BYU, Utah State football: Matchups between Y., USU interesting

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  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:39 p.m.

    Yep, I wonder how much humble pie is being eaten tonight, probably none, it is more like "hatred pie". And Uteology, you remember how mighty Utah fans stormed the field after barely beating an inferior team last year right? And face it, Utah State is getting better. It will be interesting the next time Utah plays them. I bet next year they will be even a better team. That Quarterback is pretty darn good and shifty. I think he is going to elevate Utah State to a different level. I hope they don't prove me wrong.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:02 p.m.

    "BYU matching up with USU"

    Wow! What happened to the premier program?

    Storming the field after a narrow win over Utah State, really?

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:30 p.m.

    Loving the humble pie that certain posters or is that imposters are eating right now LOL@U!

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:15 p.m.

    That hit on Apo was the most vicious I have ever seen. Made Theisman look like a flag football game. Meanwhile the helmet-to-helmet on Christopher two weeks ago didn't even draw a penalty. You gotta love LES--it's a magical place.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 5:39 p.m.

    How are the BYU cougars matching up this Heaps as QB 1, well lets see BYU passing yard's ranked 66, rushing yards ranked 116, points scored 109, yes fire works Heaps has 3 whole TD's to date fabulous. This brings the grand total ranking of the Heaps lead BYU cougars to 100, yes I said 100 Really.

    Heaps is the man all the way he has been the go to guy, the leader you can count on to take this team to the top.

    Wow I must still be living in the pre-season hype or is it Heap.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 4:25 p.m.

    Thanks to BYU stealing USU's color, it will look like a fall scrimmage--at least uniform-wise. It's kind of difficult to predict. I think the Aggies have better talent at the skill positions, but they manage to lose games they should win, but yet Heaps is the QB playing the backyard 500 game, just throwing up passes for grabs. All things considered, the game being at BYU, I think BYU pulls out a win 24-21 on a special teams snafu by USU, they have a record of that this year.

    As for the BYU posters hating on Weber State, the Wildcats QB hasn't thrown an interception so far--how about Heaps [crickets chirping]... oh yeah, right. Keep waiting for potential, Weber State's previous QB Higgins was producing big time in his sophomore year. Heaps looks like another Berry--big hype and little performance. Good luck Aggies. BYU, if you don't jump up and down and spazz out in celebration every play--you can conserve energy and maybe perform better in the second half. It will also be more tolerable to watch.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 4:01 p.m.

    @ jarka

    Yep just like that, that's the funny part....Every decent play BYU celebrates like they have won something spectacular. Do you get the humor?

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 3:28 p.m.

    To me this is really a question about which offense produces more. USU vs the Cougar defense (could be good or bad, depending on if BYU gives up or only shows up half of the game), or the Cougar offense vs USU defense (would be an accomplishment to score more than once). I can also see it coming down to special teams. Wow, a lot of factors call this a "good game" against Utah St.? Wow, one school's program has either gone down the toilet, or is picking up fast.

  • Boston Spanish Fork, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 3:26 p.m.

    It ought to be a great game, when the Aggies win of course.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 3:15 p.m.

    Sports Nutz

    I still don't know how you know this. Why? They have not played each other yet that I am aware of. Or is it cuz they beat Weber State???? Anderson is a good coach yes but last I checked he has not been to a bowl game, unless you are counting his accomplishments at Utah. 8-16 in the last two years. How is that better than BYU's staff again? If everything else is aside then on what are you basing this certainty? Let me guess because of the debacle against Utah. Fine.

    BYU wins. Don't worry I'm not afraid to back up my comments if I'm wrong.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    Jarka, here is some reality for you. The Aggies have better coaches and better players than byu this year, right now! So everything else aside...AGGIES win. End of discussion. See you on here late tonight........if you show?

  • watchfuleye Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:49 a.m.

    Here is one that hopes the cougs go down again 54-10. Too much pumping of chests for a mediocore team. Coaching staff needs too get priorities in order, with winning being more towards the front.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:15 a.m.


    Just like the Aggies after they beat big brother BYU for the first time in 100 years?

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    Here's some reality for ya Aggie fans, and especially sports nuts and naval vet. You lost to a CSU team at home, A CSU team who lost to CU. The buffs only win so far, memo: The Buffs are a bad bad team, since you call Ole Miss and UCF bad, they are still better than CU. And the Ags turned the ball over 4 times. Oh and since you keep bringing up last year, how is it that this team lost to Idaho and L Tech, oh yeah and SDSU. These weren't just losses they were beat downs. Without turning it around to BYU please explain how this could be.

  • ParkCityAggie Park City, Ut
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:57 a.m.

    USU is still averaging close to 40 points per game. But they are their own worst enemy in the mistake department. Exploite those mistakes and game on. Aggies play mistake free, and it could be a blow out! BYU will need to throw on us to win, running the ball will not work. I still think USU is 100%, ranked #1 in the redzone this year. Keep the Ags out of the redzone much like CSU did, and BYU has a chance. Look for the Aggie D to zero in on Heaps, they know he's vulnerable. CSU found a way to stack the box, disrupt the run and put presure on our young QB. But don't think USU didn't work on that this week, and knows that you guys watched the film, so look for some new wrinkles in the game plan. USU will move the ball, so be ready. If the BYU "D" is out on the field to long, USU will wear you down like they did against Weber, play it smart like CSU, control the clock, and BYU has a chance in this game.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:47 a.m.

    Jarka I will be on here after I get home from the game either tonight or no worries.

    Madden, Vegas also picked USF by a big margin last night and yet they lost by over 3 touchdowns. It is not a sure thing just because one team is favored.

    Here is to no injuries tonight.

  • WallyD North Salt Lake, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 10:04 a.m.

    For winning 1 game in who knows how many years the USU fans sure are confident.

    As a BYU fan I think it will be a close game that could go either way, depending on which teams show up. Will the BYU defense we saw against UCF, Texas, and Ole Miss be there, or will it be the BYU defense in the 2nd half of the Utah game?

    It is way too soon for an Aggie to be claiming that this will be an easy win.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    A lot of trash talk from Aggie fans (and Ute fans with a complex). The lopsided loss to Utah was a surprise, but 2-2 is not a complete shocker. Y fans know the offense is not very good, but they have also played 4 teams with good defenses.

    Utah State has beaten one division II team. Lost to CSU last week at home. The Auburn game was an awesome near-win, but we have not seen that USU team since. Not exactly chest-thumping time guys.

    I think the Aggie fans are going to be disappointed tonight. Vegas has BYU winning 29-21, and that sounds about right to me.

  • Back Overland Park, KS
    Sept. 30, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    I'm glad to hear Di Luigi say that the line needs to "get low and go!" It has been real frustrating watching the offensive line take their first step and stand straight up. They have been doing this for years. They're big, and they feel like they can just use their size to mash people. In contrast, Air Force doesn't have big guys, or blue-chip recruits and continues to be very efficient in running the ball because they stay low, fire out (not up) and are precise in their execution. If these talented BYU players could continually stay LOW, it would be an incredible difference to the outcome. When you don't stay low is when pass blocking (of which they do a very good job), however, adapt to the play call. STAY LOW when run blocking!

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    Sports nuts
    your right I don't follow Aggie football so nope don't know much about Turbin. I'll be here after BYU wins, will you? Doubt it. Ole Miss and a very average UCF team still are head and shoulders above Weber State and if you say otherwise you are truly are delusional.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:34 a.m.

    I am going to watch the BYU vs USU game tonight only so I can get a good laugh when the BYU players celebrate like they have won they Super Bowl when they tackle someone.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    jarka be sure to show up tonight or tomorrow for your big dish of crow. And the comparison to Earl Campbell shows you know nothing of Turbin, he is much more like Walter Payton type. To say that the Aggies haven't won a game against anyone is fair, but the last place Ole Miss and very average UCF are the 2 wins for byu. Not exactly "the Packers" now are they. The sad part is even tonight after an Aggie victory......we still won't have beaten a good team yet this year! GO AGGIES, GO UTES, GO WILDCATS!

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    dixie you are so right........54-10 is your "falt". How about another beat down tonight? GO AGGIES, GO UTES, GO WILDCATS........

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:59 a.m.

    Wow Aggie fans, you have one win against Weber State!! And by the ridiculous comments on here you come off like you have beaten the Packers and have Earl Campbell in the backfield. (check out old Oilers videos if you don't know who he is.) Coming close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

  • The Dixie Kid Saint George, UT
    Sept. 30, 2011 7:15 a.m.

    I hate how people say they shoul have won the Auburn game. There are no should of's I'm football. You either win or you don't. It's your falt if you lose.

  • Utah_State_Fan Logan, Utah
    Sept. 29, 2011 10:21 p.m.

    BYU had 12 total rushing yards vs Utah. Turbo can get 12 yards in his sleep. I am surprised that luigi hasn't been able to find the weight room, he looks more scrony this year than he did last year......

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 10:02 p.m.


    Wow. That's a pretty bold prediction for a team that has struggled to get more that one offensive touchdown per game this season. Where are those 42 points coming from?

    Heaps: "Hey BYU fans, watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!"
    BYU fans: "Again? But that trick never works."
    Heaps: "This time for sure!"

    I'll believe it when I see it. In the meantime:

    USU 35
    BYU 17

  • WXcat Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 9:26 p.m.

    Hey Cougar Claws. So Turbin, as an inexperienced freshman, rushed for almost as many yards as BYU averages in two games? Against a better BYU team? Good luck. He is out for blood after last game.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 29, 2011 9:23 p.m.

    Defense wins games and the Cougs has one

    Cougs 42
    Aggies 17

    Chris B whining of tough schedule for utes.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 29, 2011 8:28 p.m.

    I'm a die hard BYU fan and always will be. I'm going to have to go with the majority of the posts on here and predict a USU win. In 3 games the BYU offense showed ZERO IMPROVEMENT. Why would I expect anything different from the Cougar offense this week. it's just not there. And the Cougar defense has not faced a dual threat QB like this one. Expect a lot of zone option (like what Texas did against BYU the 2nd half) from the Aggies. BYU can't defend it.

    USU has a better QB (by far), a better offense, and better coaches. BYU has a better defense, and probably better athletes,
    and maybe better special teams. Overall edge goes to USU.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 6:58 p.m.

    I BYU better in Provo that Auburn at Auburn? I don't know. Going into a packed SEC stadium somehow seems a whole lot more daunting that going into Provo. I know Auburn isn't what they were last year, but then, neither is BYU.

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Sept. 29, 2011 6:57 p.m.

    One commenter said that the only stat USU had in its favor over BYU was in recruiting thugs.

    To set the record straight:

    Points per game, USU 42.0, BYU 16.0
    Rush yards per game, USU 316.0, BYU 42.0
    Pass yards per game, USU 234.8, BYU 176.0
    3rd down conversions, USU 18 of 42 (42,9%), BYU 23 of 60 (38.3%)
    4th down conversions, USU 2 of 4 (50%), BYU 1 of 5 (20$%)
    Sacks per game USU 3.3, BYU 1.0
    Interceptions per game, BYU 1.0, USU 0.0
    Punt yard average, USU 48.6, BYU 42.0
    FGs, BYU 5 of 6, USU 3 of 3; XP BYU 7 of 7, USU 15 of 16.

    There are a few in BYU's favor, but the vast majority are in USU's favor. In fairness, BYU has played two teams that could be in or are close to the top 25 and USU only one (that is in the FBS).

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 6:45 p.m.

    My prediction?

    The team that scores the most wins.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 6:07 p.m.

    Robert Turbin only rushed for 74 yards against BYU's bad defense back in 2008, I don't see him making that huge of an impact against a BYU defense that is actually good.

    BYU by 10.

  • VAggie Bristow, United States
    Sept. 29, 2011 5:02 p.m.

    The side that makes the fewest mistakes should win. If both sides don't really have turnovers, I think USU should be able to control the clock a bit more.

  • Aggie24 Hyde Park, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 4:59 p.m.

    I agree - it shouldn't be close. Like 31 - 16 ish?

    disrupt the status, I'm with you on that one. The article was laughable. Where does DNews get these people?

  • vermillion Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 4:52 p.m.

    Aggies will have this one. BYU didn't change its stripes overnight, and Andersen's team will not be intimidated by a team they dominated last year.

    Deseret News prediction = way off base.

  • Hondo Alpine, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 4:50 p.m.

    "To all you Aggie afficionados: What's a Turbin? He hasn't seen a defense yet."

    You're going to see Turbin's footprints on your LBs chests after the game.

  • disrupt the status Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 29, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    Wow, they act as though USU won't make any improvements on their last week of play, but BYU will fix all of their errors that we have seen over and over again through the season. BYU's offense is terrible (agains utah -12 rushing yards was laughable), does anyone really think Jake Heaps is a good QB? I've watched all of the games from both teams and I haven't seen much to wow over on the BYU side, but USU has some real raw talent. It's ok, USU did fine as the underdog last year. My prediction?

    USU 31
    BYU 12

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    The Big 12 (10 or whatever) is irrelevant. All the big boys are waving bye bye to the conference. It will end up being Iowa State, and possibly the Kansas schools, when the dust settles. Why join a a near cadaver? BYU better wait, or it will end up joining a poorer conference that the one they left. The so-called Big 12 will be decertified at a BCS school if they implode as they apparently are poised to do. Be careful BYU.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 4:26 p.m.

    Unless Coach Andersen has been talking to Coach Whittingham about how to defend us, we should win this one.

  • Duckhunter Hunter Alpine, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 4:09 p.m.

    A USU win is in the cards for the 2nd straight year. USU is better than they were last year and BYU is about the same or worse. It won't be a 44 point beatdown that has fans running for the parking lot in the 3rd quarter, but I think USU will control the clock and the score will be:

    USU 27 (absolute control)
    BYU 17 (two TDs on offense will be considered a MAJOR step forward)

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 4:08 p.m.

    maybe the Cougs won't quit this time.

  • SnipeHookyoFace Farmington, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    Turbin is going to rush for 150+ yards and 2 TD's. Chuckie will throw for 200+ yards and Wagner will get to Heaps at least 2-3 times.

    If Aggies defense doesn't have too many meltdowns, they'll win.

    Aggies 30
    Cougars 17

  • Mctejman Farmington, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    Does anybody at the Deseret News watch BYU play? You guys all predicted BYU to win easy at Old Miss, they scraped out a win. You predicted wins at Texas and against Utah, wrongo. Big win against CFU, CFU handed away the game with mistakes.
    Auburn couldn't stop USU's run game, neither could CSU. BYU allowed Jon White to run all over them, and White is no Turbin. While I expect BYU to look better this game they have not shown any special ability that Auburn or CSU didn't have. Expect USU to go for at least 250 on the ground, and Utah State to win by 7-10.

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 3:35 p.m.

    teepee moderate,

    I'm happy that all things BYU bother you. I love that even after a huge beatdown that admittedly was tough you still obsess about BYU.

    I absolutely love that byu upsets you so.


  • Cris B. Sandy, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    I see a repeat.

    USU 31
    byu 16

    0-4 against Utah teams the past two years.

    Soon to be fourth in recruiting behind Utah, Utah State, and Southern Utah

    no BCS invite, no chance at ever going to BCS game, no chance at ever going undefeated....


    no chance at being relevant any time in the future.

    The future of football in Utah, is Utah

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 29, 2011 2:56 p.m.

    Beware the ghost of Crowton

  • TaipeiModerate New Haven, CT
    Sept. 29, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    Well, guys, it looks like BYU to the Big 12 is a done deal. The announcement is coming Saturday.