Utah Jazz frigid in low-scoring lopsided loss to Lakers

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  • Mr. C St. George, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:59 p.m.

    This team will be sold in the near future.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 5:52 p.m.


    Your the one who needs to get over things...allow people to say what they want to say...Get Over It.

  • es4 Park City, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 4:54 p.m.

    Hey cj...your comments are about as good as you play.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Dec. 28, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    This is going to be such a fun year.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    Most of you message boarders must be kidding me. The Jazz team will go down in Utah Jazz lore as one of the most pathetic aggregations masquerading as an NBA team. I told you people this weeks ago after the systematic dismantling of the team; the latest move being Okur. What we are left with is a collection of characters that cannot match up with even a few of the teams in the leaque; and there are many that aren't even close to contending for anything; let alone a league championship....that is a long way off out in the cosmos of the most diehard and truly blind Jazz fanatics....and I am a Jazz fan. Please don't bore me with rose colored glass notions that there were only 10 turnovers, and the like. No need to be upset about anything. Merely support the team, and watch the stars on the opposing teams toy with the Jazz. Why doesn't management sell the rights to the name Jazz, or trade with the Hornets name and get rid of this aura of New Orleans in Utah; it doesn't fit. Seriously, the team could use a better coaching staff that cracks the whip.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 2:27 p.m.

    The Jazz also had just 10 turn overs. If they shoot better and get to the rim more, they should have a much better outing tonight.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 2:26 p.m.

    A couple interesting facts about this game:

    1- The Jazz and Lakers each had 46 rebounds, so we kept up with L.A., Kanter had 11 rebounds in 21 minutes.

    2- The Jazz had 20 assists to the Lakers 17. Pretty impressive to have more assists than L.A. when we only had 71 points. That means we were executing, just not knocking down jumpers.

    3- Josh Howard scored 10 points in 24 minutes, the only person other than Millsap in double digits.

    4- The Jazz shot 1-13 from down town, the Lakers hit 6-16. The Jazz were just 12-17 from the line, the Lakers were 30-37.

    The Jazz need to run more. Get to the rim, draw some fouls. Keep executing, the shots were there, the execution was there. I think Kanter should get some more minutes tonight, and Josh Howard. I would also like to see Burks on the floor.

    Go Jazz Go!

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    I would like to see more Burks tonight at Denver. It cannot be worse than what Raja did last night. I would also like to see a much more aggresive Kanter. He still looks a little star struck out there. (Understandably) Let's go Jazz! Bring it tonight. Win or lose, let's please just see a little bit of running and some passion. When we see that, we will start seeing some wins too.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 1:40 p.m.

    The Jazz have played 3 games. 2 preseason and 1 regular season.

    They have come out completely flat and unprepared in 2 of the 3 games.

    All you Jerry bashers are going to be eating crow in a big way.

    Devin Harris went to the Boozer school of defense over the summer.

    Al Jefferson went to self-affirmation class and plans to do the exact same thing as last year and that is play no defense, shoot every time he touches the ball (after he pauses and lets the defense recover and our offense stagnate).

    CJ Miles lost some weight and is the same pathetic inconistent player he has been for the last 6 years. "maybe next year will be the year...'

    Raja Bell is a year older and that much more worthless.

    Come back in 3-4 years when we have unloaded these worthless veterans because they are the ones acting like the rookies.

    The rookies are predictable inconsistent and we won't know what they can do for years because the pathetic veterans are getting most of the minutes.

    We need the old Sloan back to induce some fear in these pansies. Clearly they have no urgency at all.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Dec. 28, 2011 1:30 p.m.

    Regarding the captain in Kanab, who I would have put on Kobe would have been Hayward to begin with, then given Burks and Evans spme experience against him because what would they have done worse than what Bell & goofus Miles did?

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 1:28 p.m.

    So the Jazz have all these young talented bigs and you want Fes? Big deal if the Warriors signed him, that guy will have no impact in the league.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    Dec. 28, 2011 1:02 p.m.

    @ Jazzledazzle

    Fes is not out of the league. He has been signed by the Warriors.

    And by the way -- he did a far better job defending Gasol in the past than Kanter did last night. But I expect the kid to learn defense.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:26 p.m.

    @ bloodshy

    I expect you are joking about Fez. What did that gomer do in the couple years he was here? Fez is fine where he is at, which is out of the league.

  • Dustin Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    My thoughts:
    The Jazz are confused, not unmotivated, both on offense and defense. It is hard to hussle when you don't know where to hussle to.
    Kanter is just jittery, his offense will come around.
    Leadership is our biggest problem, on the court and off the court.
    O'Conner is not the reason for the loss. Having Okur would not have helped us. I miss Williams too, but he was going to leave us either way.
    We need to settle down, it was just one game. A little more love from the referees and another 10% higher on our shooting, and we were in this game.
    Josh Howard played the best defense on Kobe, and seemed to have the most energy. He may be one of out best pick-ups.
    There is so much negativity on this forum. I am extremely disappointed with this game, but everyone is talking like the season is over already. Is anyone else here planning on abandoning the Jazz? If so, you might as well be a Laker fan, we don't need you. The Jazz is my team through thick and thin.

  • millsapfan Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:15 p.m.


    as you can see, i am no longer a dwill fan. :)

    i set up this account back when dwill was a second year player for the jazz (good times) and never got around to adding a different display name...until now.

  • 7dawg Norman, OK
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:10 p.m.

    Kanter looked like the second coming of Koufos.

  • Bloodshy DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    If we do make a trade that moves Al, the Jazz should re-sign AK & Fez.

  • Bloodshy DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:02 p.m.

    Lead-foot Al.
    Worthless CJ.
    Blind Harris.
    Old Man Rose.

    None of those players can ever be a key component of a successful team.

    Starters: (1) Tinsley--at least he has court vision (2) Hayward--we need someone to replace Bell & Burks isn't ready (3) Howard--probably our best wing right now (4) Sap--probably our best player right now (5) Favors

    We need a trade moving the players listed at the top that will allow us to pick up a 1 (Bledsoe or Rondo) or a wing (Ellis or Granger). I've never seen a team w/less capable perimeter players than the Jazz are right now. Having the slowest post man in history doesn't help them get space.

  • TerryHaimes Sturgis, MS
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:02 p.m.

    The Jazz must be seeking Catholic Sainthood. They now have their first miracle with plenty of witnesses to verify it. The Lakers were done, you could insert the fork, then the Jazz resurrected them.

    If the later part of last season and this game is what we can expect from Corbin's game and personnel management then he needs to be fired now and save everybody a lot of grief.

    Bell,Heyward, Millsaps, Watson, Evans and maybe Kantor were the only people that gave any effort at all.

    I'm ashamed to say Jefferson is a fellow Mississippian. Favors is supposed to be one of the fastest if not the fastest person in the NBA. He not only don't push the ball, he can't get back on defense. Why is he on the floor? Why are the Jazz trying to play Howard when Evans is on the bench?

    I'm not only disgusted, I'm sick. Why did I sit up until midnight watching? Fesenko is a Warrior and it won't be long before Kirlenko shows up.

    Terry M. Haimes

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:48 a.m.

    If the Jazz are going to be this bad, then the only way I can stand to watch them is if they go with Favors, Kanter, Milsap, Howard, Evans, Hayward, Burks, Watson and Tinsley. The only time I have seen the offense flow this year was for awhile against Portland when Tinsley was running the point. Bell, Jefferson, Harris and Miles are very hard to watch as they do not fit this team. Bell is washed up, the last time he played good was 6 years ago. With the other 3 it is about their ball hogging style and lack of defensive effort. We just as well go with the other guys and see if they want to get after it and play. What have we got to lose if we are going to lose anyway?

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:46 a.m.

    To me the Jazz look disjointed, unorganized, uninspired and leaderless. I can't really tell what they are trying to do out there. At least with Sloan you had an idea what the offensive sets are, what the defensive schemes were. Right now, it looks like the Jazz are running around hoping that on any given night our shots go in. That won't win in the NBA. You have to have a vision, a game plan and commitment to execute it.

  • sportsfan2k10 Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:39 a.m.

    RELAX!!! It was the first game of the year against the Lakers in L.A.! Since when does losing a game like that mean we are doomed for the rest of the year? The fact is, the Jazz will struggle on the road against playoff teams this year. But as long as we beat a few of them and beat most of the non-playoff teams on the road; as well as have a somewhat decent record at home, I will consider the season a success. Do you people really expect a team with 7 guys that are 26 years old or younger to beat up on the Lakers? In their building? Come on!

    The Oklahoma City Thunder started out 0-8 in the 07'-08' season, which was Kevin Durant's rookie season, and went on to a 20-62 record by the end of the season! Then in the 08'-09' season they started out 1-16 and ended at 23-59!! Now they are the favorite to win the West!

    So once again... CHILL OUT!

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:27 a.m.

    I have two frustrations from last night's game: 1) The Lakers didn't look all that good--the Jazz just looked that bad; and 2) Since we now have 0 proven shooters on our team, it looks like Al Jefferson will continue to get bumped from the post and settle for 18 foot jumpers.

    The psychie of the human basketball player is pretty amazing. If you can't get up and get excited to play the LA Lakers, you may be in the wrong profession. Do the players really not know what Jazz fans go through along the Wasatch front every time we lose to the Lakers? Going to work after losing to the Lakers just stinks with all the gloating.

    Are we, the fans, supposed to now say this truly is a rebuilding year and we don't expect this team to grab the 8th seed this year? Will our players get a chip on their shoulder and play hard just to prove us wrong? I will enjoy rooting for our youth. But they do need to play with more heart than last night.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:26 a.m.

    Captain: Okur hasnt had a good season since his all star season.

    2007â08 Utah 72 72 33.2 .445 .388 .804 7.7 2.0 .8 .4 14.5
    2008â09 Utah 72 72 33.5 .485 .446 .817 7.7 1.7 .8 .7 17.0
    2009â10 Utah 73 73 29.4 .458 .385 .820 7.1 1.6 .5 1.1 13.5

    His points went down in 09/10 season, but he was improved his defense a lot more...

    Your characterization of Memo is way off base.... Sorry to bust your bubble captain.

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:23 a.m.

    Sad day. I never see Jazz this bad. Jazz need coach. Roster is not for rebuilding maybe good for sale franchise. Jazz lacked desire. Lakers playing hurt and shortmanned with new system and ugly. Even bad ugly tired Lakers beat fresh young Jazz. Where was best off season free agent Howard. I said before AK was glue to this team He was bridge between offense and defense....

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:21 a.m.

    painful to watch

  • thebig1 SLC, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:15 a.m.

    Someone needs to tell these scabs the strike is over and the real NBA players need to return to the court.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    @ DWill fan

    Why are you a D Will fan. Another player who was not loyal to his organization. After every loss he never took blame, he always complained that the team did not know the plays or something stupid like that. He is an elite point guard, but not a great team mate. He ran Sloan out of town. I enjoyed the shalacking the Nets took yesterday at home to the Hawks.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:45 a.m.

    Raja Bell looked like he had his feet nailed to the floor, Kobe went by him without even making a move.
    Get rid of Raja and please, please, please, cut or trade CJ Miles, he's the worst player on the floor of any game he's in. Opposing coaches eyes light up when they see Miles and Bell on the floor.
    I hate to say I agree with the Jimmer fans here, Kanter looked horrible. How can a 6'10" guy miss so many easy shots? He looked terrified out there, no clue how to play the game, and no ability to physically dominate even a weak Pau Gasol.
    Greg Miller and KOC ruined the Jazz when they forced Sloan out. I will never buy tickets again with these clowns running the team into the ground.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:42 a.m.

    Jimmer is not from Utah! He only played college ball there. Thank you for having to break it down in simple English for you. YOu guys act like Jimmer is this local product or something. He's way past BYU basketball now. Move on!

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:23 a.m.


    1- I do not expect more than 20 wins this year.... Yet, I am excited to watch this team develop and come together

    2- Devin Harris does not play defense. I would like to see a lot more intensity out of him, he looks like he does not even care. He did not show up last night.

    3- Still love Millsap. I like the move of bringing him off the bench, we need someone to spark that second unit.

    4- Please bury Miles at the end of the bench, sometime he is 8-11 sometimes he is 1-8. Way too often it is he 1-8.

    5- I like Watson, he is gritty, and plays hard when he is in.

    6- Bell should also be used sparingly in my opinion

    7- I am giving Kanter the benefit of the doubt, but he needs to go up stronger at the rim. He is 19 though so I don't expect much out of him yet.

    This season will be fun, even with limited wins, I just hope the Jazz get some chemistry and these young players can progress.

  • Ms Molli Bountiful, Utah
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    Why are people even purchasing basketball tickets this year? So they can have something to complain about??

  • dwillfan Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    corbin says you can't panic, it's just one game. really? i completely disagree and think this is the perfect time to panic. the team is young and needs to be running, not walking the ball up court.

    this one is completely on corbin. the plays set up were absolutely atrocious and the players aren't buying into it. and his new d? yuck! corbin, if it worked for sloan for soooo many years, why would you mess with it?

    corbins system isn't gonna work. i like corbin, he's a nice enough sort, but he just isn't cut out for head coach duties and his days are numbered, or, they should be. i'd say midseason, if things don't improve (they won't), he's gone. the jazz NEED a coach that can push them into playing hard, physical, classic jazz ball. not someone that's buddies with them in the locker room and soft with them on the court.

    with so much talent, as raw as it is, they should at least be playing hard...o'conner, i am begging you, do something. NOW! those oys on the court deserve better, as do the fans.

  • Captain Kanab, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    The Bowie-MJ Kanter-Jimmer comparison is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The Gap between Kanter and Jimmer is going to be no where near the Bowie MJ gap. MJ is the greatest player in the history of the game. Jimmer had a great preseason game, but what has he done since. 6 points against the Lakers and 10 against the Magic. Yes that is a contribution but not any more than Kanter.

  • ogmson Mapleton, Utah
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    i was going to post... then I remember what my Mother said about saying nothing at all...

    At least there is no argument anymore about who the best team in the State is.

    Go Cougars!

  • Jaggie Logan, Utah
    Dec. 28, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    2 quick thoughts. Miles is still a chucker and it's a bad sign when a terrible Raja Bell leads the team in minutes played and has the stat line he did. The 2 guard position is terrible. I'm sure Corbin wants Raja to be the veteran example who hits shots and plays good D, but that was 6 years ago.

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:32 a.m.

    Put it is perspective, until a couple of weeks ago half this team and never met each other. Since then they've had a couple of weeks of practice and 2 preseason games.

    This shortened season is going to be brutal on young teams, vet teams can survive it because they know each other and what to expect.

    There are going to more of these games before this team comes together in some fashion, but don't expect playoffs, it's not going to happen for a few years.

  • CJ Murray, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    Taking Kanter over Jimmer is starting to look a lot like taking Sam Bowie over Jordan,,, are you kidding? Should have kept Memo and drafter Jimmer,he is fitting right in in the NBA,he contributes, he looks like a pro, our rookies are deer in the headlights. Who on our team is going to score points? The only guy we can count on is Milsap and he is on the bench. I like Ty but he is out of his league as an NBA Coach in my book, even the announcers are wondering what in world he is doing. He keeps talking about his "system", what is it? We have a young team who crawl down the court and try to score in a half court offense that won't work with the guys we have, the Malone/Stockton and Williams/Boozer eras are over Ty, face it.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    This type of performance never would've happened with Sloan as the head coach. CJ wouldn't have been jacking up shots like he was last night, players would've been playing hard because they knew they'd have to answer for their terrible performance, and someone besides the fans would've cared.
    As it is the players know that the management doesn't have the coaches back and all they care about is that they are getting their paychecks.
    This will be the worst team in Jazz history, and it starts with KOC and Greg Miller! What a shame they've ruined this organization so quickly.

  • pcguy PARK CITY, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    Mediocre organization, mediocre team equals mediocre results. Keep your expectations super low and you will not be too disappointed. Not going to happen this year, next year or maybe ever unless things change at the top.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    Hear that sound? It's the sound of everyone in Utah jumping off the Jazz bandwagon.

    This same scenario plays out every year: In the preseason, Jazz fans are drinking the Kool-Aid hardcore. Talk is everywhere about how much better the Jazz got since last year (while ignoring the fact that every other team also got better). Then they lay a six-pound egg on day 1 and reality comes crashing down.

    Sort of reminds you of the annual chest-beating that comes before college football season at a certain college in Utah County, doesn't it?

    Have a nice season with your overinflated sense of self, Jazz fans. By the way, my preferred NBA team stinks too (especially since they drafted Jimmer), but at least I started with realistic expectations.

  • Bomar Roberts, ID
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    Corbin's quote, "that if you shoot shots and they don't go in, you don't score" tells me all that I need to know. This team is dead in the water, they have NO heart and NO soul. There are NO leaders on this team. Season over.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    That was an UGLY game BUT it was just one game and we need to chill alittle and let's see what happens and how the team is playing in a couple of weeks.
    We need to be patient, it will take time for the youngsters to get comfortable. Favors needs to demand the ball more, he needs to post up low and show he can be the go to guy. Coaches need to help him by calling plays that get him the ball where he can do something with it Poor coaching.

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:09 a.m.

    Wow to the bandwagoners, since one game doth doom your whole season, check out how the former Jazz Vets on the New Jersey Jazz did last night againt Atlanta, I guess Dwill and Okur are all washed up as well.

    This team is not going to be good, hopefully they are in the hunt for a top 3 again and the GS pick slips ever so slighty out of the top 7, it's a deep draft this year.

    In the mean time focus on the future and please, please keep CJ on the bench after he bricks more than 3 shots.

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:06 a.m.

    Rumor Mill...Reported this morning in the LA papers...

    A package deal is being offered to several teams...Corbin, Miles, Harris, Jefferson, Bell and finally the Jazz GM for any considerations at all...anything offering will be considered, including for the popcorn boy who sells up and down the isles.

  • Captain Kanab, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    Also, Ute, What would Jimmer have done had we drafted him? Dont get me wrong I LOVE Jimmer, but We would have had to draft him at three. I dont know about you but i dont mind our number 3 pick pulling down double digit rebounds in every game coming off the bench. So tell me what your game plan would be if we had drafted him. Talk about a weak defense shoot first PG, plus he is much much slower that Harris.

  • Morgan Duel Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    December 27, 2011 - Coach Corbin - "It's one game. You can't panic,";

    February 27, 2012 - "For the last few games we have clearly been out played.";

    April 27, 2012 - "It has been a long season."

    What is the real problem? The Jazz do not have the money to build a real team like LA does. All the NBA cares about is Money and the players, this is a business I will go where the money is.

    No need to hang on to your hat, their is not going to be a storm.

  • oldasdirt Grantsville, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 9:00 a.m.

    Note to Jody: Keep up the good work. As painful as having to watch this on TV it must have been horrible to have been there.

  • Wiley Old School RIC, VA
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:59 a.m.

    Holy smokes, what a bunch of whiners. Guess what folks, it's 1979 again with a Jazz team that is going to win only a few games this season... but who is equipped to begin a nice improving trend over the next few years. Recalibrate your expectations and enjoy the progress they will make over the next few years.

  • Captain Kanab, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:57 a.m.

    Vince, Who would you have put in to defend him? CJ who you obviouly think is the worst player in the league? The rookie Burks, you're right he probably wouldnt have been nervous going up against a top 10 player ever in his NBA debut. So Coach Vince just exactly who would you have started?

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:52 a.m.

    Note to Jody: Stop reading the comments and keep up the swell coverage on the Utah Jazz. Now the debacle was not that bad. If Corbin could instill some confidence in his guys starting with Harris they might be ok. Harris was an all-star but has lost his mojo. He is one of the fastest points in the league - he needs to be pushing the team up the floor. I think they could make uncontested lay-ups.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    One thing I cannot endure again this year is C.J. Miles making excuses on this web for his boy or whatever the relationship is. This player just doesn't get it, absolutely zero mental smarts and less ability on either end of the floor for a 6 year vet than any player in Jazz history. Stop making excuses about shots riming out and get with it or get gone. True not many others did anything but Miles is a vet now not a diaper boy. Also Bell was probaly starting to defend Kobe, but how did that go? Get him gone also along with big Al. Why does Evans sit? Oh well it is just a game huh?

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    should have drafted Jimmer.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:34 a.m.

    Maybe if the players practiced more than playing union member trying to extort more money, they could have at least closed the gap that they lost by.

    Oh well. I gave up on professional sports a long time ago. The players don't have the passion or the love of the game. They just expect to be praised, worshipped and given a load of money to play a sport that most people play for fun.

    I'd rather spend the money on a nice vacation, rather than watching spoiled adults play the game.

  • akk2602 Sandy, Ut
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:28 a.m.

    Why does Favors only get 19 min? He had 4 fouls play him till he fouls out. I have no desire to watch Miles and Bell play. Hayward, Burks, Howard need to be on the floor as much as possible. When Jefferson doesn't shoot well give the playing times to someone else. Milsap needs to play 30-35 min a game. I don't care if he starts or comes off the bench. Make the point gaurds push the ball. If the don't put in the next one. Find a way to get evans on the floor even if some of it is at the 3.

  • Crotty Kid Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:26 a.m.

    Jody, since it looks like you check these you also put "We're snot satisfied". Hopefully they let you guys edit after an article has been posted because it's pretty normal to have small mistakes. Most other news organizations update articles but I haven't seen it done at DN.

  • Captain Kanab, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:26 a.m.

    Confused: You definatly are confused, so is anyone who thinks that Memo was not washed up. I hear everyone talking about how Jefferson is washed up and this and that, but he is far and beyond a better option that Okur. Okur hasnt had a good season since his all star season, but if he was on the team people would probably complain about him too. Next, D-Will, the two time all star, Do you honestly think that he wouldnt have left for free agency? Im not sure if you know the specs of that trade, but it was pretty heavely favored to the Jazz side. Harris, a one time all star PG, Favors (top 3 draft pick), two lottery picks and cash. Great decision in my book. Maynor is good but will always be a back up. Do you think that we would be in any better position with Maynor? Raja is an experianced proven NBA guard. He is far past his prime, but was a much better option than anyone else. No one has bothered Kobe more in his career that Raja. Its one bad game, probably a bad season. Im with you all the way Jazz!!

  • Ironman SANTA CLARA, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:23 a.m.

    NBA action, it's FANTASTIC!

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:21 a.m.

    CJ Miles is the biggest brick chucker in the entire league. His shot is horrible, usually way too hard and has no chance to go in. He plays no defense and doesn't rebound. Yeah, sounds like a player I would want on my team....

  • Crotty Kid Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:21 a.m.

    That was ugly. The bad part is this Lakers team is not very good and had been playing 3 nights in a row and the Jazz still got blown out. It's just one game but if I had to guess, the Jazz will have another number 3 pick this summer. The downfall of this current Jazz team started with not matching Wesley Matthews' offer from Portland. Even if Deron still left, he would have been great to build around. Instead we are stuck with Raja Bell who is likable but doesn't have much else going for him.

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:16 a.m.

    I think we all knew the Jazz were not going to win at Staples last night. Kobe, Gasol, Lakers 0-2, they were going to bring it. The Jazz are not the Jazz we have been spoiled with for the past 25 plus years. Here is what I got from the game:

    1- Devin Harris was horrible. Defensively he let Derek Fisher and Steve Blake blow by him time after time. Forget his off night shooting, at least bring some intensity. I think Ty should have just benched him.

    2- Millsap showed why he is a fan favorite. He is hurt and he played with intensity and led us in scoring.

    3- I won't pretend to be the coach. Ty Corbin knows more about professional bball than any of us, but with our youth and athleticism, it would be nice to see the Jazz run a little bit and push the ball

    4- Kanter gets blocked and stripped a lot, and missed a couple lay ups, for now I will give the benefit of the doubt to the 19 year old. I hope he turns out well though.

    Hopefully the Jazz sing a different tune tonight. Go Jazz.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:08 a.m.

    Okay everyone, let's all just calm down for a minute, okay?

    First of all, this was just one game.

    Second, this was a road game against a team which has had our number for quite some time.

    Third, it's going to take awhile for this new Jazz team to find it's footing. Even the most pro-Utah Jazz experts are predicting this team will finish either 9th or 10th in the West.

    Fourth, for those who say the Jazz's "Glory days are behind them," we all heard the exact same thing after Stockton and Malone retired. Some people said the Jazz would become the laughing stalk of the NBA for decades to come.

    Well, it didn't happen like that now did it? True, we haven't won any championships, but in the eight seasons since Stockton and Malone's last played for Utah, the Jazz have:

    - Finished the regular season at .500 or better six times.

    - Reached the playoffs four times

    - Won their division twice

    - Reached the second round of the playoffs three times

    - Reached the Western Conference Finals once

    Utah has bounced back before and they can do it again.

    My advice to Jazz fans is, "Patience."

    GO JAZZ!!!!!!

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 8:06 a.m.

    Well this is the type of game when the Jazz Management..

    Trades away Memo
    Trades away Williams
    Trades away Maynor

    Keep players like Bell, Jefferson, etc

    Well Greg thanks for wanting a "championship team". Larry H must be pleased...

  • I Bleed Blue Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    Hey everyone it's the Utah Clippers! Salt Lake City-Home of bad basketball.

  • sdunn Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:46 a.m.

    This team needs outside shooting badly. They have no outside threat. If they get some shooters that will open it up a little down low. Right now teams can just pack it down on the Jazz. Should have resigned Korver, even though he is not a great player least he spreads the floor. Beating a dead horse here but should have found a way to draft Jimmer. He is a horrible fit for the Kings. Need to trade one of the bigs preferably Jefferson, for shooting and don't wait forever to do it!

  • NotBuyingIt MIDVALE, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:46 a.m.

    This was beyond pathetic. It is one thing to lose. It is quite another to lose because you, seemingly, don't care if you win and aren't prepared to win. Note to Coach Corbin: You got the opportunity because you were the obvious choice and deserve the chance. And it was a popular choice. Don't blow it. Jazz fans will not tolerate a loser. And there are many coaches out there who are proven winners.

  • mike84501 HELPER, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:45 a.m.

    Look for more of the same this season. Until the Jazz get rid of O'Connor and Corbin they will never win a championship. Trading away Okur was the biggest mistake they could have made.

  • Unlucky HEBER CITY, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:41 a.m.

    Jazz fans this is what you will have for years. Lottery every year. Why?

    Derrick Favors will never be more than a Drew Gooden.
    Gordon Hayward never more than a Mike Dunleavy Jr.

    and those are your supposed cornerstones.

    Raja Bell, Devin Harris, and Al Jefferson are washed up. You say trade them, no one would want them.

    Kanter and Burks will be serviceable players for years, but the Jazz have no one that will ever be a star. To be a star you have to have a trmendous work ethic like Stockton and Malone. These players don't have that desire. You are routing for a team that will be lucky to win 20 games this year.

    I have read your banter with Portland Trailblazers and can only say he will get the last laugh and it will be long and loud.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    Lakers are Flakers and now Jazz are not Jazzy. This lockout was soooo greeeedy and who cares. Of course would love to see more of King Jimmer.

    Well, you can watch BYU for a change.

  • Jody Genessy
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:31 a.m.

    matthews23, if it makes you feel better to blame the loss on my "spotty work," go for it. My math skills and the deadline for this late, late game were brutal.

    Keep in mind, I was typing not knowing if an errant Jazz shot was going to hit me in the head, so I have that excuse.

  • Call_It_As_It_Is N. Salt Lake, Ut
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:20 a.m.

    The Jazz are straight-up embarrassing! I, for one, have no faith in Ty Corbin. Watching the Spazz play is like taking a bunch of chickens with their heads cut-off and throwing them on the basketball court..

    I know Corbin was put in at a bad spot last year, but there has to be some raw emotion, excitement, and head-bobbin' going on and Corbin is not the guy to command that kind of energy.

    Harris, Bell, Miles, Big Al....is this some kind of joke? I am disgusted with the lack of effort and energy on the court.. As someone already mentioned, thank the heavens for a shortened season, or that trade exception, whichever comes first.

    Corbin said, "You shoot shots and miss them, you don't score." Thanks Corbin.. Great insight!

  • Maverick West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:06 a.m.

    Good players...poor coaching!

  • MR Draper, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 7:00 a.m.

    CJ looks the same. Poor shot selection. More of a liability than an asset. Corbin is in way over his head. I wouldnt go Adrian Dantley over his head, but worst mistake the Jazz have made in a long time is signing him to a multi-year deal without an 'interim coach' period. Corbin wasnt going anywhere. Would have given the Jazz a chance to see what he would do. No set plays, pass around the perimeter until 10 seconds left, then dump it into the big to let them create their own shot. Bad bad bad.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 6:58 a.m.

    Who was the tired team? Nobody pushed the ball. Even the announcers at halftime told Tyrone to push the ball. Where is Sloan?

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 6:57 a.m.

    Gonna be a rough year for the NBA's budget team if this keeps up.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 6:51 a.m.

    Worst shooting effort by the team...does the team have a shooting coach...why?

    This team was totally unprepared to play in the league last night. When plan A did not work there seemed to be no plan B or C.

    For shame

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 6:24 a.m.

    Who are these guys? Not the Jazz I know. No offense, no defense, no heart and no passion. Young legs that won't run, won't "push the ball", won't run a pick and roll. What do they do in practice? Obviously not put the ball in the hoop. We've learned that Kanter can't hit from 6 inches out. CJ is doing a bit of masonry work laying bricks up. Milsap is upset that he's not starting but comes in and does absolutely nothing. Not a single bright spot on the floor. Certainly not a team worth wasting energy on by watching.

  • matthews23 Richmond, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 6:23 a.m.

    The Jazz lost 96-71, that's 25 points. If the previous season opening loss was 26 points to Dallas in 1986 as this article states then that still stands. This was not a worst ever game 1 loss for the Jazz. Maybe they would play harder/better if they knew they had better writers in the local paper instead of this spotty work. Also I'm trying to forget the wretched play by focusing on this, it's kind of working.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Dec. 28, 2011 6:05 a.m.

    The Globe Trotters have their theme song, "Sweet Georgia Brown" Last night the Jazz played their new theme, "Sleepwalk".

  • Honor Code Denver, Colorado
    Dec. 28, 2011 5:49 a.m.

    Small market and low man on the NBA roster, Utah Jazz glory days are over!

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    Dec. 28, 2011 5:45 a.m.

    Lakers had backs to wall being 0-2, and they were at home...but still, how sad the Jazz shooting was. Jefferson saying he started to press after missing a few, started putting up too many jumpers...doesn't sound like a positive veteran's reaction to me. The Jazz should put in Jeremy Evans, more, for one thing. CJ seemed to be lost on defense too often, Hayward seemed to be one person who was moving without the ball pretty well. Time to rebound tonight.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Dec. 28, 2011 4:43 a.m.

    if we go on a losing record this year...i hope its good bye corbin...the coaching staff he put up...aint going nowhere...and i think KOC should start rebuilding...i mean..come on...missed shots are something they can control...they should have adjusted...Howard should have started...Bell should accept the fact that He will be just a mentor for this team...nothing more...CJ..well...CJ usual self...but he included Free throws to his inconsistencies tonight...the young guns are still quite raw...and taking a beating like this must be a shot to their confidence...this will be a test for each and every young guy on that roster...how will they bounce back from a very horrible first game....

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 3:37 a.m.

    Raja Bell is not an NBA starter. He is washed up. Burks should start. Hayward is no starter either. CJ still has no desire or ability. This team is way in over its head. I doubt if Corbin has any clue either.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Dec. 28, 2011 3:34 a.m.

    I have gotten myself into the mode of looking forward to watching the young talent develop this season. That said, give effort please.

    I don't have illusions of grandeur this year. The losses will be many. Look for the Jazz to win 28 games. It's not the loss tonight that bothers me. It's the lack of intensity and being out hustled by an old team (Lakers) on the third leg of a back to back to back set.

    Come on Jazz.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 1:02 a.m.

    Losing to the 0-2 Lakers who are playing their third game in three nights can't be good right?

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:48 a.m.

    Harris is a joke at this point in his career. Until Jefferson and Harris are traded, the Jazz will not be a playoff team. And stop the Burkes talk. He is not going to help this team win games.

    Bell is not an NBA caliber player at this point in his career. cut him. Stop wasting valuable minutes on him.

    CJ may have shot bad but his misses were all inside the rim. Most of the team flat out shot bricks. His shots at least had a chance to go in.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:36 a.m.

    We still have college ball. Tonight was the most boring Jazz game I have ever seen. What a downer for the fans. What have we done to end up like this? I will find something else to watch for a while awaiting better news. Watching a game like this leaves me depressed.

  • SportsFan101 Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:18 a.m.

    And CJ can score? 1-7 or something? He needs to go. So do quite a few others.

  • Dukester VANCOUVER, WA
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:06 a.m.

    Oh my goodness! What a performance. I wonder if they can get any worse! Pehaps we should not get our hopes up and think we might have anything to cheer about this year.

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:05 a.m.


    Too funny.

    Lakers lose to the Sacramento Kings last night...

    Portland destroys Sac Town by 22 tonight! HAHAHA

    Jazz are terrible, I say save the Jazz fans grief, time and money and just move the team to either Seattle or Kansas City already. Hahaha

    What an embarassment to be a Jazz fan and watch the jazz on TNT and get worked like they did! Too funny, hahaha

    This is going to be a looooooooooong season for the Jazz. hahahaha

    Ya know its sad and bad when your best player starts on the bench, hahahaha.

    Don't look now, but here come the Nuggets, they just beat the Mavericks.

    1. OKC
    2. Spurs
    3. Clippers
    4. Lakers
    5. Blazers
    6. Memphis
    7. Mavericks (they look terrible)
    8. Denver
    9. New Orleans
    10. Timberwolves
    11. Houston
    12. Phoenix
    13. Golden State
    14. Sacramento
    the landfill
    Tulsa 66ers
    Utah Utes men team
    15. Jazz

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Dec. 28, 2011 12:03 a.m.

    Raja Bell, Al Jefferson, C J Miles, Devin Harris, Tyrone Corbin? Some big questions going forward with this rebuilding project.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Dec. 27, 2011 11:53 p.m.

    Jerry Jr at his best. Down 10 at halftime. Comes out with same lame, no passion starters who in the next 8 minutes turn it into a 27 point blowout and Jerry Jr. hasn't called a timeout or made one substitution. Nice coaching.. Al Jefferson is horrible for any team. No defense, no anything. I like Favors. Hayward, Bell and Harris can not score. The movement was horrible with them on the floor.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    Can't wait for draft night.
    Jazz should get 2 lotto picks if GS pick falls.

    Jazz have no outside shooting. Harris seemed like the best outside shooter, and he was even terrible.

    Miles 1-7
    Big Al 2-16

    J. Evans scored as much as Big Al in a fraction of the time

  • Millsap fan Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 11:33 p.m.

    Millsap clearly should start. I like Favors but he hasn't proven himself when it really matters. In fact, Millsap may be the only reliable player right now. START MILLSAP!

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 11:23 p.m.

    Do we still own our first round pick this year?

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 11:17 p.m.

    The Jazz lack leadership...they lack organization...they are lost...they lack desire...they lack coaching...the jazz lack...lack and lack.

    However, they do not lack being embarrassed...they young bucks are being taken to the woodshed by veterans that know how to play...

    Is the season over yet?

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 11:00 p.m.

    Do we have a game plan? All I see are Jazz players tossing the ball around until the shot clock ticks down and then we force up a bad shot. I'm not expecting greatness early in the season but we at least need to run some plays. I'm hard pressed to see any bright spots in this game but I still expect to see this team get better later in the year.

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 10:54 p.m.

    This is truly ugly.

    Thank goodness they only have to play 66 games this season instead of the usual 82.


  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Dec. 27, 2011 10:43 p.m.

    Where is the emotion and passion? Not one player is playing with any desire in this game. Pathetic for a season opener!!