Redistricting squabble has GOP congressional hopefuls wondering where to line up

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  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 11, 2011 3:33 p.m.

    On the other hand,

    I don't disagree that he is natural politician and very personable. I think the personable part is to his credit, the natural politician not so much. I long for the days where people stood on principles not sound bites. Chaffetz is a rising star and a master of the soundbite, but he has sold his soul to the tea party. By the way I do not think he could win as a (D). I personally find Jim Matheson to be very similar, personable and politically capable, but he has remained independent and represents Utah not the Democratic Party (he votes against his own party as often as he votes with it). Jason Chaffetz votes the tea party line every time. Just my observations.

  • On the other hand Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 11, 2011 12:34 p.m.

    @Fred44, to Jason Chaffetz's credit, he's a really personable guy and a natural politician. I disagree with him on most of the big issues, but the guy does know how to connect with constituents and drum up support for himself. The R by his name doesn't hurt, either, but that little letter isn't the only secret to his success--the guy can campaign.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2011 11:35 a.m.

    This whole thing would be easier to take if the Republicans would just be honest about what they are doing. It is insulting to be told that they are doing this for the benefit of Utah's citizens. They apparently think the voters are very stupid. And since these clowns keep getting elected...

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 11, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    Tooele is definitely one that is impacted significantly during the past 2 redistricting processes. Since they are heavily of one party and is expendable, they end up tossed to and fro by every whim of those in power. It is not just Representative Matheson but a whole county as noted. Not everyone in Tooele is of a certain party. So there are some winner and some losers, as everywhere. There is a motive in those that redistrict and for the eternal party in Utah, whether in the legislature and governor elected offices, they have a certain power in this process. They have meetings where the public attend and have the opportunity for input, but those words are used sparingly in the process. There is frustration as the party leaders, husband and wife, who play a game with districts, such as the city of Holladay and not just Tooele or Syracuse. This process has a deadline at filing time, which is coming up and they will make their decision one way or another, "FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE," at least those people. They have to make the call but INTEGRITY and HONESTY is still the best policy for all.

  • MikeRidgway Tooele, UT
    Oct. 11, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    Hahahahahahaha! Isn't it funny how the power to redistrict is the power to kill, not only one's Democratic rivals, but one's Republican intraparty rivals as well?

    With all due respect, I humbly submit the following question to people I once thought of as friends. (They'll remain nameless.)

    How is your faith in your fellow Republican legislators to be able to properly utilize their Gatling guns fairly and equitably working out for you?

    (One thing politics has taught me about "friendships": You can never have a friend if your friend is building a downline -- whether that downline is commercial or political. Because those kinds of friends view all of their friends as just so much fodder to fuel their personal ambitions. Once there's nothing left of your ability to take them higher, you're not a friend anymore.)

    Even if I were a friend to the victims of this process, I would be a powerless friend. Redistricting does that. Makes us all helpless bystanders who are hopelessly incapable of intervening to save save any of those who have been designated -- by the powers that be in the Legislature -- as LOSERS for the next ten years.

    (Did I just shed a tear?)

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 11, 2011 9:18 a.m.

    Values, which includes Integrity and Honesty, should be a part of the whole process of redistricting and of course running for people you may represent. Some of our elected officials may not represent our beliefs and principles but they are the ones that people in our district voted to have represent them. Some of these elected representatives, whether Senators or Congressmen, go on their own beliefs as what they do and not represent those whom elected them. I believe some in the old Republican party feel they got overtaken by the Tea Party people. That is partly because some showed up at the caucus' and some of the leadership did not ensure all was done to ensure the people were what they said they were. Now that the Tea Party people have taken over some of the Republican party districts and positions of leadership, it is hard to do anything about it. I believe the Democrats will have some Republicans go to their party as some of their principles are what the Republicans believed in. Matheson is good. Some others have made the Democratic party wish they didn't have them in their history. Republicans have similar problems with some.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2011 8:34 a.m.

    The US Constitution just says the congress needs to live in their state. That would protect Matheson from being drawn out of the 2nd district. He has announced that he could run in 2 districts as currently drawn, so if he doesn't like the 2nd, he might run in the 4th.

    Holladay has traditionally been in the 2nd district, but this year it, or part of it, could end up in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Eagar, who lives in Holladay, filed for the 2nd district. She is apt to be within a mile or two of the 2nd and may be in it. Chaffetz has lived in Alpine, which traditionally in the 3rd, but for the last 10 years in the 2nd, and he for the last several years has represented me fine.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 11, 2011 7:58 a.m.

    Petra in Utah if they have an (R) next to their name and the pledge allegiance to the Tea Party (see Jason Chaffetz) where they live doesn't really matter. I bet you mistakenly thought "representative" government means that you were to be represented by your peers, neighbors etc. We need to remember that the Republican Party knows whats best for us here in Utah and we just need to sit back and let the machine pick the candidates and then pick the voters and place them in districts to make sure that they vote the right way. It is much easier that way. Takes the responsibility off the masses and allows a few elites to make the decisions for us.

  • isrred Logan, UT
    Oct. 11, 2011 7:56 a.m.

    Utah already has the embarrassment of Lee and Chaffetz in Washington, please don't send another one like Carl Wimmer.

  • Petra Sanpete County, UT
    Oct. 10, 2011 9:15 p.m.

    I'm sorry, but why is it that someone living outside my district can legally represent me? And what would give that person the idea that he or she could even possibly represent me if he or she does not live in the district, since only by living in a district would a person get the issues....?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Oct. 10, 2011 7:40 p.m.

    If these candidates are similar to the others in the Republican race, they can line up at the exit. Go away and leave us alone.

    On the other hand, if they are sensible moderates -- then welcome and I hope you figure out which door is the right one.