Red roundup: Utah's budget grows, but still low for Pac-12

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  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 25, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    "I knew something had to be wrong there."


    And you're it.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 25, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    Ted Miller's post was awesome. He is probably one of my favorite ESPN bloggers. I also love all the "best-case worst-case" stuff. True best case is 13-0 worst case is 0-11 but come on...

    I could see things coming together and the Utes making it to the conference championship, and if you're in the game you have a chance! I don't think they will win it, but it could happen.

    I could also see some things falling apart, injuries, etc and the Utes struggling to win more than 5 games. Both of those scenarios are a bit of a stretch and the truth lies in the middle I think.

    I for one would love to see the Utes represent well in the PAC.

  • AmPatriot Kearns, UT
    Aug. 25, 2011 6:19 a.m.

    So over the years football and sports has been promoted as money makers for the schools, so why all of a sudden are they a liability to eduction funds? Can these schools justify spending $30 million dollars of education funds to promote costly football events that have no return or benefit to education? I don't think we can justify it any longer, waste and excessive cost have to go, including this extravagance.

  • Classless Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 11:03 p.m.

    Seriously, Ted Miller is hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing when I read the best case worst case scenarios that he presented. 14-0 and national title and 0-12 are not realistic. Thus Ted posts somewhat reasonable best case/worst case scenarios. However, he likes to joke around in it. We know that The Pie isn't going to close.

    Although, from Ted's suggestion, I'm wondering if someone is going to grab coach Embree daughter's bike and paint it red now.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 9:20 p.m.

    @Mike Johnson

    So the figure in the last column is the revenue for the fiscal year that just began? That makes alot more sense since none of them showed much of an increase in revenue. I knew something had to be wrong there.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Aug. 24, 2011 9:11 p.m.

    @ Eddie Would Go

    "7-5, Las Vegas Bowl.

    Anything better than that would be a welcome surprise."

    For byu it's 11-1, Armed Forces Bowl.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 9:09 p.m.

    Best case scenario 13-0 and a national title

    Worse case scenario 0-11

    Utes will fall somewhere in the middle of this prediction. All sorts of wackiness and lucky//unlucky bounces can happen to any team. Still I am excited that it is only a few days more till the season kicks off. Utah should at least make a bowl game and win 5-6 of their home games. The road games on the other hand will test the Utes. I am not sure any of the road games can be marked off as W. That is what I like about the Pac12.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 8:21 p.m.

    One will see that Utah's athletic program as a whole is quite lacking in the PAC-12 conference where the institutions strongly believe in having a total sports programs. This is the "Conference of Champions" and I am worried that the U. will need to step up its game quickly or it will be the doormat, along with CU, in a lot of sports...

  • Eddie Would Go FPO, AE
    Aug. 24, 2011 8:09 p.m.

    7-5, Las Vegas Bowl.

    Anything better than that would be a welcome surprise.

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Aug. 24, 2011 6:04 p.m.

    Utah reported to the the Department of Education for FY10 that they had revenues and expenses from athletics of $31,859,038, 4 million more than the amount reported here as budgeted for that year.

    Note, FY10 is July 2009 to June 2010; FY11 is July 2010 to June 2011; and FY12 is July 2011 to June 2012. So, this article is reporting the budget for the current year with the budgets reported at the beginnings of the two previous years. It reflects what they expect to receive and spend (or perhaps a conservative estimate, knowing they could spend more than budgeted if more comes in). For the PAC-12, it reflects the last year of the old PAC-10 contract (which Utah gets no part of), plus the supplemental contract for the extra games (which Utah gets a share of).

    The new contract doesn't start until FY13 (July 2012 to June 2013).

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 5:44 p.m.


    Best case: 11-1 regular season record. Rose Bowl

    Worst case: 9-3 regular season record. Holiday Bowl.

    You must be talking about Stanford or Oregon, because Utah doesn't have a prayer of going 11-1.

    Best case: 8-4, Las Vegas

    Worst case: 5-7, no bowl

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 4:01 p.m.

    Please don't answer the duck?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    Also that list of projected budgets for the pac10 has to be wrong. Doesn't the new tv deal kick in during school year 2012? If so is not everyone supposed to get somewhere in the vicinity of 20 million per year from that deal? Now I understand that isn't an increase of 20 million from the previous deal but that list only shows increases of just under 2 mil for colorado to about 8 mil for Oregon St.

    I know the current pac10 tv deal doesn't pay that much so why aren't all of their budgets jumping up 10 mill or more when that deal kicks in in 2012?

    Either that was really shoddy journalism or else the new tv deal is doing much for any of them.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 3:40 p.m.

    Actually utah will not be closing the budget gap on WSU or anyone else in the pac10 next year. utah gets a partial share of money next year while the others all get full shares, that means the gap will widen, not narrow.

    If everyone else gets 20 million more than they previously were getting and utah gets 10 million more than they were previously getting that means that despite the increase utah gets the gap still widens.

    They then close the gap when they get the full share but they are still behind everyone else unless they find some increases from sources the other schools aren't also getting them from.

    Now that is not to downgrade the increases in rvenue utah is getting, they are substantial, but they aren't closing any gaps on any of their new conference mates, at best they are hanging at the same difference, all that changes is the bottom for each begins higher.

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Aug. 24, 2011 3:24 p.m.

    Best case: 11-1 regular season record. Rose Bowl

    Worst case: 9-3 regular season record. Holiday Bowl.

  • satch Highland, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 3:23 p.m.

    More money doesn't equate to better sports programs. Anyone from Utah would know that.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 24, 2011 12:47 p.m.

    Not The Pie!