BYU football: Several stand out at fall camp

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  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 25, 2011 10:49 a.m.


    I agree with almost everything you said except the part about "inexperience at almost all defensive positions". This is simply not true. This year's defense returns at least 10 starters from last year's defense (Fuga, Manumaleuna, Rowley, Richardson, Pendleton, Frazier, Van Noy, Eason, Uale) in addition to Fangupo and Kaveinga who both have D1 experience from USC. In fact, the only positions on defense that lack experience this season are Kat Safety and Boundary Corner which has two talented JC recruits battling for the spot. This should be one of BYU's best defenses in years - perhaps as good or better than the 2007 defense that ranked in the top 10 nationally.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 25, 2011 8:56 a.m.

    If BYU can finish the season with 10 or more wins, including their bowl game, start next season, which will be a little harder ranked in the top 20, they will have a good chance to reach a BCS game next year.

  • Unlucky HEBER CITY, UT
    Aug. 25, 2011 8:04 a.m.

    With inexperience at almost all defensive positions and a young but talented offence, I think 9 or 10 wins is a stretch. I don't see them beating Texas, TCU, Hawaii or OSU on the road. I also think they stumble once or twice at home. If the end up winning 8 that's good. Last time they had so much confidence going into a season, it got very disappointing fast. BYU tends to talk the talk but all too often that can't back it up on the field. A loss to Mississippi will mean a downward spiral. Just don't expect too much from a young team. Next year will be the time for expectations.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    Aug. 24, 2011 11:17 p.m.

    BYU wins 9 maybe 10 this year. Losses to UT, TCU, and possibly Hawaii. BYU struggles on the island. If they win one or more of those they probably lose one of the other 4 tough games, Ole Miss, Utah, UCF, or Ore St. I am way excited but I am also trying to be realistic!

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 10:49 p.m.

    Its going to be a fun first year of independence, BYU has plenty of young talent and depth on both sides of the ball. Im not expecting an undefeated season but ya never know, its certainly not impossible. Realistically, I would say BYU should win 9 or 10 games. The five road games will be tough but I think BYU should be able to win at least 2 or 3 of those and then at home of course vs utah and UCF will be the tougher games but I believe BYU has a very good chance to run the table at home giving them at least 9 or 10 wins.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Aug. 24, 2011 10:26 p.m.

    Cougar Passion, according to the roster by BYU Football, Dallin Cutler is the son of Chuck and Michelle. I would assume he is one of the next generation of greats.

    Classy comments above, All of BYU's games are winnable as belived above. An overacheiving year would certainly put them at 12 - 0 for the year. That would be awesome. However, I think they will stumble somewhere along the way. Hoping not.

    Go Cougars.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 9:40 p.m.

    You know what I am not going to make any predictions because I really am not sure how it will go. I think they will do well, and anything 10 wins or over will be very satisfactory, but there isn't a game on their schedule that they cannot win. I have to assume there will be a let down somewhere and they will lose, but they don't have to.

    Either way I am more excited for this season than I have been for several years.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 24, 2011 8:45 p.m.

    I echo much of what has been said. It is a solid, but unproven team this year. Things I look for this season:

    Doman: if he is average, we will probably lose 2-4, if he is bad 3-5, if he is good 1-3. My biggest hope is that he will mix things up enough that we can play TCU team to team. The last few years Patterson's defensive scheme has owned our offense (in my opinion) above and beyond any talent differences.

    Defense: I know the end of last year was against weak competition, but it was impressive all the same. If the front seven can defend the run solidly and do a decent job of pressuring the QB, our secondary won't have to be spectacular. They may end up being more than adequate, but I hope they won't be tested too severely.

    Offense: Production. Last year at TCU our defense kept us in the game but the offense could manage no more than 3&outs, keeping the defense on the field the entire first half. I don't need Jake to win the Heisman, just score more than the other guys.

  • Cougar Passion Riverton, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 8:43 p.m.

    I don't want to look through a bunch of other articles to find out--is Dallin Cutler Chuck Cutler's son? That would go a long way toward explaining his receiving prowess.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 8:39 p.m.

    I agree with Y Dad: There isn't a game we play this yr we can't win, that being said, going undefeated is unlikely. That doesn't mean I won't be hoping and expecting to have a chance to win each game. I'll be somewhat disappointed with any loss this yr because we have the talent to win each game. Being ready mentally each and every game to start the season will be the key. Coaches and leadership within the players will be the key in that department. Sept. 3rd can't get here fast enough. Go cougs.

  • George Q's Aide-de-Camp North Logan, Utah
    Aug. 24, 2011 8:24 p.m.

    Wow! What a great string of comments -- realistic, yet optimistic, to include PAPA Smurf UTE and forreal people. I too would be very happy with a 10-2 record this year, and I also hope Utah shows well in the PAC10.2.

    Great to be a football fan from Utah this year. Can't wait for the season to begin....

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 24, 2011 7:27 p.m.

    It's hard to justify saying "12-0", but individually, each game is winnable. So, to borrow a cliche, just play them one at a time and see where this whole thing ends up.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 24, 2011 7:23 p.m.

    But I LIKE the blue kool aid! I have a two years supply of blue kool aid.

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 7:21 p.m.

    Rhen Brown was my companion in Argentina a couple years ago.

    He was one of the best missionaries I ever saw. That kid was so stinkin funny. We would exercise everyday to keep him in shape. I hope he does well.

    Go Cougs!

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 6:08 p.m.

    Wow, classy comments from the Ute fans so far! Props to forreal and Papa Smurf. I cant argue with either of your assessments. I think 10 wins is possible for this Cougar team, but not very likely. I think 8 or 9 wins is a more realistic expectation for Cougar fans like myself. They have 5 tough road games plus Utah and UCF at home, and the most likely outcome outcome of those 7 games is they lose to Texas and split the other six. That would leave them with an 8-4 record and a chance to get to 9 in the Armed Forces Bowl. I think 10 wins is certainly possible but that would be over-achieving. Any Cougar fan who thinks they will go undefeated this year is drinking the blue kool-aid. I do think BYU will beat Utah this year though. I just think Utah lost too many play makers on offense from last year, and their offense struggled even then. This season I expect it to struggle even more, in spite of having the great Norm Chow calling the plays.

  • Outsideview Federal Way, WA
    Aug. 24, 2011 5:55 p.m.

    That TCU game is actually one I want as much as the UTah or Texas game. Give me a win over TCU and I would accept an unexpected loss to OSU.

    I dont think TCU will be as good this year and if Doman really has changed the offense and is less predictable then BYU has a good chance in Dallas.

  • forreal people SLC, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 5:39 p.m.

    I think the cougs will go 11-1 if they over-achieve, 10-2 if they play well and win games that they should win and loose games they should loose, or 10-3 if they get a little unlucky somewhere.

    They WILL loose to TCU and will loose to either Texas or Utah, or possibly all three.

    I have looked into UCF, and I really don't see a problem winning that one at home, the cougs are simply the better team hands-down.

    TCU seems to have the cougs number, so I can't ever see myself picking the cougs in that game no matter what the teams records are going into it.

    If OSU turns out to be the fourth loss, and the cougs loose to Utah, that would seem like a way dissapointing season to me.

    If i were a coug fan, 10-2 would be the mark that would make me happy, even if Utah is one of the losses.

    As a utah fan, 9-3 is the mark that will make me happy, even if one of the losses come to the cougs. I've been spoiled lately.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 24, 2011 5:21 p.m.

    I hope for an undefeated season, but don't expect one. Sure our home schedule should be a breeze, except for Utah and UCF. But we have some tough road games. I think it's unrealistic to play Ole Miss, Texas, TCU, OSU and Hawaii on the road and expect to win them all.

    Also, we have a lot of talented players, but many still lack experience. A 9-3 or 10-2 record would be a great season.

    But with the experience we gain this year, next year could be amazing. Look at the starters for this year and we only lose a couple of them for next year and there are solid replacements to back them up.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    To PAPA Smurf UTE: I agree with you with one little difference - that one of the only loses for Utah is to BYU. It is my wish that both BYU and the Utes have great seasons this year.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 24, 2011 4:29 p.m.

    Fair enough, Papa Smurf. At least in this one thing, our prayers cancel each other out!

    Any loss this season is going to sting. Will we probably lose at least one? The odds are never good for running the table, but I agree with you. First four games, and the cougs have to explode out of the blocks.

    Then don't get over-confident, don't look past anybody, which will be hard with a showdown in Dallas looming. Then just don't lose focus in the islands.

    It is a manageable schedule, and good things could happen. Let it start!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    Very classy. I am not over-looking the Old Miss game but I think that the Texas game will be the key to the entire schedule. TCU will be the next biggest challenge with Utah, Central Florida and Hawaii all being games they could lose if they don't play well. Who knows what OSU will be this year. The Texas teams and Old Miss likely won't have top QB play. I wish Utah the best but think their offense will not be as good as what we have seen over the past several seasons. Their defense could win some of the close games for them though.

  • Papa Smurf UTE Herriman, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 4:01 p.m.

    The Y is going to have a formidable team this year. They have a ton of talent coming back, and they have a very managable schedule. They just need to prove it in their first 4 games, then the other 2 games against decent competition. If they start 1-3 or 2-2 and lose one of the other 2 games, and win the rest of their games against the lower WAC teams, then it will be a lot like last year. I dont think that will be the case though. I honestly think that the Y will be a 9 to 10 win team this year for sure. Hopefully, and I really hope and pray that 1 of those losses come from the UTES.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    Nice article. It is hard to pick out the stand outs in fall camp when so many players have performed so well.