a lot of players who were rated below 4 stars playing today. Stars are nice to brag about but the play on the field is what matters. Give these kids a chance.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 19, 2012 7:15 a.m.


    Utes somewhat better than Wyoming, Nevada, UTEP, North Texas, Memphis and New Mexico. Get used to it.

    Where are the 5 star guys are going?

    Somebody was tooting their horn on another story about getting a 3 star recruit and that skyrocketed the overall Ute recruiting composite ranking from #30 to #28.


  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    Jan. 19, 2012 1:57 a.m.

    I hope some of the unconvinced readers out there will be satisfied with the obvious steady improvement Utah is making concerning the football program. It's not possible to experience a vertical improvement curve without paying your dues in terms of constructing improved facilities, attracting a cadre of improved new recruits, sustaining the existing player cadre, and (with recent departures) careful selection of replacement coaching staff.

    In terms of program funding, realize as well that all the statistics shared on the various blogs indicate the U athletic program is virtually self-funding, & in fact a contributor to the University, not a sea-anchor.

    Our coaches are among the best in the business; give them the opportunity to do what they do best --- run their program.

    And when can we forget the BYU thing, & ratchet down the rhetoric --- the U and the Y are in different solar systems now. Why not cheer for both sets of athletes & all their respective programs.

    Athletics are a wonderful adjunct to the college experience. Let's welcome ALL the new recruits to the U & wish them well in all of their endeavors at the U --- both on the field & in the classroom.

    Go Utes!!!

  • Nobelpromise Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 18, 2012 9:58 p.m.

    As Utah alum I need to know how getting no star recruits to choose over Wyoming will bring more wins for program? Not what was promised for being in PAC 12 because top recruits want top schools. Being in PAC 12 means Utah should get all 5 stars as recruits and no less because of being wests top program. This is not good for Crimson Club to know and can't be getting much donations.

  • Utes#1 Sandy, UT
    Jan. 18, 2012 9:44 p.m.

    4.57 for a LB is great speed. Sly clone here folks

    Jan. 18, 2012 9:18 p.m.

    pocyUte, I agree. The first time Shaky Smithson visited Salt Lake City, he knew right away that it was the right place to move his younger brother away from Baltimore to. Nearly everyone in the country has at least some initial connotation to Utah, whether good or bad, but many fall in love and never want to leave after their first time in SLC. I believe this is one of the University's best recruiting tools and will be utilized much more going forward.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 18, 2012 8:56 p.m.

    If you look at Utah's commits for this year, you will notice that Utah is going head to head with many Pac-12 schools for their recruits, and winning

    the newest commit Reshawn Hooker (from LA) turned down 6 other Pac 12 schools including ASU, AU and UCLA

    Juco RB Kelvin York chose Utah over Miami and USC
    CB Justin Thomas chose Utah over 6 Big 12 schools including OK ST and Baylor
    OL Cedric Poutasi chose Utah over 7 other Pac 12 schools including Oregon
    WR Delshawn Mclellon committed in June with 3 offers, Utah, ASU and Idaho, again head to head with a Pac-12 foe
    QB Travis Wilson chose Utah over UCLA, Washington ASU, AU and Colorado

    I intentionally left off instate guys because I wanted to show examples of players who chose Utah without a connection to the state.

    Utah has an awful lot to offer, and the success of the coaching staff at winning and getting players into the NFL is only part of the package.

  • Hatch Sandy, UT
    Jan. 18, 2012 8:32 p.m.

    Utah is recruiting smart looking to take the cream of lower teir athletes.

    They know they have little chance getting athletes that have visited other PAC12 schools. They simply don't have the facilities that an extra 20 miilion a year buys for private schools in the PAC12 and the university of Nike (Oregon).

    I was not surprised as a U alum to get an email requesting me to call my state senator to request additional funding for U "infrustructure". Sorry I did not make the call. Not because I hate the U but because I hate the PAC12 for taking the Utah/BYU rivalry away from us and I do not want my tax dollars going toward funding the PAC12 "arms race".

    Jan. 18, 2012 8:26 p.m.

    Linebacker Reshawn Hooker also committed today. A guy that doesn't look like he has freakish speed or athleticism, but shows a really good knack for finding the ball carrier and making him pay for taking it in the first place.

    CO Ute, I'm really hopeful about landing at least one out of Ford, Marsh and Beaver, I feel like from what I've seen they could all be starters as soon as their second year, along with current commit Justin Thomas, especially with our top 3 CBs going into this year being seniors. I say best case scenario we get two of them, but more likely we get 1/3. Stoked on this class for sure, though.

  • afro14 Sandy, UT
    Jan. 18, 2012 8:18 p.m.

    @ Eddie

    Rivals.com ranks Utah's recruiting class as #28 overall. Scout.com rates it as #43 overall. If you are at all familiar with Utah football tradition you'll know that Utah has a history of taking relatively unknown players and making them into stars. (Look at the list of NFL starters who were Utes and their respective ratings coming out of high school).

    Now then, on the off chance that you are a cougar fan trolling Ute articles, allow me to state that BYU's recruiting class is rated as #51 by Scout.com and isn't even in the top 50 on rivals.com. Not a good sign, considering BYU's recent inability to develop the talent of even the most highly sought-after recruits...

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 18, 2012 5:51 p.m.


    You do the coaching staff and kids they recruit a great disservice by such a statement.

    First of all there is a lot that goes into a kid being sought after. Did they go to camps? Did they send out tons of film and advertise themselves. I frankly don't care who wants them. If our coaching staff feels that they are good enough to play for Utah, that is all I need to know.

    Most people would have thought that Utah didn't score too great with guys like Eric Weddle, Alex Smith, Brandon Burton, Derrick Shelby. But their careers at Utah showed that many people missed on them.

    As someone who follows Utah recruiting quite closely, I can tell you that there are many highly sought after recruits who have committed to Utah, and who Utah is pursuing. That's great and all, but for me, all I need is the endorsement of the coaching staff to feel good about a recruit

    Welcome to both the Allens.

    Jan. 18, 2012 5:49 p.m.

    Let's take a step back and look at the big picture. Coach Whit and Coach Scalley flew to Texas to sign the two Allen kids. Hard to believe they would go to this effort unless they felt these were solid recruits.

    Also there are a bunch of higher profile kids still considering Utah.
    Raymond Ford - has multiple Pac 12 offers plus an offer from Nebraska.
    Pio Vatuvei - verbal commit to USC but now reconsidering.
    Alphonso Marsh - offers from AZ, Boise, an UCLA
    Brandon Beaver - multiple PAC 12 offers plus Oklahoma and Nebraska.
    Darion Monroe - verbal commit to Texas A&M now reconsidering

    The U may not get any of these but they are certainly going after some big talent and are receiving strong consideration.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 18, 2012 5:39 p.m.

    "Allen is a 6-foot-3, 187-pound wide receiver who elected to commit to Utah over schools such as Wyoming, Nevada, UTEP and North Texas."

    This guy must be a true "stud". I thought that the u just attracted true "athletes".

    All the other BCS schools were after him also.........not!

    Jan. 18, 2012 5:22 p.m.

    I really like what I've seen from Brian's junior year highlight tape, and his stats this year are even better. He's very long and athletic and shows a good ability to track down balls no matter where they're placed. I know his highlights don't show the bad aspects of his game, and the fact that he wasn't recruited by any bigger schools isn't a great sign, but if he works hard and can consistently do what his highlight tape shows, I would say it's a good pickup.

  • SSmith Washington, UT
    Jan. 18, 2012 4:59 p.m.

    Wow, we actually believed the lead in to this article--that we had scored a coup on a couple of recruits. However, take a closer look at who else was recruiting them.

    I think we should be going after more highly-sought after talent.