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  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2012 3:31 p.m.

    They certainly don't ALL support the same candidate, just most of them.

    Back in 2008, Romney got 89.5% of the primary vote in Utah vs 51.1% in Massachusetts, the state he was Governor of.

    By comparison's sake Obama got 64.7% in Illinois but in the most liberal (and frequently accused of voting for Obama just because he's black) area in the nation, D.C., he got 75.3%, a mere 10 point swing versus Romney's 38 point swing.

    Jan. 10, 2012 2:49 p.m.

    I applaud your efforts. I've entertained the reasoning and origins of many such myths myself. Keep up the good work.

  • Vegas Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 10, 2012 2:03 p.m.

    John, you've proven my point. As I remember when the Passion of the Christ was so popular, a lot of my friends and family members wouldn't see it because "it is rated R". Benson's talk is a) directed at youth and b) geared toward teaching a broader theme to stay away from forms of entertainment that are degrading. FYI, this is still the Church's stand (see the new Strength of Youth pamphlet). It IS a byproduct of Mormon culture, not Church doctrine, to stay away from all rated R movies.

    There's even a vibrant business in Utah dedicated to taking out the swear words in spiritually degrading movies, just so Mormons can watch the trash while still claiming to have never seen a rated R movie.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Jan. 10, 2012 1:22 p.m.

    Since Sister Gaeth was the only female Latter-day Saint in Czechoslovakia who had been to the temple, she had been sealed to her husband there (I do not remember if they got married in Chicago first and then went to get sealed in Salt Lake, or if they got married in Salt Lake outright, it was not until sometime later that the standard of a year minimum between baptism and endownment was introduced), she had more insight on the Church than any other sisters in Czechoslovakia at the time. Also she and her husband had spent the summer in Salt Lake City getting trained by President and Sister Widtsoe. She had thus been to more fully functioning relief society meetings than any other sister in Czechoslovakia, and so her having the position of mission relief society president was not a situation of putting her over people who had significantly more experience in the Church than her.

    I am not sure if mission relief society presidents tended to have counselors, but some things I have read suggest that even mission presidents at times did not have counselors in the early 20th century.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Jan. 10, 2012 1:17 p.m.

    The claim that Relief Society is a "seperate" group is just plain incorrect. That was to some extent true when it first was organized, but definantly since 1971 (and arguably for a time before that) the Relief Society has been an integral and undistinguiishable part of the Church.

    The fact that attendance at relief society is part of the Church meetings one needs to regularly attend for temple worthiness purposes shows this. The roles of mission president's wife/companion and temple matron are also more or less roles of leadership and supervision. In some ways for the mission presidents wife their role was even larger in the past. For example when John A. Widstoe was president of the European Mission, his wife Leah D. Widstoe served as president of the Relief Society, Young Women and Primary throughout the mission. Arguably even more fun was Martha Kralickova Gaeth who in the fall of 1931 was made president of the Czechoslovakian Mission Relief Society even though she had been a member only since the privious March since she was the wife of the mission president. A little more in my next comment.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Jan. 10, 2012 1:09 p.m.

    Since it was a prophet of the Lord who counseled against seeing R-rated movies, I think it is more than just a "cultural" Mormonism thing. On the other hand if you read President Benson's actual statement, you would realize that he is not advocating abdication of your movie choices to the raters. There are definantly movies not rated R that if you follow his counsel you would not watch.

    In response to the claim that "women can not hold any positions of authority in the Church". I think this is built around a flawed understanding of governance and authority in the LDS Church. It also is built around a definition of terms that is meant to allow the accusation in the first place. The term "authority" and not "leadership" is deliberately chosen because women do serve in positions of leadership in the Church, from the General Relief Society presidency on down.

    Such a claim of "no authority" serves no purpose but to obscure the truth with empty rhetoric that has no real connection to how things actually happen.

  • Vegas Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 10, 2012 12:34 p.m.

    Interesting podcast, I'll have to tune in.

    I wonder if they'll cover some other mormon myths like:

    Mormons can't drink caffeine
    Mormons can't watch rated R movies
    and other cultural but not doctrinal topics.

    I also wonder if the ladies do much research for their topics or if they're just throwing out their opinions.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2012 10:06 a.m.

    All this praise for women in the church (which is most likely deserved)...

    but they cannot hold any positions of AUTHORITY in the church. Only in some SEPERATE group Relief society.

    It is still a male dominated faith. Like many faiths.

    And I, have more respect for them, rather than treat them as 'seperate but equal' status.

  • Mormon Wookiee Riverton, UT
    Jan. 10, 2012 9:29 a.m.

    Thanks for listing my blog, Emily! You totally made my day!

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    Jan. 10, 2012 9:13 a.m.

    I,for one, have always appreciated the multiple skills of women -- especially in the church. It is sad that when some of those talents revolve around domestic issues that they are not considered noteworthy. My mother was and is a great cook, but also gardener, interior decorator, and very sharp with business matters. My wife is quite the artist, in addition to her culinary skills and farm wife skills. The best musicians I have known, as well as writers and all around creative people are likewise of the fairer gender.

    I have usually benefited when I have headed their counsel and have been blessed by their capacity to see more clearly than I usually do.