Red roundup: Utes 7th in Pac-12 power rankings

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  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 16, 2011 12:09 p.m.


    "Why would you invite 'Top-Tier' teams to your conference to make it more difficult for the teams that are already there."

    Right now, the Pac-12 is looking at inviting Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St. Are those the bottom teams of the Big XII in YOUR world?

    Right now, the SEC is looking for a 14th team to offset the addition of Texas A&M. The top 2 teams widely projected to receive that invitation are Va. Tech or Missouri. Are they the bottom of the ACC and/or Big XII?

    The BigTen added Nebraska. If they were seeking bottom-level teams, why didn't they add Iowa State? Or Buffalo?

    And you're suggesting that it was I who had "missed the boat"? Typical coug.

  • gb13 Herriman, Utah
    Sept. 16, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    navel vet.

    You have "missed the boat." Of course the PAC-10 wanted Utah & Colorado, instead of BYU. Why would you invite "Top-Tier" teams to your conference to make it more difficult for the teams that are already there.

    Stop the talk about conferences and schedules and take a look at the "head-to-head" game scheduled for this weekend. Let's talk after this weekend about who is the better team!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 16, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    Duckhunter will always find a way to put down the Utes. Even after we win tomorrow he will find a way to avoid the healthy helping of humble pie he deserves. Just like he did when the Pac 12 media deal was anounced.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 16, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    Big Daddy Utah
    speaking of semantics
    "probably more so than most of you Utes on this sight"

  • Big Daddy Utah SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 10:13 p.m.

    You people are all petty. No wonder Utah and BYU hate each other so bad. The fans from both sides have brought it to a new low. It's just a football game. The best team on the field on Saturday will win, it is still just a game between two great schools. Learn to grow up, get a life, and quit arguing semantics. Some of you people must spend hours digging up this information. Enough said, I am still a big Ute, probably more so than most of you Utes on this sight. I have had season tickets for over 40 years, I sit on the West side on the 49 yard line, I will not tell you the row, and I cheer my guts out. But at the end of the day, it is a game.

    Anyway, GO UTES

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 9:10 p.m.

    @naval vet

    You say "bcs" as if that also means good.


  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 8:18 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    The Utes don't have a team capable of even sniffing a BCS championship game, so what does it matter who you play. This year's Utah team will be lucky to win 7 games, IF Wynn stays healthy, and next year's team will be breaking in a new QB.

    btw, last season's combined of this season's opponents

    BYU - 72-79

    Utah - 73-76

    except for USC, not one of Utah's PAC 12 opponents had a better record than BYU last season; the mighty PAC 12 indeed

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 15, 2011 7:44 p.m.


    Texas is not on your schedule next year. At present, the only BCS teams on your schedule for 2012 is Utah, Oregon St, and Ga. Tech. Notre Dame is not a BCS team. They are an Independent with "special" BCS accomodations not afforded any other Independent team. So you have 3 plus Notre Dame. In other words, not quite half the 10 teams Utah will be playing this season. Case closed.

    By the way, in addition to Utah, I see you also have games scheduled vs. Utah St. AND Weber St. What? No SUU? Wow. Bronco wasn't kidding when he said he wanted a state championship. Too bad he won't get one.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 15, 2011 6:24 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    C'mon really? 10 BCS level teams, who? where? So typical of your fan base. You really think Wazzzooooo, Colorado, UCLA, Pitt and even Washington are ALL BCS level teams? Not a chance. Just because a team is in a "BCS" conf. doesn't mean they are somehow superior to other fodder that BYU may play. Then explain how Texas, Notre Dame, Boise State, Georgia Tech, are not BCS level teams. They are all on BYU's schedule next year. There are four chump teams as well but that easily matches Utah's fodder as well as I just mentioned.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 4:15 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter | 3:54 p.m. Sept. 15, 2011
    Highland, UT

    "Thank you for continuing to make my point. The Utes have Howie and the Cougars have Duckhunter. Neither side is the better off."


    Can't talk now, off to my quarterback lessons.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 15, 2011 4:13 p.m.

    Mormon Ute

    BYU lost by one point on the road to a team ranked #23. Appears that is a respectable loss as well. More so than to a USC team who isn't ranked and by 9 points. And are you saying that Ute fans haven't mentioned anything about playing year after year in the Rose Bowl and National championship the second you joined the PAC?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 15, 2011 4:11 p.m.


    Utah will have played a minimum of 10 BCS-level opponents in 2011, and only because Iowa State backed out of their return game and left us with a Big Sky opponent instead. And speaking of Big Sky opponent....Idaho State? Weren't they the worst team in the Big Sky last year, having won only ONE game? And THAT game was vs. an NAIA opponent. At least MSU was the conference co-champion. That is SO typical of your fanbase to hypocritically call out Utah for playing a Big Sky opponent, when not only do you play one too, but yours is substantially worse.

    I haven't seen much improvement with your future schedules either. The Utes will have played 10 BCS-level schools in 2011. Do you have a year you can point to where you will play even HALF that many? And if you think your schedules are pathetic now, wait'll you see what they look like if college football migrates to the 4 super conferences! You'll be left out. Unwanted. Mid-majored. WAC-ish.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 4:08 p.m.

    @ Carnak | 12:59 p.m. Sept. 15, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Good point.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 15, 2011 3:55 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    So how is it that BYU cannot improve being a "mid-majored Indy-WACer" as you say. Didn't the Utesies open up their schedule against the Big Sky? Meanwhile BYU is playing in the SEC and Big 12 and is improving their schedule year after year with the likes of Texas, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Boise State, etc etc etc. BYU appears to be doing just fine.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 3:54 p.m.


    Considering 90% of your posts are simply in reply to mine it would seem the most obsessed poster on these boards is none other than: carnak.


  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 3:27 p.m.

    Well said Naval Vet!!

    I like that mid majored "Indy-WACer" comment. So very very true!!! You can tell from this article that little brother syndrome is alive and well.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 15, 2011 2:13 p.m.

    That's right about where we finished vs. our conference brethren in our 1st year in the recruiting wars too. So much for that "bottom feeder" cougar fantasy. Haha!

    Now, if I'm not mistaken, you're all still a mid-majored Indy-WACer, arent' you?


    The problem for you is "mid-majored Indy-WACer" is the best you can hope for. We can always improve.

    Edge: Utah.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 2:05 p.m.


    I find your post very curious. After one PAC 12 game Utah is 0-1 and according to these particular rankings ranked 7th. The Utes first game also figures into the power rankings. There are teams in the PAC who did not beat or barely beat FCS opponents their first week. So Utah is ranked ahead of them.

    You are CORRECT in your insinutaion that after 1 week it it too early to proclaim the Utes cellar dwellers. But it is also too early to say that they won't be. It is also interesting that you choose to call BYU fans delusional for proclaiming to have a juggernaut offense, when Utah has only put up 27 pts (against an FCS opponent), and 14 pts respectively in their two games thus far.

    How are BYU fans who think the Y has a terrific offense any more delusional than you proclaiming Utah won't end up in the bottom of the PAC 12 (only because they aren't ranked there after only 1 game) due to their lack of offense?

    It seems the only delusion on this comment board is your own.

  • SportsCenter Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 15, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    7th may be a little high considering Utah's QB problems; Arizona State is a must win if the Utes are going to have any chance of winning the weak PAC 12 south.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter | 10:46 a.m. Sept. 15, 2011
    Highland, UT

    Thank you for continuing to make my point. The Utes have Howie and the Cougars have Duckhunter. Neither side is the better off.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    Wow, the BYU folks just can't stay away. I would think having your offense humbled in two consecutive weeks would have backed you off a bit. How's that national title quest coming? What about Jake Heaps' Heisman?

    This ranking is about where we should be and where I expected us to be. With only USC and AZ St. from our division ahead of us. Especially after a respectable showing against the team ranked 3rd. An upset win over AZ St. and we could play for the conference title as long as we take care of business against the teams we are supposed to beat.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 15, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    Y trolls, weren't ya'll the ones predicting the Utes would be cellar dwellers?

    Your delusions, it appears, don't seem to be relegated only to BYU's juggernaut offense.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Sept. 15, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    Very soon that ranking will be in the double digits.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 11:32 a.m.

    I think that is where they deserve to be until they earn more. The game against ASU will probably be their biggest benchmark game of the season.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 15, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    The middle of the PAC major Utes are going to dominate another mediocre independent this week, just like we did last year.

    BYU 28
    Utah 3

    It's a great time to be a Ute.

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Sept. 15, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    I have to agree with Duckhunter on this one. They are very lucky to be in the Southern Division. Of course, last year 7 of the worst AQ teams were in the PAC they have 9 of the worst AQ teams in the PAC 10.2.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    That high? Really?

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Sept. 15, 2011 10:32 a.m.

    Let's talk about a nice, warm welcome to the Utes' new status of middle-tier BCS fodder. They'll be stuck there indefinitely now, why will top-tier recruits choose Utah when they can choose somewhere flashier in the same conference?