International refugees, Latino immigrants compete for service-sector jobs

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  • Watch Dog Provo, UT
    July 8, 2011 10:32 a.m.

    "...Hispanic population is trapped in the immigration debate..."

    Really? How so? This is some generalization!!! I hope. Unless of course, ALL the Hispanic population here in this country has come slinking across our border without the proper paperwork required to without being in violation of our laws. (If the Des News is willing to print this statement, then it must be true...I had no idea that this was the case!)

    As many times that those of my persuasion (to follow the rule of law) in immigration matters has been called racist by Mr. Yappias and his crew, it seems that perhaps they are the actual racists among us. The difference between the two groups that they seems concerned about is only whether they are here legally - or not. Doesn't that make Mr. Yappias and his group the racists?

    I think perhaps so....

  • KM Cedar Hills, UT
    July 6, 2011 4:26 p.m.

    While political parties compete for their vote. Should we be worried about the politicians using (redistributing) our tax money for votes? Nah.

  • Gruffi Gummi Logan, UT
    July 6, 2011 3:26 p.m.

    Where is your compassion NOW, Tony?

  • SLars Provo, UT
    July 6, 2011 12:12 p.m.

    This is a very interesting article. When Americans complain about illegal immigrants taking our jobs, we get no help. No government agencies stand up for us. No organizations complain, no media attention. Yet let honest refugee's take jobs from those here illegally, and, well you know the rest.

    "To do it right you have to think about both groups."

    That should be mandatory for all people in government. Accept the fact that there is a difference between legal and illegal. Realize that walking accoss the border does not give you permission to be here, or to work. Nor does it give you all the rights of a citizen.

    Membership in this country is exclusive, you have to be invited in. No one should be allowed to steal it, because they don't want to follow our laws.

    E-verify must be mandatory for all business, with fine/loss of business licence. It has been approved by the Supreme court.

  • workingforabetterfuture SLC, UT
    July 6, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    When I fly the attendant tells the passengers that in an emergency an air mask will come down from the ceiling and that I must first secure my own air mask before helping other passengers.seems pretty logical.

    The USA is currently experiencing extreme unemployment, homelessness, starving children, our own drug lord problems, etc. which I personally feel is an emergency. So why don't we stop giving people here illegally benefits and assistance along with a platform to fight us for even more and make them want to go back to their country of citizenship to fight there and use the skills they have obtained here to make their homeland better? We are dying, why are we allowing others countrymen to pull us down faster and also go down with us?

  • workingforabetterfuture SLC, UT
    July 6, 2011 11:48 a.m.

    Every time I fly the attendant tells the passengers that in an emergency situation an air mask will come down from the ceiling and that I am to secure my air mask before helping any other passengers with their air masks.

    Our country is not secure from extreme unemployment, homeless, starving children, our own drug lords, etc. So why are we "saving" other countries people while we just sit and suffocate? Shouldn't we instead send all of the illegal people back to the country they actually have citizenship to (now that they have gained skills to help their country) and let them use their wonderful political fighting skills to right their country instead of stay here with our country dying?

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2011 10:00 a.m.

    "Hopefully in three or four years from now the office I work for will change names and things will improve."

    What do you mean, CHANGE NAMES? Is this YOUR business, to alter the agenda and mission of DWS?

    Or is some special interest with another pro-illegal-alien agenda seeking to promote this?

    No! NONE of these jobs for ILLEGAL ALIENS, when there are jobless Americans who WILL do these jobs. And if they won't, perhaps you hotels aren't being fair in your wage! Gee, aren't you charging enough for a night's stay in your hotels? There is NO justification for you rich hotels paying substandard wages!

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2011 9:55 a.m.

    "...has brought to light some of the angst the Latinos have with refugees."

    Angst?? This is emblematic of illegal aliens' outrageously false sense of entitlement -- to America's jobs, for example.

    "The workers' concern is they won't be able to satisfy requirements of the new federal E-Verify system ...and they will loose their jobs to refugees."

    Nice euphemism for ILLEGAL, Deseret News!

    "...trapped in the immigration debate..."

    Another nice euphemism for ILLEGAL, Deseret News!

    And why wouldn't they be able to satisfy those e-verify requirements?

    Because they are illegal, of course.

    Fire and deport these illegals who are stealing these jobs to which they are not entitled. We have too many legal residents in this state who need these jobs and who WILL work these jobs.

    "[Brown] said he would like to see his office expand to offer Latino immigrants the services now offered to refugees." "To do it right you have to think about both groups.

    NO! NO! NO! You think about AMERICANS, who need these jobs, along with legal refugees. And pay them fair!

    You DON'T give these jobs to illegals!

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    July 6, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    @CJ: You hit the nail on the head with that one. America needs to stop trying to save the world and start focusing on saving itself. Trying to help everyone who needs it is a big part of what got us in this mess to begin with.

    The whole "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses etc." is a wonderful ideal. But it's just that, *an ideal*. In real world application it simply isn't practical and I hope people are realizing that.

    We can help those who need it but we also need to make sure to help ourselves. If America wants to keep on being the shining beacon of freedom to the rest of the world we need to spend some time cleaning up first.

    People give to charity, but if they give all they have they end up being the ones needing charity. Even the Churches of the world only ask for a small percentage. Because they know that their members have needs too, and you've gotta put food in your own belly before you feed someone else.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 6, 2011 8:14 a.m.

    Almost every quote by Yapias in this article says his constituents are illegal.

    The workers' concern is they won't be able to satisfy requirements of the new federal E-Verify system, which allows businesses to determine the eligibility of their employees to work in the United States, and they will loose their jobs to refugees. not a problem if youre legal.

    "They have papers. (referring to the refugees) - Legal Latinos do, too

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement is seen as a communitywide threat, not a help - only if youre illegal.

    As long as their community leaders continue to condone illegal behavior, the problem will never get fixed.

  • CJ Murray, UT
    July 5, 2011 10:21 p.m.

    The plain fact is we don't NEED any of them, we have millions of unemployed Americans. We need to spend our time helping them and quit bringing in legal ones and send illegals home. Get serious people, everyone in the world isn't entitled to American citizenship as though it were some kind of a divine right. The whole immigration debate is mass insanity except for a few who actually understand that we aren't the repository for the countries of the world who are trying to get rid of their excess populations they can't support. WE CAN'T support them either! We can't even support our own right now.

  • praxis Salt Lake City, UT
    July 5, 2011 9:52 p.m.

    As usual, lines are blurred in the article by using the term "immigrants" when it's clear that the group being referred to are illegal immigrants - such as "...housekeeping workers... getting letters from Immigration and Customs Enforcement with requests for more documentation about their residency status."

    I hope the people of Utah are listening as illegal immigrants complain that refugees with "legal status" to be in the U.S. are taking the service-sector jobs that the illegals feel they are ENTITLED to solely because they have been "here longer and entrenched" in those jobs. Crazy.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    July 5, 2011 8:41 p.m.

    Its quite simple really: LEGAL refugees (with the required paperwork)are entitled to apply and accept ANY work position.

    ILLEGAL immigrants (trespassers)aren't.

    Mr. Yapias needs to learn about those major differences regarding workers.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    July 5, 2011 8:31 p.m.

    Legal Latinos are on equal footing. A state official can't figure out that it's not their ethnic group that makes the difference, but their legal status.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 5, 2011 8:07 p.m.

    It sure sounds like Mr. Yapias is fixated on the racial identity or ethnic origins of some workers as being the only factor that makes them worth having or protecting.

    Further, it sounds like he is ignoring the quation of workers being here legally or illegally, and demanding all be treated the same, just because of their race, regardless of immigration staus.

    We used to call that racism, but now we call it community activism or some such euphenism.

    Refugees need jobs too, and if they are here legally, they have every right to apply for any job they are qualified to do. May the best worker win!

    And, all people here illegally need to go home, and free up jobs for people of any race or ethnicity who are here legally. Bet Mr. Yapias will not support that.