Red roundup: Has BYU-Utah rivalry gone too far?

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  • North Summit 05 Coalville, UT
    Sept. 22, 2011 6:59 a.m.

    I was at that game last week and both sides need to calm it down I heard both BYU and Utah fan's that were going below the belt the rivalry is not as bad as it has been in the past.

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 12:26 p.m.

    Yankees27- I feel you brother! I grew up around that stuff too. I would rather be sworn at or even have beer spilled on me than be talked down to by the judgemental Y fans any day. They don't understand that by judging others they are actually committing the bigger sin! I totally understand what you are saying about chameleons too.

    P.S How did you get that Homeland Security calling?

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Sept. 17, 2011 11:51 a.m.


    I understand what you are saying, but the casting of generalizations is a 2 way street.

  • EdCullen Orem, UT
    Sept. 17, 2011 12:40 a.m.

    It's unfortunate you guys completely categorize all Y fans into this terrible group of people. It's more in your mind than anything. Why not sit back, enjoy the game, have fun with the rivalry, quit casting generalized judgements, and stop playing the role of church cop. Hope it's great game; may the best team win.

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    Sept. 16, 2011 11:38 p.m.

    I, as an avid Ute fan, would have to agree that both sides say some pretty dumb stuff to each other. However, we don't have a "holier than thou" attitude like the Y fans. I don't claim to be anything other than what I am, a sinner! I freely admit my faults and shortcomings, and am proud to be what I am. I am LDS (not a card carrying member) and hold a calling, I'm the Homeland Security officer for my ward (stay home on Sunday and protect the hood while my neighbors go to church), I have never thrown beer on Max Halls mother because you aren't allowed to have beer in the stadium, I don't hate the Y, the school, the swim team, Cosmo, or any other part of the school, I don't even hate the players, I just hate the judgemental fans. I always have. Y fans... chameleons

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 16, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    The purpose and mission of BYU athletics is to represent the standards and values of the LDS Church.

    By extension, BYU fans are expected to represent the values and standards of the LDS church.

    BYU has even recently produced a "fan playbook" to instruct BYU fans how to support their teams in a manner consistent with the values of the Church.

    Yet, when it is suggest that BYU fans fail to live up to the standards of the Church, rather than examine their own behavior, their first reaction (see Mr. Duckhunter and Mr. TJ) is often to point fingers at the behavior of those who claim no association with BYU or BYU athletics.

    Just an observation...

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Sept. 16, 2011 8:25 p.m.

    its amazing going to all the boards reading all the comments from byu and utah fans. and all i ever hear from the byu fans is how classless and hypocritical the utah fans are and how they bash on the byu fans, when in fact its actually the total opposite. the only things utah fans can cut back on is claiming their team as a national power cause theyre not, neither are you byu. but its funny listening to the byu fans when all they are ever doing is talking bad to utah fans and acting like byu is the greatest school to have ever been. and the its amazing the comments the dnews approves when they deny comments far less worse than those of the byu "fans" lol byu fans get real

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Sept. 16, 2011 7:56 p.m.

    Hey TJ, did you ever see the pictures of Kyle Whittingham's wife and daughter being assaulted by a BYU fan in 2009? Yes, there's photographic proof. Apparently profanity, bullying, and threats (and worse) go the other way too.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 16, 2011 3:58 p.m.

    @Counter Intelligence

    It isn't a "substitute" at all. It is simply part of it. Those that already hate the LDS just have one more tool to use. Personally I don't care if this game is ever played again although I'm not calling for it to end. But it will make no difference to the bigots. They will hate the LDS anyway and will simply find another way to express it.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    Sept. 16, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    The loogies on my Utah car magnets that I got in Utah county might indicate that BYU fans also share some culpability.

    BTW, TJ: I have never been more verbally assaulted anywhere than I was at LES 2 years ago. (Disclaimer-I am a BYU and Utah grad, avid Utah fan and said nothing to BYU fans or did anything that other than cheer for my team)

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 16, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    And the classless behavior at the U has reached a disturbing level. Profanity, bullying and threats have no place at a football game. Or is this how you think a secular school should be acting. Some people take it way too far. It would be very nice to see more respect or at least indifference to the other teams fans.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 16, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    The hypocrites are utah fans like yourself wookie. You, as a supposed LDS member, are expected to hold yourself to the same standard as any other LDS individual. utah "fans" like yourself want to pretend that simply being a fan of BYU means that those LDS that are BYU fans have to be held to a higher standard but the LDS utah "fans" like yourself are exempt because your school isn't owned by the church.

    If you are LDS, and you are a utah "fan" you represent the church just as much as any BYU fan does. The utterly despicable behavior displayed so regularly by utah "fans", that is either by LDS utah "fans" or else goes unquestioned and unchecked by LDS utah "fans" is far more of an embarrassment to the LDS faith than anything any BYU fans ever do.

    You might want to check that beam in your eye.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 16, 2011 1:38 p.m.

    Yes, the hypocracy at the Y is almost a slap in the face to the LDS Church members. We are talking about a secular school and a Church school and yet one group cannot seem to remember who they represent....