Yep.Another day and BYU fans are grasping for lolly pops again.Like
I said. The talk of BYU joining a BCS conference allegedly revolves around two
sinking conferences.How about reaching out to a stable conference for
once? At least the WCC is stable.
Bluto:"You have no idea with whom Tom Holmoe has spoken to nor
any details therein. He has clearly indicated tha the has been speaking with
Conferences (plural) for months now."Uh...please provide a
Cut-&-Paste clip of a post where I said Holmoe hadn't been speaking with
other conferences. If you can't do that, then I don't know what your point or
argument is. All I said was that Big East officials did not visit the Y. If
they really DID, then by all means....provide me with the name of the article
that verifies that, and don't forget to include the name of the publication and
the date of the story.Until then, don't talk to me about accuracy.
I looked. I saw nothing in the way of reports that suggest Big East officials
were in Provo last week."They are a Marketable National Brand,
which 2 Conferences have indeed been interested in."But not all
THAT interested, were they? I'm assuming you meant the Big XII - who did NOT
invite the cougars - and the Big East, who at present, had not invited them
either. I'm only dealing in facts here. Prove me wrong.
TrueBlue:"Actually, Big East officials did visit BYU last
week."And how do you know this? How do you know they were in
Provo? How do you know what was said between their officials and yours. I
googled "BYU Big East Provo invite" and I saw NOTHING that supports
your version of events. What do you have to back yours up?Prediction: Nothing. At your request, I can provide you with the
google keywords linking you to the ESPN report that said Big East officials
stopped in Colorado Springs and Boise, but that article said nothing about any
stops in Provo? How could ESPN have missed that detail. Why does it appear
that it isn't a secret for the Big East to pursue BSU, AFA, SMU, UH, UCF, and
USNA, but everything is all hush-hush whenever it pertains to the cougars?Did you just frantically and emotionally make that up?
NightOwlAmerica"What is BYU doing?"Denver
Post: 11/04/2011The Big East is expected to extend invitations to
six schools: Boise State, Air Force and Navy for football only, and Houston, SMU
and Central Florida for all sports, possibly as soon as today.David
Cannon, director of public affairs at the Air Force Academy, said Thursday there
has been no contact with Big East officials since a meeting in Colorado Springs
more than a week ago.Boise State university president Bob Kustra
indicated the final decision for Boise State could hinge on the Big East's
ability to add a western segment to the conference in order to have two,
six-team divisions and a championship game. Officials at BYU confirmed there
have been discussions with the Big East.----------BYU
could very well be the lynch pin in the Big East's expansion plans and their
goal to remain a BCS AQ conference after 2013.Carry on with your
fantasy of BYU sitting on the sidelines doing nothing while the college football
landscape changes around them.
CordonBleu said:"San Diego State has said they'd like to be in
the Big 12 or Big East, but neither conference has shown even the slightest
interest in the Aztecs.Go back to your tree hugging."Wrong, officials from the Big12 pointed out that San Diego St. could be an
inroad to CA recruiting.Interesting you point out SD St. reaching out to
BCS conferences. What is BYU doing? Nothing.Carry on with your
fantasy BYU sports.
@tomahawk redJust another poor and desperate utah "fan"
praying with all her might that BYU will somehow fail. pathetic. LOL!I'm very happy with independence by the way. I don't want BYU to join a
conference. Yes I know that utah "fans" cannot understand this and
that is because utah is pathetic program that would fail if not propped up by
greater institutions, just like BYU has propped them up for the last 40 years.
You view things through the prism of a program that cannot stand on its own. But
for those of us that support a program that can stand on its own it is a feeling
of.....freedom. It's exiliharating. You wouldn't understand. Go back
to your dependency and leave self sufficiency to the big boys.
NightOwlAmerica San Diego State has said they'd like to be in the
Big 12 or Big East, but neither conference has shown even the slightest interest
in the Aztecs.Go back to your tree hugging.
Duckhunter | Highland, UTJoining the big east is not
attractive enough for BYU to leave independence and join. Yes the big east
wanted BYU for this western division, boise and air force were pushing very
hard, BYU said no. Haters and insecure BYU fans can believe what they want but
that is what's happened here.------------There are just
no words that can even come close to fully describing the Alice in Wonderland
fantasy world you live in.Just no words.BYU has received
absolutely no invite to either the Big XII or the Big East, and every single
official/source on this issue has said so. Yet, for reasons none of us will ever
understand, you choose to simply make up information and pass them off as facts.
In fact, I'll bet even you are starting to believe the off-the-wall trash you
shovel.It's unbelievable, really. And a ringing example of why so
many U (and even some Y) fans can't tolerate your posts on this board. But above
all, it's a shining example of why so many endless fans everywhere absolutely
LOVE to hate BYU and their fans.I've just never seen such delusional
SyracuseCoug | 12:21 p.m. Nov. 2, 2011 Syracuse, UtI would much
rather be in the Big East-West conference with a chance to play for a BCS bowl
every year and make bank in television revenue than to endure another year of
this Independence experiment.-------------Finally... a
BYU fan who has the guts to admit it.The rest of you agree
wholeheartedly, but aren't willing to say it publicly."Quite
frankly, I like BYU as an independent..."Please.
CougarKeith | 11:49 a.m. Nov. 2, 2011 Roy, UTBoise is getting
shafted not including all their sports!They could get a lot of
decent schools, like Fresno, Nevada, Hawaii, Utah State, Texas El Paso, maybe
steal a TEXAS TECH-------A) BSU brings absolutely
nothing of value to any conference with their non-football athletics.B) What motivation in the world would Texas Tech have for jumping ship from an
elite conference (Big XII) and joining a conference (Big East) that could be
dead in 2 years.
Uteanymous said:""The other school the Big East is
speaking with is San Diego St."Cite your source.Of
course you don't have one, so you should have gone with Portland State, at least
you might have appeared to have an "inside" source."CBS Sportsline, KLSD Radio.Go back to your green jello.
I don't see BYU receiving an invite to Big East especially with the football
schedule we are playing as an independent. Realistically, beyond getting an
invite from Big 12 conference (which has religious owned school in its
conference, in Baylor University) its a mirage for any invite to a BCS
conference for BYU. If BYU is emulating what Notre Dame did in football
independence than schedule only games against teams from BCS conferences. That
will raise the caliber of play by BYU and in turn raise revenues generated by
football and demonstrate that BYU can play or compete with the best and be
eligible to be in a BCS bowl as an indepdendent.
NightOwlAmerica "The other school the Big East is speaking with
is San Diego St."Cite your source.Of course you
don't have one, so you should have gone with Portland State, at least you might
have appeared to have an "inside" source.
Why does the talk of BYU joining a conference always revolve around those that
are failing?Don't BYU fans have higher goals for their team, like joining
a stable conference perhaps.
The other school the Big East is speaking with is San Diego St.
Phoenix, I'm pretty sure it's not the Fighting Hornets of Sacramento State, huh?
The Idaho State Board of Education has given Boise State permission to pursue
membership with the Big East Conference. The board voted 7-1 Thursday to give
university president Bob Kustra the authority to move Boise State's football
program out of the Mountain West Conference and into the Big East for the 2013
season. Boise State's entry into the Big East carries a critical
caveat.Kustra told the state board -- and board members agreed --
that the formation of a Western division is essential to joining the conference.
Kustra suggested that SMU, Houston, Air Force and one other western school could
make up that division. He DECLINED to IDENTIFY any other western schools that
ARE NOW IN TALKS with Big East officials.Even our resident doubting
Thomas should be able to identify which other western school Kustra is talking
@NavalOrangeU still can't let it go can you?Do you have a bet
against your house that BYU has never spoken to, had discussions with or been
invited to, a BCS Conference?You have no idea with whom Tom Holmoe
has spoken to nor any details therein.He has clearly indicated that
he has been speaking with Conferences (plural) for months now.And
just what do think they are discussing, Einstein? Green Jello vs Funeral
Potatoes, for the next Relief Society gathering?Grow up. Your
narratives have not been accurate for well over a year now.Rick
Pitino said last week, that the Big East Commissioner has been in talks with 7
teams, including BYU, and has either visited or spoken with each school, Pitino
then said "Go get all of them".If BYU remains Independent,
it will be because they choose to protect their new found gains and are not
willing to go back to the bad old days. 10 ESPN games is hard to beat.They'll decide what they want to do (your silly diatribes to the contrary).
They are a Marketable National Brand, which 2 Conferences have indeed been
interested in.Learn to live with it.
@Navy BoyWhy the hatred? Why claim something you obviously have no
knowledge of? Tom Holmoe and company will set you straight just like they did
with the Big 12.You are so desperate... like your team?
Naval Vet"Last week, the Big East visited Boise State and Air
Force. But they did NOT visit the Y."Actually, Big East
officials did visit BYU last week. In fact, the meeting was cordial
and BYU officials listened intently to the Big East's presentation, but gave no
indication whether BYU was interested in accepting a football-only invitation to
the Big East.
@naval lintYou sure are desperate to claim no one ever talks to BYU
ever. I happen to know for a fact that Big East officials did visit and talk to
BYU officials during the last several days. BYU basicly told them no thanks. I find it amusing how desperate you are over all of this. LOL!
Bluecat82 | 11:50 a.m. Nov. 2, 2011 IF the Big East (or the Big 12...or
really anybody else not named the Pac 12, since geography doesn't seem to matter
anymore) needs to replace a school on very short notice (say, because of a
lawsuit, perhaps), they know that BYU will still be there.The
Cougars are, in essence, every conference's check down receiver.-----end of discussion.
I remember hearing that the Mountain West will only allow "full"
membership only (i.e., all sports, a member can't be independent or affiliate
with another conference for football only). If that's true, Boise and Air Force
will need to find another conference.
TrueBlue:"BYU was visited by Big East officials last
week"Not so. Last week, the Big East visited Boise State and
Air Force. But they did NOT visit the Y.
Frankly, I think joining an AQ conference should be the least of BYU's concern
at this point so I wish all this speculation would stop. I prefer that they
concentrate first on winning, especially against tough competition that they are
able to schedule as independence right now. Forget about BCS conferences,
national championships, etc, etc. Just win guys, especially the big games on
national tv. Do that and all else will fall into place. It makes no sense to
keep talking about joining a BCS conference when we can't stop getting exposed
and be humiliated on national tv. It's the not the kind of exposure I care to
watch. We must first work to gain respect by winning against meaningful
competition. Short of that, we'll still continue to be disrespected, mocked,
and lambasted by those who hate us.
Do the people writing the headlines read the articles? I'm not sure what to make
@vegasbart your unlv team is pretty relevant huh? LOL thats a joke just like
that program. quit posing to be from vegas like your not a byu fan. just admit
your a byu fan and you cant stand to see ANYONE talk about your little school it
hurts your feelings huh?
The Deuce 10:33Have you looked at the 2013 scheduleHome
Games in place:TexasBoise StateGeorgia TechUtahAway Games in PlaceHawaiiUtah StateNotre DameHoustonCurrently under consideration to Fill out scheduleNebraska, Ohio State, Penn StateI agree the first two years are
terrible but it will be worth the wait and BYU is getting paid to play the cup
cakes this year and next.Go independant Cougars
Yawwwwn. Oh, wait, there's a wolf in the sheep? Eh, give it a rest. BYU is not going anywhere until they are willing to play by the rules and be
part of a conference. Not saying independence is necessarily bad for BYU, but
if it does want to joint a conference, BYU is going to have to make some
concessions and be a team player. Don't see that happening in the near future,
and until then all this talk of being invited to this or that conference is
To: BYU Joe | 11:17 a.m. Nov. 2, 2011 MISSION VIEJO, CA - you made the following
statement: "Maybe the feeling of joyful Infependence is due to being free
from the clutches of the Mountain and all the second rate schools we used to
live with. (no Utah I'm not talking about you - stop being so
narcassitic)". Did you look at the schedule for this year's season before
you made this statement? The schedule is not full of top-tier programs. Maybe
it's time to rethink independence and look to a conference thatr can offer
something other than playing Idaho State and the Univ. of Idaho.
RedUte and all the others...Speaking of salt...Ha, ha.
Your poor team has lost its savor hasn't it and the several of you just can't
get enough of BYU? Well, that's understandable during these difficult Ute
times.Tom Holmoe will be spilling the beans soon enough.Try as you will, BYU still relevant with or without a conference invite or
association.1-4, yeehaw, that's the ticket to Pasadena.
Another lame "bait" article and trolls and cougars continue to take
the bait.BYU will not go BCS unless Notre Dame does the same. Recently Notre Dames coach stated that he was emphatic about staying
independant, Why? Recruiting thats why. Athlon sports reported this
week that Notre Dame is a big winner in recruiting specifically because they
play nationwide, they are televised nationwide and thus they have success
recruiting natiowide. This is a formula that will work for BYU as
well. BYU and Notre Dame are partners in independance. Don't look
for either to go BCS alone and don't waste your time looking for a BYU invite to
a BCS conferance its not going to happen. Conferences do not invite unless they
know the invite will be accepted and accepting such is not the best long term
for BYU football.Forget this BCS garbage. What are the Cougars
talking to the Big 12 and Big East about? November games thats what.
"What happens to the BYU psyche if the Big East expands and never even
offers an invite? Talk about salt in the wound." The question
will be whether or not the Big East media partners are willing to allow BYU to
televise all games not picked up by the conference's TV contract. I also think
that BYU will come in with some lofty demands for No. of games televised through
the conference's contract.Much like the Big 12, if these demands
aren't met there will be no deal to be had. The only reason this seems more
likely it's it's for football only and Sunday play is not an issue.
sportsfanforlife | 8:25 p.m. Nov. 2, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT "why dont you win a football game worth talkin about then you can claim
yourself as a half decent program"The irony is too much! The
only game Utah has won that is worth talking about is... BYU. So, are we worth
talking about, or not? As long as SOMEONE says SOMETHING about BYU
joining a BCS conference, the DN will wrap an article around it, I'll read it,
to see if anything has changed (it hasn't). This much is understandable. The
really puzzling part is - why oh why do Ute fans read them? And then comment?
That is truly funny, as in borderline worthy of medication.What are
the secrets of negotiation? I don't pretend to know them for real, but seems to
me Not Being Desperate is one of them. Not Publicly Tipping Your Hand probably
ranks up there. I am content to let the BYU team negotiate in secret, and
amused to read the idle speculation by the haters and the paranoid.
The best for the Y is to stay indy. They schedule many bcs schools, which will
end with the death of the bcs. Two years, you can see the cracks in the system
right now. You have so many schools that are willing to belong and get a check
from the conferences for being the doormat and providing the other schools
"quality" wins. Remember that to loose to a bcs team does not count
against the looser because it is a quality team.Look at the u, all
of their fans don't worry about loosing all of the pac10.2 games because they
belong. $$$ coming in from the conference after taking two years of beating.
Will they be still there after two?The money the y has coming is not
dependant on any conference ok or voting. They are the captain of their ship and
will inform the public when necessary. Being confident and in control drives the
insecure crazy.As to u fans, the y will never be equal because while
the u is loosing all of those games(quality loss's) the y will be winning, weak
teams? You take it for what it is worth.
Just an opinion, but BYU would sacrifice some its values by joining a
conference. They made several agreements.- For example, TCU broke it's word by
leaving the Big East. For me, it's better to keep your word than jump ship as
they did.There must be integrity when developing sport programs.
I hear BYU is joining the WAC, they already have five of their teams on the
schedule it seems so let's just complete the set and win a conference trophy.
We're watching things down here in Vegas. Not sure what's best for Brigham
Young, but the notion that the MWC is on the skids is quite true. But Utah
fans, quit talking about who is relevant and who isn't. I've checked your
football, soccer, & volleyball scores, and I see nothing that makes us think
that you are even remotely relevent.
@midpacmajor no whats really hilarious is listening to all you delusional byu
fans think you know everything and actually thinking your relevant. the only
reason ppl come on these boards outside of delusional byu fans is to make fun of
you for how ignorant you sound with ANYTHING that has to do with football at
all. why dont you win a football game worth talkin about then you can claim
yourself as a half decent program
@ Brave Sir Robin | 3:40 p.m. Nov. 2, 2011They are all part of the
same non-profit conglomerate. So does it really matter?
What happens to the BYU psyche if the Big East expands and never even offers an
invite? Talk about salt in the wound.
Big east is it. In the Big 12 BYU is a dorrmat like Utah in the PAC 12. In the
Big East the west division would rul the day with Houston, Boise, and BYU. Stay
put in the WCC with other sports but play some home and away rotations with Big
East B-ball schools. 3-4 a year sounds about right. HUGE exposure to voters on
the polls which come primarily from the east coast. Huge markets wondering how
BYU did this week as they might play them in a championship game and share the
same conferance. TV contract will be bigger by a few million than their current
ESPN contract. Set schedule with old rivals (AF) and new rivals (BSU,Houston).
Markets include Dallas, Houston, and the massive east Coast markets. Much
better then Ames Iowa, Manhattan Kansas. or even OK City. This is win win for
BYU. Big east starts own network for 3rd tier games and with coast to coast
teams get coast to coast coverage. Every game would be on tier 1 (ESPN), tier 2
(regional fox channel with nationwide coverage)or BE network (again nationwide
coverage except maybe west coast) Do it BYU, PLEASE!
Dave S"Just wondering how it feels to be so wanted and
loved??"Why, are you feeling unwanted and unloved?Suggestion: Get off the couch, go upstairs, and give your mom a hug.
Frankly my dear I don't care that I'm not wanted by the wacky-12, the
lonestar10, the bigwash10, the sec the acc and perhaps the big east..... We of
ourselves have told people we don't want them..... We ditched the whacky wac and
the mediocre and falling mountain west. Leaving the wac and MWC was the best
things ever done. Craig Thompson is a failure. His network is crap and his
teams, well, even with conference USA coming into the picture aren't all that
good. Just cuz of numbers doesn't mean an auto bid. The people of CUSA and MWC
are fools if they think 30 teams of blah will get them any more than they have
today. Notice how the big east is intentionally taking all the teams of merit
from those two lousy conferences? It is okay not to be wanted. We just want to
play football and we don't care who it is against. If it is included among the
pride and vain things of the world fine. If not, even the Master himself was
content in his circle of friends.
@ patriot 12h29pmLet me see if I can get this straight about the
BYU-Boise State comparison. For almost as long as I can remember, BYU has
scheduled 2-3 teams from BCS conferences each season. Over the years, they have
played just about every major team in the USA-some several times to include:
USC, Notre Dame, Florida State, Texas, UCLA, Washington, Georgia, Miami, Boston
College, Virginia, Syracuse, Texas A&M, Stanford, Wisconsin, Arizona, Ole
Miss, Oklahoma, Cal, Alabama, Houston, Penn State, Kansas State, Iowa, Pitt,
Colorado, Oregon State, Georgia Tech, Oregon, etc. They have won a few and lost
a few, but always aggressively scheduled against top teams. On the
other hand, Boise State has averaged approximately one BCS opponent each year
for the past decade (not counting BCS opponents in bowl games). For example,
Georgia is their only BCS opponent this year, last year they had both Virginia
Tech and Oregon State. In prior seasons, they have played both Oregon and
Washington as their only BCS opponent. 2005 they played UGA and OregonState and
lost both.BYU played 4 BCS teams 2011 and have 5 in 2012.Personally like BSU, but hard to compare schedules with BYU.
Just wondering how it feels to be so wanted and loved??
Everything is contingent upon...-No Sunday play (no problem for
Football only)-Exposure (ESPN contract will need to be
preserved in some way...10 ESPN games this year)-Same Day Game
Replays (Fans all over the Country and Internationally demand this)If these conditions can be met, then it is a no brainer.Advantages...-Built in schedule w/ Boise St., Air Force,
Houston, SMU, Louisville and cross over gamesw/UConn,
Navy, UCF, S. Florida, Cincinatti, Rutgers November schedule
instantly improves-League Championship game in Yankee or Jerry's
Stadium.BYU can still play 3-4 non-league games a year, Notre Dame,
Texas, Utah, Georgia Tech etc.With a Western Division, Travel is not
bad at all.Exposure in the Eastern Time Zone. Unmatched.BCS access with a "realistic chance" of playing in a BCS Bowl now
and again.2nd, 3rd, and 4th place bowls are better as well.This is the Ideal, Football only, all other Sports stay in the WCC which is
where BYU really fits, with perhaps the exception of B-ball, and even that is
not bad at all.Let's hope this is not a Tuloane moment for BYU.(Tulane voluntarily withdrew from the SEC).
I know I tease about BYU and everything... But in all reality BYU fans deserve
Holmoe coming out publicly and telling the BYU fans what is going on with the
conference realignment, what is their plans, do they want to stay indy etc. If
Utah was in BYUs situation it would be driving me crazy that nothing is being
said. BYU fans deserve an explanation.
I used to listen to Rome in the early 90's when he was just on in San Diego but
I cannot claim an education in smack from the "Huge One" as he called
himself back then. This whole alignment thing has us all crazy with
a desire for acceptance and our need to feed the hope that we will again win a
National Championship. In many ways that 1984 NC was the best and worst thing
that every happened to Cougar football (Beside Sean Covey, Ben Olson and Harvey
Unga not being here last year) We forever will feel that we must get
back to the Championship Game or else we are complete failures. The moment we
lose a game the whole season is a wash and we start looking to next year. It a desire for acceptance on a lot of levels - and we if we can't get
it from others we will make it up ourselves. I love that about BYU but it also
drives me to the bottle. Okay maybe not "the" bottle but I am
considering it if we don't get this thing finished soon.
sportsfanforlifeThere's nothing more hillarious than BYU-obsessed
Utah trolls spamming BYU blogs with juvenile claims that BYU is irrelevant. If
BYU was sooooo irrelevant, none of U would even be reading this article, let
alone commenting on it.
BYU, ND, Navy, Army and AF need to make there own Indy Conf. Football only.they can let ESPN do all the negotiating, problem solved. BCS access threw the
ND option. They all play each other every year, making a great schedule..
BYU fans just need to be patient. It'll all work out in the end; potentially
much better than many are speculating.For a more detailed discussion
of why the Door to the Big East is Wide Open for BYU, including references, and
why BYU hasn't walked through that door, yet, see PlanetBYU.
BYU Joe, your post sounded a lot like something I would hear on the Jim Rome
Show in the Jungle. Are you an avid fan of his show? Did you receive training
from the smack that is daily pushed through that show? 3 Thumbs up!
@Truth MachineI'm making fun of the Deseret News, not BYU. Reading
@b c noone is pretending byu is irrelevant they showed the world how irrelevant
they are all on their own last game.
As a Ute fan I can honestly say that I for one, hope for an eventual BYU AQ
conference invite. I would hate to see the state of Utah lose a storied program
like the Cougars to a slow fade into obscurity through a failed bid for
independence. That said, I wish BYU and TCU would've cooled their jets
and waited for a full season in the MWC to unfold. IMHO, the Big East would have
folded and the MWC would be poised to pick up their AQ status. I could then
watch Boise and BYU play the Aztecs here every other year.
patriot"all this talk is just speculation without any
substance... just ask Holmoe"You pretend to be such an
authority, but in reality your speculation is no more substantive that the
thousands of other fans out their speculating.Here's what's really
going on:--Holmoe and BYU's administration are keenly aware of how
the college football landscape is changing and the potential long term impact
those changes could have on the BYU football program--BYU has been
involved in discussions with the Big 12 for months--BYU was visited by Big
East officials last week--The fact that an official invitation to join the
Big 12 or the Big East hasn't been extended to BYU, yet, has nothing to do with
not being wanted, but everything to do with BYU being unwilling to just roll
over and accept an invitation that isn't in BYU's best interests
Joining the big east is not attractive enough for BYU to leave independence and
join. The big12 was iffy for that matter. Yes the big east wanted BYU for this
western division, boise and air force were pushing very hard, BYU said no.
Haters and insecure BYU fans can believe what they want but that is what's
happened here. I understand the haters desperately scanning these articles
daily, praying for BYU to not join one of these conferences because their self
worth as a fanbase is for utah to be in a bcs conference and BYU not to be. What I don't understand is the paranoid BYU fans who think BYU has to
join one of these conferences. They don't. Period. The only way they ever will
is if they can get everything they want in the way of concessions. If not they
are better off independent and will remain independent. The facts
are BYU is where they choose to be. What they are getting is better than any of
the scenarios that have been speculated about. It is better than the big 12, it
is better than the big east. Haters and paranoids don't get it. BYU does.
Bulletin:BYU just became irrelevant!
This is an interesting idea; at first I thought there was NO WAY I'd want to see
BYU join the Big East-- but if the Big East were to keep it's automatic bid, and
not die with further conference expansion, it might be something serious to look
at.It's a much easier road to a BCS game through the Big East than the Big
12. But with the way conferences are moving to 16 teams and an eventual playoff,
I don't know that the Big East will even exist in the next 5 years.
re:UfanI actually think it would be great if the Y were to get
invited and join the BIG 12 conference - great for the Y , the U and the entire
state. However, all this talk is just speculation without any substance... just
ask Holmoe. As I said - I personally think it is a long short for Y to get an
invite. If there was interest in the Y something would have happened already.
Instead - the U goes to the Pac 12 and TCU goes to the BIG 12. Now the BIG East
is adding Airforce and others. Soon the door will be shut and the Y will still
be independent with no BCS conference.
Counter Intelligence, that would be Boston...Oh, wait...the Boston
Globe mentioned the possibility of BYU to the Big East a few days ago, didn't
they?Eastport, Maine, perhaps? :)
"Big East Expanding buy BYU Staying Put."Do they really
have a choice?
what an odd title. Where did BYU say they were staying put?
RedUte"Honestly, the discusson as to where BYU is heading is a
joke."Then why are you discussing it? The real joke is
BYU-obsessed haters, trying to pretend that BYU is irrelevant.
Patriot"I have to wonder who keeps seeding the rumor mill with
all these conference alignment talks about BYU. BYU isn't going anywhere - no
one is interested in adding BYU and BYU isn't interested in joining."I have to wonder why there are so many insecure Utah fans who feel so
threatened by the meer mention of BYU joining a BCS conference. You're full of
hyperbole, but empty of substance.
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Honestly, the discusson as to where BYU is heading is a joke. I think it is
fairly clear, except to BYU, that their program is neither desired or respected
by many conferences. BYU's temper tantrum last year over Utah's move to the Pac
12 showed many that they are too much of a pre-madonna to effectively add much
value to any conference. Had BYU played it's cards right and been humble over
the years, I do think they would have had a much greater chance at being
included in the current conference realignment. Unfortunately, their
"Hollier than Though" attitude has put their atheltic program in
ruins.So be it.
I really hope that BYU would NOT turn down an offer from the Big East. I know
that we all wish that the Big 12 had asked us to join. But they didn't. What are
we going to do. Sit home and cry? No! We go to a BCS conference and play well!
We show that they made a mistake.Bottom line.. being in the Big
East would be the best of our options right now. It beats being indy. It also
gives us leverage to negotiate with the Big 12 some day if we do well there.
BYU is better off waiting as an Indy rather than joining the sure-to-fail (way
to) Big East
Read any of the East Coast newspapers; BYU is never mentioned in any of the
expansion articles. This is only a local driven news item that on a daily basis
teases the fans.
CougarKeith,Woah, buddy, Boise and Hawaii are the only two in that
group to ever play in BCS games and Hawaii lost miserably. Boise by itself is
not going to get a new conference BCS consideration. You're way too optimistic,
if you think that conference would get a sniff from that BCS. Boise would have
to keep playing like they are for another 4 or 5 years and one or two of the
others would have to step it up as well.
Cougar Keith:It is best to stop drinking the Kool-Aid or smoking
whatever it is you smoke up in Roy. We are dying to get into a conference
with Texas/Oklahoma and you are talking UTEP and Montana. I imagine Texas Tech
will sign right up for that glorious "conference of champions" (note
the small caps).As for the "decent schools" like Fresno
and Utah State or the power house known as Eastern Washington - I almost have
nothing to say except you make me want to be a Ute fan - and that's saying
something because I won't allow any shade of red in my house (Christmas colors
here are Gold, Green and Silver - red is of the devil) Yet your
genius post makes me think I need to reconsider why Utes everywhere go nuts when
some BYU fans open the old pie hole. Boise, Nevada, Fresno, Hawaii
and BYU is worthy of an automatic bid? - Yeah to to the looney bin. Which is
were I'm headed right now to get me own dome checked for damage caused by
hitting my head against the computer screen.Please Tom Holmoe end
this nightmare. Save me from this crazy world.
BYU is very smart to not be anxious to jump quickly out of the Indy ship. In
it's inagural year it's made it's mark in ratings. BYU is not floundering or
dependent on share the revenue schemes. Conference realignment is
not a good bet right now. Don't jump into sinking ships. BYU is secure for the
next 8 years. Greed is rampant in the NCAA. No one will be happy for a long
period of time.
I have to wonder who keeps seeding the rumor mill with all these conference
alignment talks about BYU. BYU isn't going anywhere - no one is interested in
adding BYU and BYU isn't interested in joining. There may be speculators out
there that keep these rumors going but until Tom Holmoe or the AD of the BIG 12
or BIG East or whatever makes an "OFFICAL" announcement about BYU
being under strong consideration then this is all just hot air. Here are the
reason why I think BYU will NOT be added to any BCS conference...1.
BYU carries too much baggage. No sunday play, LOADS of lds mission
considerations and exemptions, etc... Now they also have their own TV network to
wrestle with. 2. I think the BCS is headed for Sunday play in the near
future. 3. BYU's poor record against BCS schools doesn't help any. Compare
Boise St. against BYU and you can see why Boise is always ranking high and is
now probably headed to a BCS conference. I do think that BYU is in
danger - if they stay independent - of not being able to compete money wise in
the very near future.
Quite frankly, I like where BYU is right now. Why share revenue with a bunch of
other teams? MWC feasted on BYU TV revenue, than regulated it. Oh, the breath of
I would much rather be in the Big East-West conference with a chance to play for
a BCS bowl every year and make bank in television revenue than to endure another
year of this Independence experiment. Bronco said it himself, he wants BCS
access. Its not as cool as the Big 12 or the Pac 12, but hey, its better than
the MWC or playing WAC teams every November in Independence. I don't think the
Big East will lose it AQ status, where would it go? Not the MWC or C-USA.
There would be too much fallout from the eastern media and sports market.Just my opinion.
Thanks for the breaking news update, DesNews. In other breaking news
that is BYU related: BYU won't join the SEC yet. Also, BYU won't Join the Big
XII yet. Uh oh.... wait a minute! This just in: BYU won't join the PAC 12 yet.
Also, BYU is not planning to become a nation-unto-itself and
announce secession from America, yet. Did I miss anything BYU
related that hasn't happened yet? Stay tuned tomorrow....
Gotta give two thumbs up to BYU Joe, for using the phrase "..you cold cruel
woman" in his amusing post.The Big East would be a good deal -
if the East Coast weren't 2,000 miles away! I hope Boise State doesn't join for
the same reason.
Not sure why anyone's shocked at this...The Big East expects to
still have Pitt, Syracuse, AND West Virginia for another 27 months...(as said elsewhere, though, "BOOM goes the lawsuit" regarding the
Mountaineers...stay tuned on that one, kids...)IF the Big East (or
the Big 12...or really anybody else not named the Pac 12, since geography
doesn't seem to matter anymore) needs to replace a school on very short notice
(say, because of a lawsuit, perhaps), they know that BYU will still be there.The Cougars are, in essence, every conference's check down receiver.Sort of like the nice guy/girl that's always available for the prom.
I think BYU should hold out for the Big XII myself! The Big East is a Dying
Conference and will be the leftovers of Conference USA and the Shafted Schools
of Craig Thompson in the Mountain West Conference! That is what they will be!
Boise is getting shafted not including all their sports! They need to talk to
BYU about forming ANOTHER Conference! They could get a lot of decent schools,
like Fresno, Nevada, Hawaii, Utah State, Texas El Paso, maybe steal a TEXAS
TECH, bring in Montana and an Eastern Washington and potentially Weber State?
Make it 12 teams and no Sunday Play? They could really put something together
good! Boise, Fresno, Nevada, Hawaii, & BYU is worthy of an automatic bid!!!
I've just looked at almost every newspaper where a Big East school sits and none
of them mention BYU as a condidate for the Big East. Beyond the named 6, it
appears that Memphis and Temple are next in line. Remember, the Big East is
really a basketball conference. I think, even with Boise, it could lose it AQ
status and no one get it. The other 5 conferences will just add it to their
numbers. This is about money.
Who cares? The mass speculation of where BYU will end up is getting as
rediculous as ''The Decision". For crying out loud, call up the local YMCA
and hold a press conference informing us where you're going to "take your
talents"! Until then let the speculation stop. Report news, not pure
speculation. We've got Chris Brussard via ESPN for that garage.
will somebody please draft us?! please!
Daily Deseret News rumor-mongering article regarding BYU going to a BCS
conference....check.See you tomorrow, November 3rd.
Why torture me with the daily reports of nothing. It's like asking a hot girl
out on a date and havIng her keep saying I'd love to go but let me check my
scheduale. Just tell us one way or the other you cold cruel woman. Yes or no
but this "let me check my scheduale" nonsense is making me crazy and
feel like I need to climb the Carillion Bell Tower to exact revenge. Is it us that does not want to play in a BCS league. Maybe we just can't
stand the word "Big" in front of a league we are invited to join. Maybe the feeling of joyful Infependence is due to being free from the
clutches of the Mountain and all the second rate schools we used to live with.
(no Utah I'm not talking about you - stop being so narcassitic). I
don't care why I just need this to stop so I can go back to reading the Church
News and reports on the Romney campaign instead of daily therapy here in the
comment section. "I'm joe and I'm an realignment addict"
"hi joe"It helps to keep admitting it.
Why is the title of this article so misleading? I thought by the title that
there had been discussions but BYU is not interested. That doesn't seem to be
the case though.
BYU needs a satellite location in NYC or Boston. BYU-B could definitely be in
the Big East.