Let's be real, it is because, generally speaking, he over samples Democrats.
I understand Dan Jones to be an outstanding person but it seems that whenever a
Democratic political poll comes up they always seem to do better than what
actually happens. I may be wrong but it seems that way.
Matheson's father was either the first or second best governor in the history of
our state, that alone makes him worthy of a look.
How do people justify wanting world peace and stopping the bombings and
killings, but, at the same time support the slaughter of unborn children? That
has never made sense to me. If it's wrong to slaughter people who have been
born, then what gives people the right to slaughter unborn people?
I think Gov. Herbert will not make it out of convention, he will be beat (at the
caucur level) by a hyper-conservative. If Matheson does not get a fair shake on
the gerrymander, he might run. That will be some BIG fun.
Pagan: No one should be legislating a woman's Uterus. Any woman in this day
and age knows how Not to Become Pregnant. I can understand why some women would
not want to have a baby. What I can absolutely not understand is why don't they
use protection? Then, if they do get accidently pregnant what gives them the
right to terminate a newly formed life? Once that life is inside of a womans
body, she has no right to kill it. A woman's first priority should be for her
new child, but the unconscionable selfishness of todays society gives her the
right to murder an unborn child. If you dont think an unborn baby is a baby,
look at the ultrasounds of the unborn. They breath, they eat, they suck their
thumbs, and they cry. These precious unborn are treated as a tumor to be ripped
from their mothers bodies even though they are alive. How cold and cruel. A
woman who does this changes her life forever. But that does save the unborn
babys life. So many people want to adopt babies, yet they are murdered before
having a chance to live.
I'm not sold on Matheson. He sits out on votes, unless he is needed by his
democrate party. Otherwise he tries to play the moderate democrate and everyones
buddy. Unless his party needs his vote, he just sits back and does nothing. It's
not until things are to the wire, that you find out what Matheson truly supports
and believes in.That is not the person we need as Governor. I need
someone that I know how they feel and will respond to issues. We don't need a
fence sitter, that jumps on the convenient band wagon.
Re: I M LDS 2 | 11:17 a.m. June 30, 2011 If you don't like the way
Gov. Herbert deals with illegal aliens you certainly can't like the way Obama
has turned his eyes the other way on the problem.
Matheson may be a Democrat by name, but he is really much more a moderate
Republican by his voting record. He is fiscally conservative (one of the
"Blue Dog Democrats"), something the far right-wing likes. He is
essentially socially conservative, something the LDS in Utah like. Though he
agrees with the vast majority of peer-reviewed scientific community that the
climate is changing, he does not seem to have a plan for addressing the issue
beyond saying who cannot participate in enforcement (not the EPA, in his view).
He voted down the health care act. So there is no real danger with
the "Democrat" label to the supposed wishes of most Utahns, though
many in Utah vote knee-jerk Republican, no matter what someone's voting record
states. Though I do wish Matheson would either be a real Democrat (if only for
health care issues and the environment) or simply become a Republican, I would
still support him over Herbert. I cannot see Matheson ever giving the losing
party a $13 million consolation prize.
I can't complain about open pit coal mining, DOT payoffs, Three guest worker
bills instead of the enforcement bills he promised Utah's citizens, or closing
off stream access to Utah's fisherman, against a court ruling, so the state can
buy access and charge the fishermen? A deal that will benefit the Ault family up
Provo canyon, who received a bridge from the state to provide access to the now
abandon Provo trail above Vivian Park.The Aults are Gary's
relatives. There are plenty of reasons to vote against him.
Herbert has proven himself to be a shill for the "cheap labor" lobby
that wants to exploit illegal immigrants and continue to treat our borders like
a holy sieve. This lines the pockets of these exploitative organizations,
contributes to unemployment among legal US citizens, increases gang activity,
and threatens the security of this State and this Nation. It is a direct threat
to our way of life.Herbert should be placed among the unemployed so
he knows whose interests he should have (but failed to) fight for.
Re: Pagan | 8:32 a.m. June 30, 2011 "Utah will vote Republican no
matter what. They. Do."That's probably because a majority of
Utahns believe in the sanctity of life and think unborn babies should have the
same protections as any condemned man sitting on death row. When the Democrats
come around to our way of thinking I'll be glad to vote for them.
Gov. Herbert is amazing when it comes to creating jobs, he has been a champion
inbringing companies to the state of Utah, in my opinion he is an
excellent governor! The roads and highways are constantly being improved he has
kept Utah a very well streamline managed state, you really appreciate it more
when you travel out of the state. He has my vote without a doubt.
After all the Gov. has done in the past year to harm this state, still half of
the people surveyed back him? I don't think so.
I'm one of the "extremists" who think the Guv. should put the
interests of ACTUAL LEGAL Utah citizens before those of illegal trespassers.16 months is plenty of time to find that person. But, possibly NOT
ENOUGH time for the Chamber of Commerce to convince him/her that illegal aliens
should COME FIRST!
Another questionable Dan Jones Poll? But truth be told you will not find a more
staunch GOPer than myself and I would not vote for Herbert if he were running
against Osama Bin Laden......He is a RINO who votes like a RINO....He doesn't
deserve to represent the GOP...he will be defeated in the primary!Go
Pagan is incorrect. The population of Utah is not 45% democrat, but that is the
percentage that would currently vote for Matheson. Utahans are more independent
than Pagan is giving them credit for.The republican party really
needs to look hard at who they nominate to run. Herbert is very beatable. Just
putting the incumbent up is not a no-brainer in this case.I am not a
registered republican, so take it for what its worth, I would vote Matheson over
Am I the only reader confused about this article? Which race does it refer
to?"Gov. Gary Herbert would win a GOP primary election, a new
poll shows, but it might be a different story if Utah's lone Democrat in
Congress, Jim Matheson, gets in the race." But nowhere does the article
explain which race? For senator? Congressman? Governor?I can only
guess it is referring to the upcoming race for governor.
I would vote for Matheson over Herbert, because of Herbert's support of HB116.
Jim Matheson at least "listens" to the will of the people, Herbert did
not, he's toast.
* 'State budget is $50M short of projection' - By Lisa Riley Roche - Deseret
News - 09/08/10 "This is good news, and shows that Utah
continues to lead the nation in prudent fiscal management, careful budgeting and
positive response from the private sector," the governor (Herbert)
said.' *'Herbert seeks disaster declaration for Utah as a result of
floods' - By Amy Joi O'Donoghue - DSNews - 01/21/11 'SALT LAKE CITY
Gov. Gary Herbert is asking President Barack Obama to declare Utah a major
disaster in the wake of last month's storms that produced record-breaking
precipitation in Kane and Washington counties.' *Gov. Herbert
declares state of emergency as 2011 flood season nears climax By Ladd Brubaker
DSNews 06/27/11 The declaration will allow local officilas in areas
affected by flooding to get help more quickly from agencies such as the Utah
National Guard and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said Utah Division
of Emergency Management spokesman Joe Dougherty. So much for not
accepting 'federal funds'. 1st in line for bailouts. $13
million in federal dollars wasted, while America struggles with debt.
This is not a reflection on the leadership of either person. Utah
will vote Republican no matter what. They. Do. *'E-mail raises new
questions about influence of Herbert campaign contributions' - By John Daley and
Lisa Riley Roche - Deseret News - 09/28/10 Gov. Gary Herbert
"should remember" that the construction company boss on his meeting
schedule is a $50,000 first-time donor who wants to talk "about
transportation construction and issues within the state." $13
MILLION federal dollars spent on the loosing bid. While America struggles with
debt. Not six months later... *'Herbert signs records
bill HB477 after rally for veto' - By Paul Koepp, Deseret News - 03/08/11 'More than 100 people gathered near the steps leading up to...' Herbert tries to pass a bill that would FACTUALLY prevent you from
reading his emails! Great 'servant of the people', right?
He was not elected in the first place. He would never had been elected. Utah
needs the counterbalance of another Mathieson.
Go Jim Matheson. You are a stellar representative of the great state of Utah.
You are balanced and responsible. I'd support you either way.
The Democrats had every chance to vote Herbert out of office last November when
Salt Lake County Mayor Peter Corroon challenged him. As it was Herbert trounced
Corroon 64.2% to 31.8%. Corroon couldn't even carry Salt Lake County.What hurt Corroon the most? Obama.
The only description which crosses my mind to acknowledge Governor Herbert's
leadership is " leadership by pushing a rope."
Don't get your hopes up Gary, its a long way off and we aren't forgetting HB116,
you can count on it. See how many of them can vote for you. Even if you legalize
them they will vote for Democrats.
If Matheson would make a committment to public education instead of the smoke
and mirrors approach the Utah Legislature makes.....I think he would win. We
are not preparing our children for the future....we're barely getting them by.
With all due respect, Herbert did not prove he is an "astute
campaigner" by beating Coorroon - but Corroon did prove that he is a
really monumentally lousy campaigner.Regardless, an interesting
conundrum for Republicans - give Jim a safe Congressional district, or try to
gerrymander him out of Congress and perhaps end up with him in the governor's
Another Dan Jones poll? Or just as bad, KSL/DesNews. You can't trust these
polls. But I won't be surprised when a real conservative challenges Herbert.
Herbert told the people of Utah he would not seek re-election after Gov.
Huntsman left. Lied to your faces about that. Gave away 13 million dollars that
could have gone anywhere else than where it did. Tried to do Utah wrong with the
GRAMA act. Backfired for sure. Time to move away from the GOP that has oppressed
this great state, and time to move toward the open-minded side of things. Thanks
for nothing Gary :)
Maybe Herbert need to give out more 13 million $ contracts fir doing nothing in
order to secure more votes.