Groups say Kennecott in violation of federal pollution rules

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  • Flying Finn Murray, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 8:10 p.m.

    @ byronbca

    Someone tells us the sky is falling and many spread the rumor before verifying it's authenticity. How many of those in favor of shutting down Kennecott completely and laying off all their workers are addicted to cigarettes and are themselves living smokestacks belching smoke and toxic poisons?

  • AzObserver Fredonia, Arizona
    Aug. 9, 2011 6:43 p.m.

    jsf is absolutely right. The EPA is concerned about air pollution, not tons of material moved. The only reason to care about the amount of material moved is if you are trying to hurt their business. It has nothing to do with health or air quality. If they can move more material without exceeding the air quality standards by implementing better dust abatement or some new air quality technology, they shyould be able to do it.

    Now even the lawyers are leaving California...the state has been milked dry through rediculous law suits, taxes and regulations. Don't let it happen to Utah!

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 1:43 p.m.

    byronbca | 11:44 Read the article again, the EPA spokesman said they are within the legal parameters of the laws and regulations that were set. They are not breaking any laws.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 9, 2011 1:05 p.m.

    Re: byronbca | 11:44 a.m. Aug. 9, 2011

    "Kennecott spokeswoman Jana Kettering said the threatened suit is without merit and the mining company is operating within approvals granted by the EPA and the state."

    Until proved otherwise I'll take Kennecott's word as being accurate. The only sad thing about DeChristopher's federal prison sentence is that it wasn't longer.

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 12:09 p.m.

    Your cars cause at least 75% of the polution, maybe you should no longer drive? You have a bus and trax system, you should all use it. That way kennecott will be the biggest polluter in the Salt Lake Valley and my husband can deliver your wishes in his semi without all the terrible drivers around him. Imagine how much better the air would be? Car exhaust is all discretionary pollution.... Do you think, where are the good jobs? who pays the most taxes? There is a trade off for everything. There is no way to produce food without farming, no way to move goods with out trucks, no way to produce clothes without milling, no way to produce cooper without mining. Make Kennecott so it can not expand and profit and you will kill it. California is emptying out, as the jobs leave. Don't believe me look at the lists of empty forclousure homes there.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    Re rifleman:

    Weren't you one of the first people to condemn DeChristopher for breaking the law? Yet here you are defending Kennocott for breaking it. Isn't that hypocritical? Shouldn't mining companies get punished like everyone else for breaking the laws or should big corporations get a free pass?

    And what in the world does going to the bathroom have to do with mining infractions? Are you insinuating that I'm illegally using the toilet? Do you really believe that if I start going to the bathroom once a week that Kennocott will start being more environmentally responsible?

    They broke the law and should have to pay the price just like everyone else.

  • Ok Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 9, 2011 11:01 a.m.

    Kennecott, a foreign owned company focused on profits. They don't seem to care that they cause over 25% of the air pollution in salt lake county. What Kennecott is doing is wrong and letting them expand production is mortally wrong.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 9, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    Re: byronbca | 9:52 a.m. Aug. 9, 2011

    I'll take SL County's air over that brown haze in Los Angeles every time. People that criticize Kennecott for air pollution should be the first to set an example by walking everywhere they go, and limiting the number of times they use the bathroom to once a week.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Aug. 9, 2011 10:50 a.m.

    Everytime you and I exhale we pollute! Oh no! We must be evil!

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 9:52 a.m.

    Really previous posters? Are you really going to make the argument that bad air is good for our economy? Really? So your argument is that it's okay to illegally pollute our environment as long as it creates jobs? What about the people who move from SLC to avoid the pollution, or the people who call in sick for work? Doesn't that hurt our economy more? Is our economy more important than our health and well being?

    Kennocott is responsible for 25% of SL county's air pollution yet they don't come close to providing 1% of SL county's jobs. Every business in the state of Utah has regulations that they have to abide by, why should kennocott, a foreign company with foreign management, be able to break a law that affects every single SL county resident directly?

    It's not okay to break the law to create jobs. It's not okay to illegally pollute our environment to turn a profit. Polluting our environment does not correlate into job creation, it just causes people to call in sick for work.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 9, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    Re: dalefarr | 9:14 a.m. Aug. 9, 2011

    Limiting expansion and growth by definition limits job growth. With today's economy heading into the toilet why would Obama and his liberal followers want to limit job growth?

    Those truly concerned about Utah's air pollution should consider moving to Los Angeles were the air is pure and pristine.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    I am no environmental nut, but you can't just assume a business like this is following guidelines. History has shown that businesses will do what they can to skirt guidelines and push the limits to be more profitable.

    Watchdogs are absolutely needed to keep these guys in line. And guess what - sometimes the watchdogs are wrong - but why you would simply assume they are wrong is beyond me.

    Carte blanche for Kennecott is as unreasonable a position as what you get from extreme environmentalists. Be reasonable, have a conversation, check on issues, don't start and end with name calling.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 9, 2011 9:14 a.m.

    Limiting Kennecott's air pollution isn't going to eliminate any of Kennecott's 1200 employees. However, it does limit expansion and growth.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 8:11 a.m.

    Delta said: Go ahead, sue them. It'll just cost more people their jobs.
    Sorry but the copper is where it is, and it is not realistic to move those jobs anywhere else.

    The rest of the posters remind me of Battle Mountain passing a resolution to not let the EPA test their drinking water
    cause they kept finding arsenic, lead and an assortment of toxic goodies, ya see if no one tests the water there's nothing wrong with it. The EPA was causing the water to be contaminated by testing it. Logicalfor someone drinking that water maybe.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Aug. 9, 2011 8:05 a.m.

    Yep, lets shut them down! One less employer (for liberals, insert polluters here) in the world!

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 9, 2011 7:59 a.m.

    Our economy is on the skids, we're headed into another recession (thanks to Obama), and the tree huggers want to put the brakes on industry. Of course they'll tell you it's all Bush's fault.

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 7:44 a.m.

    If you want to see what an over zealous enviromental policy can do to our state look to California. They are broke!! The only industry that is growing there is Hollywood. They have destroyed their dairy industry, much of the steel and pipe manufacturing, almost all of the lumber industry, and almost all of the mining. Even the orchards are suffering from the enviros and their stupid rules. (We hauled freight there, they are told they can't burn the trimmed limbs and dead trees, then they can't chip them up, now they have to bury them in a big plastic bag?)$500 perhead peryear cattle emissions fee put the dairy business' out. The ones we delivered hay to sold off all their older cows for slaughter and took the really good ones out of state. When any government agency has to much power it will kill the economy. Doctrine and Covenants 121:39

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 7:20 a.m.

    This is "how things work:" 'When a business is successful the environmentalists find a way to hold back production.' If it's not them, it's a labor union. Prosperity doesn't fit the liberal definition of "acceptable" in this country.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 7:15 a.m.

    These doctors (or doctor in this case) are barking up the wrong tree. They just don't like a big company doing what it does best. Provide jobs and make money. Maybe this doctor is mad because Kennecott removed him from their health plan.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 6:16 p.m.

    Enviro extremists cots this country thousands of jobs and drive up costs of all sorts of products and services.

    On the other hand, the enviro folks do create jobs for lawyers, if anyone thinks that expanding that industry is good for the country.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 4:14 p.m.

    We don't have enough jobs in the US as it is and the eco-greenies want to sue one of the few American companies that is left.

    Go ahead, sue them. It'll just cost more people their jobs.