Sheriff's office removed Powell children for safety; 2 judges may review case separately

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  • snowman Provo, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 2:16 p.m.

    DrGroovey: the removal of the children was the right thing to do. Joshs fathe. with whom he and his boys are living with, has committed a crime against children.

  • SLMG Murtoa Australia, Victoria
    Sept. 27, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    DrGroovey | 8:05 p.m. Sept. 26, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Are you a child custody attorney and privy to all of the details of this case?

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    I also know if my wife suddenly disappeared, and I really thought she might have run off with another man, I would not shrug my shoulders and say, "oh, well--she's gone, I guess." I would try to reach out to her to try to help her reconnect. Her leaving would actually be a cry for "help!"

    I would have nothing to hide, and I would help the police eliminate myself as a suspect--the police ALWAYS must eliminate the spouse as a suspect!

    But Josh Powell has so much to hide--he needs to hide his father's addiction to child porn, filmed in his own house; he needs to hide several facts associated with the time of Susan's disappearance; he needs to desperately try to undermine his wife and try to redirect the police.

    It's time to allow the Cox's grandchildren have a chance at a normal life. Josh and Steve Powell are too distracted with their own idiotic lives.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 27, 2011 2:06 p.m.

    Re: BoomerJeff | 12:21 p.m. Sept. 27, 2011

    Innocent husbands who want to find their missing wives do everything thing in their power to help the police find them.

    Most mothers don't vanish without a trace, leaving their children behind, without leaving some kind of message or statement. The vast majority of individuals who take their own lives are found almost immediately.

    Most private citizens believe Josh is guilty for the same exact reasons as law enforcement personnel have concluded.

  • HugeJazzFan Layton, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 2:05 p.m.

    Reality? Who would still be living with their father after him admitting recently of his feelings for Susan and his accusations against her? I would have been out of there so fast! If I really loved my wife, and was waiting for her safe return, I would be wondering what my father's problem was that he was spreading vicious lies (lies or not, my initial reaction would be that my wife wasn't like that) all over the media about the person that I loved (as Josh claims). I can't fathom why he would want to remain in the household after that, unless I myself had reason to believe that there was no way she was ever coming home to my "loving" arms.

  • BoomerJeff Saint George, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 12:21 p.m.

    I feel like I'm living in Salem during the witch trials. Guilty, Guilty, Guilty is all I'm reading on these boards. What if Josh is innocent? Gee, I wonder what else we can do to him? We've convicted him of murduring his wife, have taken away his dad and two boys, but lets keep kicking him until he confesses . . . I can see now why he moved from our community

  • K Mchenry, IL
    Sept. 27, 2011 12:06 p.m.

    They need to be in a neutral home for the immediate time given the grandfather's arrest.

    Glad they were able to make a case without the missing mom, but sad other victims.

    I really don't know who is the bad guy? Which one did wrong? Both? Did the other know and become just as culpable by keeping it secret?

    To live with a man who claims to have had a relationship with your missing wife publicly and stay living with him suggests he may have had a bad childhood as well. That is simply wrong.

  • My $0.02 Roy, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 12:06 p.m.

    I can't speak for the police in Washington, but for MY personal experience with the Detectives in West Valley formerly investigated for a crime in which I was innocent and two and a half years after charges were filed, all charges were dropped because I wouldn't "PLEA", to something so hanious I stood for the right or my life would be ruined, I know the Tricks and harrassment the West Valley Detectives were willing to go too, in trying to get me to "Crack". The problem was, with all their "Set Ups", name dropping, and false witnesses whom never actually came forward, they didn't have anything, frankly because I hadn't done anything! They followed me "Conspicuously" inconspicuous, they threatened me, they hounded me, and even called me names! In one interview they even denied me a drink of water, and kept me from the bathroom for over an hour at one point. I am sure they worked with someone to convince the Washington Police Department these fine upstanding Detectives are on the "Up & Up" and something needs to be done to PROTECT the children, as an act of harrassment against Susan Powell's husband. Maybe I'm wrong, but Probably not!

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Sept. 27, 2011 10:56 a.m.

    Bizzare and Powell seem to go hand-in-hand. "A late-August search ... of the Powell home ... resulted in thousands of pornographic images allegedly belonging to Steven Powell being seized. Many of the pictures and videos were of children. Some were of Susan, according to authorities, and appeared to be taken without permission." Perhaps the net needs to be expanded to Person(s) of interest and include the father. And here we thought the son was the odd one. How any judge in their right could not grant full custody of the children to the Cox family is beyond me. Certainly seems to be a huge difference between both sets of grandparents.

  • CB Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 10:42 a.m.

    We don't know if the grandson's pictures were among those found, if so, they were right to remove them from that house. The behavior and action of both father and son are questionable. Someone who will not allow visitation of these young boys who have been deprived of their mother seems to hold some very hostile feeling towards his wife/and her parents.

  • MrsB1971 Kissimmee, FL
    Sept. 27, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    I am hoping beyond hope that Steven Powell didn't harm his grandchildren in any way. If one of the adult Powell children knew about the porn in that house, there's more than a good chance that all of them, even Josh, knew about it.

    I am glad that those babies are away from that house of horrors.
    At least now we know that no one is going to be able to run away with them.

  • ClarkKent Bountiful, Utah
    Sept. 27, 2011 9:13 a.m.

    I look forward to seeing similar comments the next time a seminary teacher hits the news for having sexual relations with a kid -- I'd assume all of you accuers will speak up and voice your opinion that the children in that teacher's family should be removed because of course his wife must know about his sick behavior? To the contrary, I recall an article on DN where members of a convicted seminary teacher's ward attended the sentencing hearing and pleaded for no prison time because the man was "such a good husband and father". Same with the Brown family -- many posters made up a story in their mind that the mother couldn't have known about the abuse that lasted for YEARS. Funny how many of you turn isn't it!

  • snowman Provo, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 9:05 a.m.

    L Kaiser: Josh's father can't be around the kids so it is unlikely that Josh will get the kids if he continues to live with his father.

    DeltaFoxtrot: The children are young enough that it is likely that they won't remember any of this.

  • very concerned Sandy, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 9:00 a.m.

    I agree that it looks very much like Josh and/or his father have been involved in various crimes, including murder. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it probably is a duck. However - and it pains me to say it in this case - our assumptions of that guilt are a far cry from a real trial and a real verdict from a real jury who has listened to the entire body of evidence, using the rules of evidence and the procedures of the court. If any American's rights are trampled, then your or mine could be too.

    I hate to see this murder go unsolved for the present time. But we live in a country ruled by law, and no one is guilty till proven so. I just hope and pray the police and courts are able to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt and in a timely manner.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    I want to know at what point these kids are going to get a lawyer and sue the rest of their family for ruining their lives. Pain and suffering should be worth a couple million at least.

    Sept. 27, 2011 8:16 a.m.

    It has been more then a bad 19 months in the Powell household. No 64 year old man wakes up one morning a decides he is attracted to children. This is all years in the making. Powell Jr had to know what his Dad was up to. Powell Sr has most likely be doing these kinds of things for a very long time. If I were a betting man I would bet all of Powell Jr's life. This streak of "bad-luck" is a complication of living a bad life!

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 7:24 a.m.

    It's been a bad 19 months in the Powell household.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 27, 2011 6:00 a.m.

    Re: Mike Rose | 5:34 p.m. Sept. 26, 2011
    "I just want good solid evidence against Josh Powell"

    When Mark Hacking dumped his wife's body in a dumpster he assumed the authorities would never be able to find her ...... and they nearly didn't.

    You can be sure Susan's parents and the police would dearly like to find solid evidence of where she is so they can give her a proper burial.

  • Back to the Drawing board... Holladay, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 12:51 a.m.

    I'm a firm believer that where there's smoke, there's fire. In a case that is nothing short of extraordinary, this mess is cannot be resolved using ordinary considerations...especially with these innocent young lives involved.

  • Northern Logan, UT
    Sept. 27, 2011 12:14 a.m.


    Its a scary doubled edge sword.

    Please put the kids with there loving grandparents if Josh is guilty. And if he is not time to move away from daddy.

  • Mike Rose Provo, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 10:16 p.m.

    They could take his kids on grounds of negligence due to inadequate support due to not having a job. However in cases where the household provider is imprisioned usually a grace period is granted during which the non earning occupants have time to find a job.

    I'm disturbed that our state governments claim the right to take our children merely for not having a source of income and benefits.


  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 8:15 p.m.

    I am distressed by the failure to act more quickly in the seizure of the computers and the arrest of Steve Powell.
    Children were put at risk by the delays in acting on tips received months ago.

  • DrGroovey Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 8:05 p.m.

    The reason Washington Child Services is distancing themselves from this matter is that they know the removal was illegal. The laws governing when children can be removed from their parents are very clear. Josh has not even been accused any wrong doing. The actions of the grandfather are irrelevant to Josh's actions. Unless he does something to hurt the kids, they can not be removed. I think Josh is going to be able to sue the officers involved and win big time.

    Wouldn't it be nice if the police had any evidence that Josh had done something wrong. I just worry that one day evidence will surface that shows he is innocent. On that day the police and the majority of the community will really have some crow to eat.

  • L Kaiser REDMOND, WA
    Sept. 26, 2011 6:51 p.m.

    I would like to see the Cox's get the children, but in court I think its gonna come down to whether josh knew of his dads behavior. If he did, he can be deemed negligent, if he was oblivious, he will be considered a "victim" and the court will likely give him the kids back. Its gonna come down to proof of whether josh was aware he was subjecting his kids to this unhealthy and dangerous environment.

  • photographermom South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 6:10 p.m.

    @mike rose when you have two young boys and you choose to live with somebody who is a pedophile then you loose the right to your kids. Them being removed had nothing to do with Susan and everything to do with a grandpa they are living with that is sexually attracted to young kids!

  • Mike Rose Provo, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 5:34 p.m.

    I just want good solid evidence against Josh Powell, if there isn't he gets the kids.

    Btw for all you mothers out there just because your husband or boyfriend is a dirtbag and police claim you knew he was dirtbag doesn't mean you'll lose your kids you only have to move out and never see the guy again.

  • grandmagreat Lake Havasu City, AZ
    Sept. 26, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    what heartache for the Grandparents of these precious children. They will be in my prayers.

  • MoJules Florissant, MO
    Sept. 26, 2011 4:28 p.m.

    I wish the Cox family the best of luck in getting custody of these boys. I hope that these little boys can get professional help after what they have gone through, losing their mother, not seeing her parents at all and who knows what goes on in the home with their father and grandfather.

  • Wanda Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    I sincerely hope that the authorities reviewing this take into consideration that Josh Powell had to have been aware of his father's activities, and therefore was not acting in his children's best interests to move in with Steve Powell. Giving Susan's parents custody would be the ideal solution - in the care of loving 'normal' family members.