Curtis Allgier threatens to fire attorneys during another hearing over his weight

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  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    Is there a documented relationship between obesity and enhanced self-defense? That's a very tenuous legal strategy. Perhaps he is taking a lesson from Mitchell for delaying this trial. Adjoining cells would be nice.

  • ignoranceisbliss Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2011 12:31 p.m.

    Is he trying to prove that the restaurant patron did not disarm him by pointing out that he was much bigger and the probability of the patron being capable of taking his weapon away was slim because he was smaller than the defendant? I am curious to know who came up with this strategy, was it his attorneys or him? Didn't he also go to his girlfriends house, too, why didn't he surrender himself then? Just how big was the guy who claims to have disarmed him? Maybe we could save some time by finding out if this tactic will have any bearing on the outcome of his trial. In the eyes of the law he still has rights and it would be a shame if he got off because he was denied those rights. He had a right to a speedy trial, sure, obviously he has waived that right, but he still has a right to a fair trial. Besides it is almost winter and he will not have to worry about those pesky ants for much longer. It is funny because ants only go where there is food

  • lket Bluffdale, UT
    Sept. 13, 2011 11:52 a.m.

    he is just waisting time so we can not execute as he should be. why him being bigger could help his cause is unknown. he killed a good man for nothing other than his freedom. his tatoos he got to look tuff i saw him without and he was nothing to fill one with fear. he took a kind mans life and because of his kindness was able to take his gun and murder him. the man that grabbed him was a vetran and a real man.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2011 11:42 a.m.

    So i think maybe 2017 before this trial gets underway?

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Sept. 13, 2011 8:39 a.m.

    Ants in his cell? I have ants in my house on occasion. Big deal. Utah justice is extremely slow and needs to be speeded up. Four years gone and no trial is embarassing. Why can't the courts get this taken care of? The Constitution guarantees the right to a fair and speedy trial. He sould have had both by now.

  • SME Kearns, UT
    Sept. 13, 2011 7:03 a.m.

    Getting tired of this kabuki theater now.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Sept. 13, 2011 6:27 a.m.

    This is a terrible person who cares nothing for anyone but himself. Please stop putting him in the media and subjecting us to seeing his hideously tatooed face. He deserves no further media attention unless it benefits the victim's family. Let the justice system do with him whatever they want, he won't get out of jail again, but keep him away from the rest of us, including in the media.

  • ignoranceisbliss Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2011 12:07 a.m.

    Give him double portions. He committed murder and he will spend the rest of his life in prison. If he wants to try and prove a point, I say let him, what can it hurt? He is going to keep up these antics until he is allowed to represent himself. He does not feel his court appointed attorneys are competent enough to represent him at his trial. He has a right to competent defense and if he feels he can do a better job, why not let him? It is a losing battle and he is just trying to stretch it out as long as he can. It is a strategy used by many top attorneys, but only when the evidence is weak. The only sentence other than death is life in prison, and that will of course depend on who defends him.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 12, 2011 7:39 p.m.

    Warren Jeffs tried jerking the judge's chain in Texas and he was in prison serving his length sentence before he even knew what hit him. Why can't our judges in Utah show half the backbone they have in Texas?

    Mr. Algier's victim deserves justice for his murder that occurred over 4 years ago.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 12, 2011 6:41 p.m.

    Mr. Algier, it is your absolute right to represent yourself.

    I will pray that you do so!

    The only people getting "jerked around" by your proceedings are the taxpayers, the court, and the family and friends of the man who was killed.

    Justice delayed is justice denied, so, please, PLEASE represent yourself and let's move ahead.

    Any other comments I might want to make on Mr. Algier's case might not be allowes, so let's leave it at that.