FreedomWorks prepared to spend big money in Utah to defeat Hatch

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  • ReaganFan Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 14, 2012 8:51 a.m.

    Pretty hilarious that Armnestey is at the forefront of the effort to oust Hatch. As people get to know Armnestey better, FreedomWorks will be ran out of town with its tail between its legs.

    The worst part about all of this is that Utah remains over $200 MILLION dollars in the red even with Lilly's "reforms." If that's his record in Utah, it's frightening to imagine what this goober would do at the federal level. Mad props to Steve Forbes for not endorsing the quitter from Davis County.

  • Freedom Loving Citizen Salt Lake City, ut
    Jan. 13, 2012 6:52 p.m.

    Freedom Works has an agenda, become more powerful politically. Pouring money into Utah to "Take Out" a second Senator would make this Glen Beck Backed PAC even more influential. Even Glen Beck does not agree with Freedom Works in this venture.
    They want to gain their influence in DC at Utah's expense. They don't care about Utah we are just using us.

    The supporters of this freedom works here are David Kirkham, Tim Alders, Becky Perente, Brandon Beckams, Frank Anderson, Jackie Smith, and Kim Colemam most of whom are running for something them selves. This is less about Hatch and more about them growing in influence themselves.

  • aceroinox Farmington, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 5:42 p.m.

    @SamESmall--no need for Dan Liljenquist to "personally stop" Olympia Snowe from chairing Finance. Senator Grassley has more seniority on Finance than Senator Snowe. The only reason he would defer to her is if he wanted to chair Judiciary, where he is next in line. The word on the street is that, as the only non-attorney on the Judiciary Committee, he is reluctant to lead the Advise and Consent role in vetting new judges, so in the case of Senator Hatch losing he would opt for Finance (which has the added benefit of keeping Senator Snowe from that role).

    Re the alleged inability of freshmen senators to accomplish much, that's the same tired, old cod liver oil incumbents have been forcing down our throats from time immemorial. When there is a housecleaning, as there almost certainly will be, there are all kinds of opportunities for those with unique capabilities to step up and contribute.As a newcomer to the State Senate, Senator Liljenquist was told to sit back and watch how it's done. We all saw how that went...and thank heavens he stepped up! He's capable of the same at the federal level as well.

  • On the other hand Spanish Fork, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 3:50 p.m.

    I suppose Dick Armey knows better than any of us who can best represent Utah's interests in the Senate?

  • SamESmall Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 3:26 p.m.

    Liljenquist says after he defeats Senator Hatch he will personally stop Olympia Snowe from being given chair of the powerful Finance Committee that Orrin is currently slated to chair should the Rs obtain a majority in the Senate. Big talk Dan but the realities of life says a freshman has a vote but no clout. How will you get Senate leadership to follow you? We all know the answer to that one, THEY WON'T.

    Freedom Works is hurting for donations and is becoming more irrelevant each day. They have thrown all their hope for future fund raising on defeating Orrin. That's why they have come into Utah and are messing in our politics. Freedom Works, go back where you came from. We can make our own decisions, thank you very much!

    Orrin, keep on pressing for a balanced budget amendment. That is the only way we are going to hobble the runaway steam engine. And while you are at that, keep your promise as the Chairman of the Finance Committee to defund ObamaCare. You will be in the position to do it, not some stary eyed freshman who needs to be given directions to the mens room.

  • aceroinox Farmington, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 3:01 p.m.

    Senator Hatch's return to private life is long overdue! I just hope this unnamed candidate is not John Huntsman, Jr., after his failed attempt at the Presidential nomination! That would be an utter disaster. I hope Utah voters are not blind enough to elect him again. There are a couple of other "ringers" who come to mind, but for my money I'd like to see Dan Liljenquist in the U.S. Senate. What he's achieved here in Utah with entitlement reform, and then in other states as they've invited him in to consult is impressive. I doubt there is a better expert on the subject in the entire country. He also seems to have a knack for getting all the parties around the table and crafting a solution everyone can support. What a coup if we could have him helping Congress to do the same!

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 1:42 p.m.

    'If unions get to have a seat at the political table then businesses need one too.' - reader1234 | 1:21 p.m. Jan. 13, 2012

    You forget, the business is the one that...

    owns, the table.

    Collective barganing gave us a minimum wage. Paid time off. And health insurance.

    What did business give us...?


    Only profit, for the board.

    Want examples?

    **'Exxon profit up 53 pct, best quarter since 3Q '08' - By Chris Kahn - AP - 01/31/11

    **'BP reporting profits despite growing costs for oil spill' - By Brian Skoloff and Jane Wardell - AP - Published by DSNews - 11/02/10

    **'Chevron profit rises 36 percent on high oil prices' - AP - Published by DSNews - 04/29/11

    This does not even include:

    AIG, Enron and Goldman Sachs.

    And Hatch, has ever been a 'defender' of health insurance profit:

    **'A plan for cutting health care costs' - By Ryan P. Thorn - Published by DSNews - 12/23/11

    'A bill under consideration in the Senate co-sponsored by Hatch and Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., would repeal billions of dollars in new taxes levied on health insurers...'


    **'Health Insurers Post Record Profits' - By EMILY WALKER - ABC News - 02/12/10

  • reader1234 South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 1:21 p.m.

    People are corporations. What makes up a corporation? People. Can a corporation function without people? No. Corporations are businesses and businesses employ poeple. If unions get to have a seat at the political table then businesses need one too. I am hoping my employers are sending people to washington to defend our businesses personal intrests. I want free market capitalism to return. Stop the crony capitalism where the president gets to spend my money and decide who wins and who loses.

  • Mark Green Saint George, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    Thank you FreedomWorks! I could never work out who to elect in my own State without a bunch of outsiders showing up and spending all sorts of money for political gain. I only wish I could sell you my vote directly and avoid the political process altogether!

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 11:17 a.m.

    Dick Armey is a Social Progressive?

    Dick Armey and Glenn Beck are the freedom works faces of grass roots conservative politics.

    Neither one of these men could ever be concivted of being socially progressives; con men, of course, but never socially progressive.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 11:00 a.m.

    You have only yourself to blame for this Utah.

    In the one corner, Hatch, with this 36 years of being a 'Washinton outsider'...

    and on othe other, Freedom works. Largely owned and operated by...the Koch brothers.

    The entire time, Presidental canidate Mitt Romney claiming:

    **Mitt Romney: Corporations are friend - By Phillip Elliot - AP - Published by DSNews 08/11/11

    Let me ask:

    Are YOU a Corporation...

    or an American citizen?

  • activ2004 Clearfield, UT
    Jan. 13, 2012 10:05 a.m.

    Let me see.

    Since the early embryonic stages of Freedom Works, the United States has moved [down] the World Index of Economic Freedom ladder to become number 10 in the world rankings. I suppose this is good job security for the socially progressive Freedom Works to get rid of Senator Hatch that way they will have neutralized and gained power over the most important finance committee, so they can continue to assure their perpetual, self absorbed job security as America steps down the Economic Freedom Ladder even further.

    By their fruits ye shall know them. I challenge Mr. Armey and his followers to explain the economic hypocrisy of his socially progressive record to the world; [it] is already there in the United States Congress history books for the political intellects and those who want to be made free by learning the truth about he who they so blindly follow.

    Jan. 12, 2012 11:46 p.m.

    Glad someone is trying to help Utah get rid of its out of state corporate and lobby owned Senator Hatch. Nearly all of his war chest is funded by these out of state lobbies and corporations...its called quid pro help me and I'll help you. It really is time for Orrin Hatch to come home. 36 years is long enough. Your most recent votes to raise the debt ceiling (16 times), and the liberty killing NDAA shows you really have little regard for smaller government or the constitution. We don't believe in a lifetime monarchy. Come home.

  • adamgalepolitics LA VERKIN, UT
    Jan. 12, 2012 9:14 p.m.

    Chris Herrod is a proven supporter of the Constitution, a proven supporter of Courage, Liberty, and Integrity. He has my vote for standing up and telling the status quo, that We The People have had enough.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 12, 2012 6:21 p.m.

    What's really frightening is that they want to replace Hatch with something even worse.

    Wake up, Utah voters. Look carefully at what these extremists are trying to do to our nation.

    Let's replace Hatch with someone who will actually do some good for all of us.

    That would be Pete Ashdown.