Middle East Matters: Irvine 11: Criminals or Muslim civil rights heroes?

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  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    Sept. 26, 2011 9:31 p.m.

    I think that they should throw the book at them. Not because I disagree with their message, but because I agree with it. The worst action against a cause is not a good action against it, but a bad action for it.

    Fight an idea with a better idea, not by boorish, obnoxious behavior. They could have asked pointed questions, they could have issued a letter to the campus newspaper, they could have had a demonstration. As it is, they look like spoiled children and they have hurt the credibility of a valid, justifiable cause.

  • The tennis nerd SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 5:01 p.m.

    And Muslims wonder why the majority of Americans look upon upon Islam in disgust. They were unrepentant and very proud of their bevavior. Muslims want tolerence but do not give tolernce.

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    Sept. 26, 2011 4:26 p.m.

    I always find it interesting that people come to the US to exercise rights that their own countries and governments deny them. All the civil rights heroes mentioned in the article acted for change in their own country, the United States of America. These people know that if they tried something like this in their own countries that they would probably never be seen or heard from again. If these people want to be real heroes I suggest they return to their home nations and work for the rights that are as unalienable there as they are here. Then they would be heroes. They could start by demanding that women be given equal rights on all levels and move forward from there.

  • lawenforcementfromAZ Glendale, AZ
    Sept. 26, 2011 1:47 p.m.

    UPDATE: This says it all ----
    (AP) ANAHEIM, Calif. Eight Muslim students convicted of misdemeanors for disrupting a speech by the Israeli ambassador at the University of California, Irvine thanked supporters and expressed no regrets at a public meeting in an Anaheim mosque.

    As they have "no regrets" for what they have done or for their convictions, there should be no further justification for this criminal act.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 1:07 p.m.

    Why are we making excuses for criminal behavior?

    It seems that some people are unaware that radical Islamists are engaged in a war on the west, especially the United States and Israel.

    Tolerating this low level activism is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

  • lawenforcementfromAZ Glendale, AZ
    Sept. 26, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    "As much as I may disagree with the students message and methods, I cant support the convictions". As a grandfather, holding both a BA and MA degrees, and as a retired law enforcement commander, I cannot fathom Mark's logic. What these "students" did was far beyond mere harrassment. They, like CAIR, are a radical, lawless organization that supports terrorism in whatever form then can get away with.

    If these "students" are here on visas, they should be immediately deported.

  • BH Tremonton, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 12:23 p.m.

    Quite often I find Mark's editorial comments interesting and thought provoking. Not so today.

    I was very disappointed with his viewpoint that no legal action should be taken against these illegal rioters. What he is saying, in essence, is "Boys will be boys." While I would agree with this thought if the "boys" were engaged in light fun, this is not the case here.

    One of America's pillars of freedom is freedom of speech. The Israelite speaker is entitled to exersizing that right. Some may say that the Irvine 11 were exersizing thier freedom of speech. But when their protest interfered with the speaker, at that point they are no longer exersizing free speech, but instead inhibiting free speech.

    There is nothing wrong with seeking to assure that both sides of an issue are represented. But stifling one side so only yours can be put forth is against all that is part of our freedoms. To allow a group to do so is to yield those freedoms.

  • desert dweller SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 11:24 a.m.

    welcome to romper room !

  • sashabill Morgan Hill, CA
    Sept. 26, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    It's interesting how these students can be considered heroes. I did those kinds of things when I was about three years old, too.

  • KM Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 26, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    Next up...community organizing for these leftist activist. Who knows, someday they may hold high office or become president of the U.S. Anything is possible in this new, bold, hopey changy America.