If you want someone that can beat Obama, you have to go with Ron Paul.How did Obama win last election. Because he had the support of the
independents and the youth. In the Iowa primary, Ron Paul got 45% of all the
independents and 50% of all the youth. Any republican will get the republican
base, but only Ron Paul can cross party lines. There are many democrats that
have switched republican just for this race just for Ron Paul.The
nation still has a bad taste in their mouth from Bush. Romney is just a typical
republican establishment candidate to the rest of the country; another Bush. If
we want to beat Obama, we must elect Dr. Paul.
"Would I like a Mormon president? Sure, but only if he is elected by an
educational vote and not on religious biases."Was Obama elected
by an educational vote? He won because of two words (hope and change) with just
pep rally speeches. A hidden past with no birth certificate at the time, and he
wins. You can't even get a job in the military, police, FBI, etc without the
birth certificate. How did BO do it as a Senator and US president? People with a high school degree and not taking government handouts, should be
the only ones voting. Period!
No DN, "America Looses" with Mitt... Stop telling people how to think!
Ron Paul people I have asked this many times on many different sites and have
yet to recieve a good answer. Can you please tell me what it means to be a
constitutionalist and to go back to the constitution? It would be greatly
appreciated if you scholars would explain this to me.
Mitt is saying what he needs to get into the white house. Then he willsow
some right wing views.At least that would be my plan.
"Cost Of Wars In Iraq $3.7 Trillion"Cost of Obama: $4+
trillionWhich cost America more? Not to mention that unlike Obama,
the wars in Iraq brought about positive changes to mankind."More platetudes from the Right:Obama lies!"Promise:"I'll make our government open and transparent so that
anyone can ensure that our business is the people's business... when I'm
President meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public. No
more secrecy. That's a commitment I make to you as President."Delivery:*'Obama Reneges on Health Care Transparency' - CBS News -
1/7/2010Promise:"When there's a bill that ends up on my
desk as President, you the public will have 5 days to look online, and find out
what's in it before I sign it"Delivery:*'Obama Signs
Health Care Overhaul Bill' - NYTimes - 3/23/2010 Note that this is less
than 2 days after the House passed the bill (passed Sunday night, signed
Tuesday).And for more kicks and giggles:"We have to
pass the health care bill so that we can find out what is in it" -Nancy
PelosiIs it fair to call Obama a liar? Let's see.... Read the above
quotes and the answer is yes!
'Obama could be defeated by a kid in highschool if you bring up Obama's record.'
- BlueShirt | 2:51 p.m. Jan. 4, 2012 Promise:*'Obama HRC
Speech: "I Will End Don't Ask, Don't Tell," Says President Obama' - By
CHRISTINE SIMMONS - Huffington Post - 10/10/09Delivery:*'Obama
signs 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal' - By Pauline Jelinek - AP - Published by
DSnews - 12/22/10Promise:*'Obama to pull combat troops from
Iraq by August 2010' - CNN - 02/26/09Delivery:*'Last U.S.
combat brigade leaves Iraq' - By Rebecca Santana - AP - Published by DSNews -
08/19/10*'Obama announces total Iraq troop withdrawal' - By Ben
Feller - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/21/2011 *'Osama bin Laden
Killed: 'Justice Is Done,' President Says' - By DEAN SCHABNER - ABC News -
05/01/2011 What 'kid in highschool' are YOU talking about...? :) More platetudes from the Right: Obama lies! Obama has
a HORRIBLE record! Without mention... as to WHAT the
record has been, to date. Better than Republican leadership: *'Cost Of Wars In Iraq $3.7 Trillion' - By Elise Foley - Huffington
Post - 06/29/11 *'U.S. Military deaths in Iraq war at 4,485 - AP -
Published by the DSNews - 12/20/2011
To "Mike in Sandy | 1:51 p.m." all the Republicans need to do to beat
Obama is play his interview where he said that if the economy hadn't turned
around after 3 years that he should be a one term President.In
between using Obama's own words as to why he should be a one term President, you
can then start showing Obama's record on everything from raising healthcare
costs, to passing laws that allow the indefinate detention of US citizens, to
the fact that he increased the debt in 3 years more than Bush did in 8, to
backing Al Qaeda in Libya, to most anything in Obama's record as President.
Obama could be defeated by a kid in highschool if you bring up Obama's record.
The ultimate blessing is that America is fed up with the rich helping each other
out, sweeping the small guy under the rug after taking all his tax money, and
this whole "Occupy" movement will push the vote in the direction of
the incumbent.There isn't a republican in the mix that will beat Obama.Not a chance.And they know it.You can tell by the
smear campaigns, rather than telling us what THEY will do. Not a word.Sorry, silly GOP.
"It's not just that he's LDS. They don't like Romneycare and they don't
like the pandering/flip-flopping he's done over the years. They don't trust him
and maybe that makes him come across as a sleazy salesman to some of
them."It's mostly because he's LDS though. Show me a politician
that doesn't flip flop...obamacare is pretty sleazy in my book...and Obama is
the epitome of distrust.
"Mitt Kardashian.He does nothing, talks a lot, relies on his looks,
but can't deliver anything of substance.So sorry that people are falling
for his nonsense.Newt was right about him."This sounds
more like a description of Barack Obama to me....
'I guess Republicans like to bash socialist healthcare but they don't appear to
hate it that much if they are willing to elect the man that wrote the bill.' -
Anti Bush-Obama | 11:44 a.m. Jan. 4, 2012 Don't forget the people
who run for office JUST LONG ENOUGH to take advantage of socialized
healthcare. As exampled by: *'Controversial Sen. Chris
Buttars announces retirement at end of legislative session' - By Dennis Romboy
and Amanda Verzello, Deseret News - 03/11/11
I will support the radically dangerous idea of supporting the constitution.
Correction, Facism wins. The Gadianton Robbers win. The funniest thing is that
people actually believe they have a real choice. Gadianton Robber (Romney) vs
Gadianton Robber(Obama). I think I will vote for Donald Duck.
I guess Republicans like to bash socialist healthcare but they don't appear to
hate it that much if they are willing to elect the man that wrote the bill. Do you guys honestly believe he will keep any of his campaign promises?
Mitt is as real in his patriotism as professional wrestling. If you guys think
Obama is bad, Romney will be even worse. He will be Obama on steroids. President Hinckley named two things that played a major factor in the downfall
of the nephite civilzation. Uneseccary wars and burdensome taxes. Both of which
exist today.Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing. By their fruits ye
shall know them.
@SandvikSwede"rather than a candidate like Mitt who shares Most of
their values, except for the fact he is LDS. "It's not just
that he's LDS. They don't like Romneycare and they don't like the
pandering/flip-flopping he's done over the years. They don't trust him and maybe
that makes him come across as a sleazy salesman to some of them.
I'm writing as a faithful LDS in Ohio. Just curious, can Mitt do anything to win
over more of the born again Evangelicals?? It seems like their preachers would
rather have an unethical jerk (Newt) or a dangerous isolationist (Paul) or an
extremely right-winger with little experience (Santorum), rather than a
candidate like Mitt who shares Most of their values, except for the fact he is
This is a three way tie: 7 delegats each. Not a "huge" win as Romney
would want us to beleive.
I would not expect Fox News to have fair coverage of Romney: *'Fox
News host: Romney not Christian' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 07/17/11 Or, ANYONE for that matter. *'Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks
Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows' - By Lauren Green - 08/19/10 - Fox News Reality: *Obama, family attend Christmas church services By
Julie Pace AP Pulibshed by DSNews 12/25/11 They can't even get
the FACTS right: *'Walgreens Corrects Fox & Friends: We Don't
Offer Pap Smears' - Media Matters - 04/11/11 On Saturday's Fox &
Friends, co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade attempted to dismiss the
importance of Planned Parenthood funding by claiming that services like pap
smears are available "at Walgreens'. In response to an email about the
segment, a Walgreens spokesperson told Media Matters that they do not offer such
America won nothing in this vote.
I should have said FOX did not have expanded coverage on my cable. They did
cover news but not the full run from 7 p.m. on as MSNBC and CNN did. I wanted
to see expanded coverage.
After reading all these comments, I think a lot of you have forgotten that
Romney wasn't trying to win Iowa untill a few days ago. He has been focusing on
New Hampshire. For him to do this well when he has spent so little time and
effort in the state is amazing.
I chuckled when one of the reporters in Iowa reported on the demographics and
characteristics of Ron Paul, Rick Santorum and the other nominees supporters. He
observed that the Romney camp were all wearing windbreakers with logos from
Corporations and Golf resorts. Funny, but kind of sad.
AWESOME! Congratulation to Mitt. He will make a great president if we are lucky
enough to have him. He has brains and morals. I greatly admire him.
Any article that brings out Pagan's typical hand-wringing is a good article.
8 votes is still a win, with or without a field goal or a shot from the foul
line. Our process wants to have the best person, Democrat or Republican. We
need to be part of the system and do our part to ensure that happens. You can't
speak for anyone else but you can speak for yourself and that is this forum.
Representative Bachman has done a lot of good things and when she stated she
wasn't a politician, last night, she was probably stating she was making the
decision today. That changes the dynamics with those latest two dropping out
but that is politics. After living in countries where the system literally
wipes opponents out, it is a much better system here. People still want to come
to our country as it is safer due to our system. That doesn't mean it doesn't
have deficiencies, such as too much government, in some cases. Elections of all
our elected officials is how we do it and keeping your elected officials up to
speed on your interests, concerns and especially thanks for doing the right
things for constituents. Thanks for good people and our special political and
These past months I have wondered...Who is the DNews voting for?
It's so hard to tell.I'm mormon, but I was a fan of Cain back when
he was still running. The DNews should be ashamed of itself for manipulating
uneducated readers in politics to vote for Romney. He's one one many candidates
you know.Would I like a mormon president? Sure, but only if he is
elected by an educational vote and not on religious biases.What's
America coming to? Thanks alot, DNews.
This is far from over. With Perry and Bachmann set to drop out those votes are
going to Santorum and Gingrich. Santorum is still at only 5% on intrade to win
the nomination and most recently polled 5% in south carolina while Gingrich had
a 10 point lead there over Romney. Romney's best bet is for Santorum to surge
and take about 10-15 points away from Gingrich. Otherwise, if Santorum falls in
South Carolina then Gingrich could still come back.
OOPS- CORRECTION:To all of those Romney critics above: This IS a big win
for Romney. The only UNfortunate thing about it is that if Michelle Bachman and
Rick Parry drop out, there will be fewer candidates splitting the evangelical
block (which is showing itself to be anti-Mormon) and fewer candidates splitting
the extreme no-compromise social conservative block.
JWB: FOX did cover the Iowa caucus! I saw it myself!To all of those
Romney critics above: This IS a big win for Romney. The only fortunate thing
about it is that if Michelle Bachman and Rick Parry drop out, there will be
fewer candidates splitting the evangelical block (which is showing itself to be
anti-Mormon) and fewer candidates splitting the extreme no-compromise social
Mitt Kardashian.He does nothing, talks a lot, relies on his looks, but
can't deliver anything of substance.So sorry that people are falling for
his nonsense.Newt was right about him.
re: Utter Nonsense | 10:25 p.m. Jan. 3, 2012 Exactly. Just wait
until Perry & Santorum drop out. Then, all "theocratic
conservatives" will come after Mitt guns blazing & things will get
interesting.My problem w/ Romney is he panders to Joe Average and
comes across as insincere. Embrace the fact, Mitt you are part of the 1% and
roll withMaybe, Mitt will talk show on fixed noise like Huckabee who
won Iowa in 2008?I'll vote for Ron Paul provided he runs on a 3rd
party ticket. Otherwise, I'm writing in Keith Olbermann & Dan Patrick.
I think that given the candidates, Mitt Romney is the best man for the job. But
is he electable? I would hate to see our country ruined even further if our
present administration gets reelected. Mitt, who seems to be a very
personable man, at least that's what his publicity people portray him as, does
not have the charm and charisma of Obama when he was running. Obama gave
wonderful, flowery speeches while outlining the destruction of America. Most of
the people believed in him and boy, did we get a change but not for the better.
So many people are worse off with foreclosures, joblessness and
losing their livelihood in small businesses. Our great nation is on the verge
of bankruptcy; China owns us. How much more Obama can we take? Oh, but of
course, letâs blame it on Bush. Why didnât Obama take charge of the
country when he won instead of giving useless bailouts to his pet projects and
causing America to lose some of her credit rating worldwide? GO MITT!
So, I don't see any published comments about this yet but - despite this new
headline - it won't be until June that we see the winners of any actual
delegates to what may end up being a "brokered" convention (ie a
convention where the delegates matter and more than one round of voting occurs).
After this second Iowa "straw poll" vote, the most dedicated caucus
attendees stood for election as County delegates who eventually vote for
District delegates who eventually vote for State delegates in June or something
and end up sending 28 un-tethered votes to that Convention. Still an
interesting show though.
It was so great to see the process in Iowa yesterday. I believe the caucus was
for Iowans and am grateful the Deseret News published information about that
process. With the world using the Internet, people can find the local
information about the individual state primaries, every ten seconds, if needed.
We don't have to use the Deseret News for all our sources. The Salt Lake
Tribune, Utah Valley Herald and Standard Examiner plus many other news resources
are available. USA Today publishes national and one paragraph about Utah news
each weekday that people can take advantage of that resource. Television and
radio stations are available with plenty of information for those candidates you
want to listen to. FOX stations didn't cover the caucus last night and the
MSNNBC and CNN channels covered the caucus. We are so fortunate to live in a
time, maybe, when news is instantaneous. People in the past didn't have social
networking as we do today that you can sign up for. We have so many choices,
that it seems odd that people would complain about not having the opportunity
for choice. We are so fortunate to have a Constitution and many people's
I read alot of "you mormons are out of touch with the rest of the
country" or "you would only vote for a mormon because he's a
mormon" on this site. Blah, blah, blah...If that were the case then I
guess we will hear from the good senator Harry Reid throwing his favor behind
the other mormon, Romney. Sure! Last election we had Hope and Change,
this election we will have a turnaround businessman who will help us dig our way
out of the costs associated with hope and change.
Stop the spending. End the wars.A fiscal conservative that is a war
liberal in reality a fiscal liberal.We need someone who stands for
the Constitution and for fiscal accountability, and has a track record of doing
so.Ron Paul is that candidate.
I happen to be a conservative Catholic Navy veteran Romney supporter. Before
the GOP takes on Obama, they have to solve the moderate-conservative dilemma.
Santorum is only the latest to put on the lead jersey of the right.
Romney got the win. Even more important, he squashed Gingrich and Perry in the
process. Perry is looking to quit and Gingrich is on the ropes. Santorum has no
staying power and only a select few will be attracted to Paul.New
Hampshire is a slam dunk. Let's see who is left after that.Mitt 2012
@ Truthseeker. $10 million dollar house? Nice try but the Al Gore, John
Edwards,John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank and Bill Clinton
mansions were not available! But the Obama White House is very available come
November! That is where Romney will be soon!
My wife, daughter and I attended the Iowa caucus last night. Our precinct gave
Mitt Romney a 45-vote cushion by the time our precinct voting was completed. I
think every Iowan is thrilled to have the campaign completed. The robo calls
came 10 to 15 a day from all candidates (except Jon Huntsman).@UtahBlueDevil: As a watcher of the political process as a journalist and
citizen for many years, I've met few candidates who felt they alone could change
the course of government. Did you expect to have a detailed action plan provided
in a 30-second or less sound bite on every topic?What is unstated by
all candidates, not just Romney, is the process requires enough similarly-minded
elected officials to effect change in government.As for finding out
about all the candidates' promises in Iowa, the Des Moines Register has a
website that is kept well updated.
Odd that no one mentioned the amount of money spent on Romney's behalf.Don't you think that may have played a part in the outcome and Newt's 4th
place finish?You can be assured that there will be an outrage when
Obama's PAC's start spending money.The Citizens United ruling was a
sad day for America.We need to get corporate and union money out of
our political system.And we need to complain about it even when it
helps our own candidate.Anyone think that UNLIMITED, Anonymous
corporate money is good for our election process? If so, please explain.
Not surprised be the turn out of the Iowa Caucus. Seems like the media is
running off of "Poll Numbers" and not the issues that really need to
be addressed!!At this point, I'm disappointed in "all"
candidates for the GOP and sick of Barack Obama, who taunts about how great a
President he is......seriously what has this guy done beside ruin America and
bring in "BIG GOVERNMENT" to control your life style???!
One Non Issue beats another Non Issue by 8 Votes, in somthing that is Not a Free
Election and America Wins. Get over it.If Mr. Mormon but not Mormon
enough wins the Nomination then Obama will have a real good shot at a 2nd
Term.We need to directly elect the President and the VP needs to be
a seperate issue. This would have ment Al Gore but perhaps people would be more
careful.How about the President being a Non Partisan Race. No one
gets 50% you have a run off. Millions of people less will vote in a run off
because they already Voted. That would be the fair way. The Mayor of
Honolulu is Non Party and two Dems are leading the field 1 a former Gov. Great
side story don't like his stand on Abortion. Do not like the fact he Vetoed
Hawaii's 16-5 Law. Overturned the Veto but people still think its 14-0 because
the do not understand override. The mayor who was DA at time selectively
enforced it as DA. However the 16-5 law has helped a lot of Parents keep Control
of Daughters and Sons.
I watched both speaches tonight hoping I would hear something new and fresh and
all I got anearfull of was how we are going to make America great by lowering
your taxes and eliminating taxes for corporations. The rest was a bunch of
promises that neither could keep because the things they promised to do were not
powers granted to the office of president. But most will ignore that little
detail and cheer the promise makers.What can't we have a candidate
that runs on what they actually can do, and not on over applying blame to
someone who doesn't have powers to do all they credit him with doing.Honesty, from an LDS candidate, wouldn't that be worth voting for? Mit may be
a good LDS dad, but he is letting his political ambitions taint his ethical
judgement. Run an honest campaign and I will vote for ya... Don't and I won't
because I hold you to a higher standard because he is representing my faith as
Next stop for Romney: New Hampshire and his $10 million house there.
The media keeps saying that Romney isn't doing any better in Iowa than he did 4
years ago. It was a two horse race then. This time there were 3 other people
winning counties and splitting the votes. So it actually means Romney did better
this time because he didn't lose supporters even though there were more
candidates vying for them. Simple math.
Romney should fire his Super-PAC.6 years of campaigning and he is no
further ahead than he was in 2008.25% of Iowa voters say yes.Great.75% say NO.All of the candidates are united in making
President Obama a one term President.The problem Romney faces is ALL the
candidates are united in making him a TWO TIME LOSER.
@Observation-ist, Paul doesn't propose that we "dismantle [the]
military" ... do you believe following the Constitution to declare wars and
no attacking nations that never attacked us to be dangerous or somehow
translates to "dismantling our defense forces"? A President Paul
would likely have accepted a captured Bin Laden from Afghanistan when the
Taliban offered him up in 2001 just weeks after the attack instead of unleashing
war on five entire nations and creating new generations of survivors who might
hate the seemingly unjust occupiers who killed their family members with
mistaken drone strikes and bad intel and thousands in "collateral
Ron Paul is dangerous? The only man who consistently supports the U.S.
Constitution is dangerous? Romney is supported by the same people who are fine
with Obama being president. They're actually not too far apart in their
decision-making. Romney or Obama being president - they would both make the
same decisions. Ron Paul is the only candidate in the field who actually will
stand on principle, who hasn't been bought and paid for by corporations with big
federal contracts or a hand out wanting a taxpayer-funded "bail-out",
who has a decades-long voting record of supporting legislation that keeps us
staying true to the Constitution. Please, research before you label Ron Paul
"dangerous". He is dangerous only to the professional political
class, the large corporate empires who care little for the U.S. or its people,
and those who see politics as a game akin to football. I suggest you go to the
horse's mouth and visit Ron Paul's website to find out what he truly stands for
and who he represents.
Having Chaffetz hanging around w/ Mitt is reason enough to vote for another
Santorum did this well because he spent an enormous amount of time cultivating
relationships with the people of Iowa. By his own admission, he did well
because of his grass-roots efforts. Once he leaves Iowa, his 'grass-roots' are
behind him. He'll fade.I thought Iowan's thought better. 22% for
Ron Paul who is dangerous. He's so far right, he actually relates better to the
far left (dismantle military, etc.) Iowa's not such a good conservative proving
ground after all.Romney and Gingrich will survive past South
@David KingWhile it is true that there ARE other candidates in the
race to win Iowa, Mitt Romney has a huge lead (RCP average 21%) in the New
Hampshire polls. Earlier in the year the Romney campaign had pretty much
written Iowa off as a loss. It is a pretty big deal that he's even tied in this
race.Paul and Santorum will most likely fade into the sunset after
Iowa. They way behind in New Hampshire.
The caucus in Iowa isn't going to be impacted by the Deseret News publishing
articles about any of the candidates. If people want a balance on the news, they
can review the Salt Lake Tribune, which is our area's balance for news and
reporting and even comments. We are fortunate to have balance in our news
companies in the Salt Lake City reading area. The Deseret News and Tribune have
always provided that balance and we can subscribe to their services. Reading
either paper can give anyone the opportunity to see the national and
international news in perspective to what the audiance wants. If one wants more
access to news there are probably 100s sources either on the Internet, public
and private media sources available from most homes. Magazines are not as
flexible due to publishing limitation but we have so many sources available
without government interference. I have lived in countries that are limited on
sources and variety of information due to government interference, whether
police or army forces intervention. People in those countries don't have real
freedom and we are blessed to have a U.S. Constitution and form of governmen to
protect us. Thanks for good Editors
Any other candidates in the race?
Caucuses favor the groups that are reliable voters (elderly, evangelicals) and
the devoted (paul fans, or obama supporters in 08 as he did way better than
clinton in the caucuses whereas she did better in primaries). Romney better not
sound too confident, it is entirely plausible that he finishes third today
behind Paul and Santorum in some order.
'Try thinking outside the box! You have a computer, try and goggle some of the
other people...' - Eddie | 11:44 a.m. Jan. 3, 2012 So...newspapers
can't be balanced now? They MUST be partisan? That
@DKsimple solution...spare yourself all the grief (and us as well from all
your whining)and read another daily!
@ David KingTry thinking outside the box! You have a computer, try
and goggle some of the other people or does your computer just work with DN.
It's a good thing the Deseret News feels there are no other candidates worthy of
their coverage. If there were, I might have to think about my vote, look at all
the candidates, and consider their positions. Fortunately, the DN has done my
thinking for me, winnowed the field to one candidate, with the occasional brief
aside on Jon Huntsman, and ignored the other.Voting has never been
so easy! Thanks Deseret News!