Police cite Vernal man accused of paying bill with 2,500 pennies

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  • flyinglow Twin Falls, ID
    June 7, 2011 5:54 p.m.

    The court and police department will probably take the $140.00 fine and buy doughnuts. And buy them with pennies. LOL

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    June 7, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    I double-dog dare him to do the same with the $140

  • cowshed Provo, Utah
    June 7, 2011 4:26 p.m.

    It's nice things are so quiet in Vernal that the police don't have anything better to do than get involved in a civil matter where no one was threatened or harmed.

  • TWayne Castle Rock, CO
    June 7, 2011 10:42 a.m.

    Seriously, Utah has to be the most uptight state in the nation. The incident upset clinic staff? West's behavior served "no legitimate purpose."?

    First the dragnet that was put out on the teens who rapped into the McDonald's drive thru and now this.

    Is it really this slow in Utah? Amazing.

  • Ms Molli Bountiful, Utah
    June 7, 2011 8:57 a.m.

    This is a case of two wrongs don't make a right. If he had paid his bill in pennies by delivering them in some sort of container, nothing would have transpired. But you don't walk into a business and dump a huge pile of coins on top of someones desk. He deserved the fine.

  • mark my words Twin Falls, ID
    June 7, 2011 12:42 a.m.

    People maybe afraid to visit Vernal, knowing the cops are harassing the locals. As a tourist, I probably won't visit there this year.

  • nitestik FORT MYERS, FL
    June 6, 2011 11:10 p.m.

    Are you kidding me? Arresting a guy for disorderly conduct because he didn't stack his pennies properly?

    The police and the clinic just bought themselves a lawsuit that'll cost each a lot more than $25. Title 42 of the United States Code section 1983 will provide the vehicle. And pursuant to section 1988, when this guy wins, his lawyer gets attorneys' fees.

    Lends an all new meaning to the adage about being penny wise and pound foolish.

  • wild horses Twin Falls, ID
    June 6, 2011 11:05 p.m.

    If the receptionist can't handle her own stress, she shouldn't be working in a doctor's office where traumatic actions occur.

  • Big Rock Salt Lake City, UT
    June 6, 2011 10:49 p.m.

    If he gets fined, I'll be the first to step up and save as many pennies as I can for him. 14000 is that many.

  • mosbyjim Vernal, UT
    June 6, 2011 10:12 p.m.

    I would have payed it with Trident Layers Gum.

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    June 6, 2011 8:10 p.m.

    "The incident upset clinic staff, said Campbell, adding that West's behavior served "no legitimate purpose."

    Utah Code 76-9-102. Disorderly conduct.
    (1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct if:
    (a) he refuses to comply with the lawful order of the police to move from a public place, or knowingly creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition, by any act which serves no legitimate purpose; or
    (b) intending to cause public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, he:
    (i) engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior;

    This is related to the common law tort of Assault:
    "In common law, assault is the tort of acting intentionally and voluntarily causing the reasonable apprehension of an immediate harmful or offensive contact." (Wikipedia)

    The Disorderly Conduct citation is a nod to the verbal assault, coupled with an aggressive act when he tossed a large quantity of metal disks at the office staff, which caused apprehension among the staff.

    The cops may not be so far off-base here, though they could easily have suggested that the man apologize and let it go at that.

  • Ok Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 6, 2011 7:04 p.m.

    The man should request a jury trial. I don't think he would be convicted. I know if I were a member of the jury that I could not convict him. It would take all my power to just stop laughing at the cop as he gave his testimony.

  • Flame53 Mesa, AZ
    June 6, 2011 7:02 p.m.

    Do you really think this is about the pennies? After hearing about disgruntled employees, mad ex-husbands, disaffected students, (etc. etc.) taking a gun into a school or place of business, I don't blame them for calling the police if they felt threatened or intimidated. Easy for armchair (or computer keyboard) quarterbacks to make fun. We weren't there.

  • SG in SLC Salt Lake City, UT
    June 6, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    As has been previously stated, the portion of the law that applies to the Legal Tender issue is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103 (also cited previously in this comment thread).

    In practice, it may not be quite that absolute, though. From the U.S. Department of the Treasury website:

    This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy.

  • Morgan Duel Taylorsville, UT
    June 6, 2011 4:14 p.m.

    What happened to "Common Sense?"

  • Northern Logan, UT
    June 6, 2011 4:11 p.m.

    The cops are way off base even responding to a call on a situation like this, let alone writing a citation. Don't they have any "real" crimes they could be working on instead of wasting time on this?

    Please start FIRING police who more and more abuse the power WE THE PEOPLE have GIVEN them.

    The Police and policing are out of control.

    June 6, 2011 3:45 p.m.

    The problem was dumping all of the pennies on the counter and floor. The man should have just politely placed the bag of pennies on the counter and just left. 2500 pennies is a lot and I am sure there was a huge mess. As much as I can relate to the gentleman's outrage he was wrong to do it in the manner he did. Disorderly conduct is probably a suitable charge.

  • hmmm interesting Salt Lake City, UT
    June 6, 2011 3:04 p.m.

    GiuseppeG: The policeman quoted in the article very carefully specified, he caused "alarm" and his behavior served "no legitimate purpose."


    Be sure you don't hang out at the park doing nothing legitimate such as cloud watching or smelling the roses.

    June 6, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    For all of you claiming 'they must accpet' since it's 'legal tender,' I hope your boss pays you in legal tender pennies, every bit of change you get from a store is given to you in legal tender pennies, and that your IRS refunds come to you in legal tender pennies. Ya'll are being a bit dense here.

  • driveaholic SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 6, 2011 2:38 p.m.

    Im with Kimd @ 7:55 Would be nice to get a penny drive for the clinic..Penny in a card folks?

  • The Virginian LEESBURG, VA
    June 6, 2011 1:33 p.m.

    The law is clear that the coins are legal tender:
    31 USC Sec. 5103
    "Legal tender
    United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes
    and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks)
    are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues.
    Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts."

    If he made the offer to tender payment, and was refused, the doctor's office has only 2 paths to pursue under law: 1) write off the debt, or 2) accept the payment. Of course, they could always negotiate with him to see whether they could work out another arrangement. The one path NOT open to them is to take any action in a court seeking to compel the payment, since tender was made.

    If the local police arrested him solely for attempting to pay his bill, there isn't much of a case -- although the police officer's sworn statement will be legally-acceptable proof that tender was made.

    I wonder what happened AFTER he made the tender of payment. I think THAT had to be what caused the police to arrest him.

  • ADN Weiser, ID
    June 6, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    Whatever happened to customer service. I haven't seen madness like this since living in a X-communist country in Eastern Europe.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    June 6, 2011 12:54 p.m.

    I feel a Supreme Court case coming on. Last I heard, pennies were legal tender.

  • GiuseppeG Murray, Utah
    June 6, 2011 12:40 p.m.

    Below is the disorderly conduct code. Wonder what part they charged this dude on?

    76-9-102. Disorderly conduct.
    (1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct if:
    (a) he refuses to comply with the lawful order of the police to move from a public place, or knowingly creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition, by any act which serves no legitimate purpose; or
    (b) intending to cause public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, he:
    (i) engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior;
    (ii) makes unreasonable noises in a public place;
    (iii) makes unreasonable noises in a private place which can be heard in a public place; or
    (iv) obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic.
    (2) "Public place," for the purpose of this section, means any place to which the public or a substantial group of the public has access and includes but is not limited to streets, highways, and the common areas of schools, hospitals, apartment houses, office buildings, transport facilities, and shops.
    (3) Disorderly conduct is a class C misdemeanor if the offense continues after a request by a person to desist. Otherwise it is an infraction.

    June 6, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    People people coins are legal tender, here is the law:

    § 5103. Legal tender

    United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    June 6, 2011 12:29 p.m.

    @Tyde, When did it become illegal to be rude?

    June 6, 2011 11:49 a.m.

    I think he got the disorderly conduct charge not for paying with pennies, but by being rude and dumping them all over the counter. He was probably mouthing off being rude thinking he was making some kind of statement. If he had paid in rolls on pennies or even put a big bag of them on the counter, he wouldn't have been cited. No doubt he upended it scattering them all over the place, intentionally being disruptive. I mean I get it, he is taking a stand and sticking it to them by wanted to pay in pennies. The issue is not the value or the coin itself, it's how he went about it. I think this guy deserves the fine and he should check his attitude before he unloads on some poor unsuspecting minimum wage medical clinic schlub.

  • Mike1970 HOUSTON, TX
    June 6, 2011 11:35 a.m.

    Pennies, like all US coinage is not simply legal tender. It is "limited legal tender". As such, it must be accepted as payment of obligations to the following limits:
    Quarters: $10
    Dimes: $5
    Nickels: $2
    Pennies: 35 cents.

    The clerk was required to accept 35 cents in pennies and revise the debt to be $24.65.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    June 6, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    Last time I checked the penny was still a form of legal tender in the United States. It's cash, they MUST accept it.

    If the courts fine this guy, I hope he pays that fine in pennys as well. It's time more people started taking a stand against the ridiculousness of modern government.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    June 6, 2011 10:37 a.m.

    Gotta admit, kind of funny. Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with Todd Gack.

    But come on folks, lets be adults. If you walked into the grocery store, dumped a bucket of change all over the counter and called it good, you deserve a kick in the you know what.

    You want to pay in pennies fine, buy some coin sleaves, count it out, and drop that on the counter. Don't throw a temper tantrum at the office. Act like a grown up.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    June 6, 2011 10:28 a.m.

    What kind of a cop would write a citation for this? Probably one who figures he's the most important person in town and abuses his authority as a cop....oh wait, that's about 90% of the cops. This guy should fight this all the way, make a mockery of the Vernal cops until they decide to stop acting like every person is a criminal and realize they aren't nearly as important as they think they are. Can't wait for my next trip to Vernal, just so we can laugh at the cops there.

  • Logical1 COCOA, FL
    June 6, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    It is legal currency, The bill was disputed but the guy paid anyway with cash. The police should have cited the clinic for making a false complaint.

  • Yorgus Manila, UT
    June 6, 2011 9:08 a.m.

    My doctor is a physician at Basin Clinic in Vernal. While he is an excellent physician, I too have been exasperated by the office staff of the clinic on more than one occasion. They seem not to be well-trained in the requirements of HIPAA, and most of them could take a lesson or two in courtesy.

    I had a run-in with them over billing a few months ago. They decided, 14 months after the fact, that I owed them about $100. I (and my insurance carrier) had paid each bill as it arrived. The attitude of Basin Clinic's front desk staff was that it was my responsibility to prove that I didn't owe the money, not theirs to prove that I did.

    If it were not for the need for continuity with my doctor, I wouldn't go back.

  • Jeffrey Wilbur Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 6, 2011 8:48 a.m.

    Gee, and cops wonder why the public has a general loathing and mistrust of them!

    Pennies are absolutely legal tender, and the man had every right to pay with them. Just because he was proving a point is completely irrelevant to the law.

    The fact that cops actually issues him a citation for this just goes to show just how ignorant and apathetic they are toward the actual laws.

    All I can say is that I'm just so glad the cops took the time to deal with this dangerous criminal, instead of wasting their time with all the harmless gang members and thugs out there.

  • seeswater Vernal, UT
    June 6, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    @RBN - Dude, this is Vernal. Every day's a slow day in Vernal.

  • BP Salt Lake City, UT
    June 6, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    Every time I hear about someone paying a fine in pennies, they end up throwing them all over the place, which leads to the police coming. I would like to hear about someone calmly paying a disputed bill in pennies. It is legal tender, but I can't think of a business that wouldn't put up a fight when asked to process 2500 pennies.

    Excellent point on the copper pennies, phyllo!

  • Aggielove Junction city, Oregon
    June 6, 2011 8:20 a.m.

    A penny a day keeps the doctor away.

  • mistletoe Sandy, Utah
    June 6, 2011 8:18 a.m.

    He could of at least rolled them! I kind of laughed at first. But you know... he wanted to bring attention to himself. And he got exactly what he wanted and more... a fine for his poor behavior to boot. I think what he did speaks a lot for his character.

    June 6, 2011 7:55 a.m.

    I've got a bunch of pennies I would like to send to him to help him pay the new fine. This is ridiculous. The hospital was in the wrong, he paid the bill that they said he owed. Maybe we could all send postcards to the hospital with pennies taped to them so that they could hire themselves some new staff.

  • Muttley PROVO, UT
    June 6, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    Looks like Utah has crossed the line into Police State.

    1) The man (regardless of his attitude) paid in legal tender
    2) It is the responsibilty of the payment reciever to verify the amout tendered
    3) If the medical office wants to restrict the ability of patrons to pay in certain denominations / methods then it needs to have the policy clearly posted and printed on forms provided at time of intake.
    4) To quote the President (which I am loathe to do) "The police acted stupidly"

    Frankly it was a merchant client dispute that should have never had police involvement and it is a pathetic sign of the times that they called the police.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    June 6, 2011 6:48 a.m.

    Pennies are legal tender. Vernal is looking foolish around the nation. Is there a counter-suit somewhere in here? Maybe the local law enforcement head will be voted out the next election.

    Advice to Vernal law enfocement - rescind the ticket and apologize asap. Bury this issue deep and hope all will forget it.

  • OnlyInUtah Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 6, 2011 6:42 a.m.

    The clinic over reacted. They should have thanked him for his payment, asked him to take a seat while the counted the pennies (they could have let him sit for hours) and then after verifying that the correct amount was there.. given him a receipt and sent him on his way with a smile. He'd be the one feeling foolish. But by their reaction and getting the police involved they've got a lot of negative publicity, a reputation for having no compassion, and they are the ones looking foolish.

    Better luck next time.

    June 6, 2011 4:53 a.m.

    Granted, dumping 2500 pennies on the counter might have upset staff or even other patients, but does it really rise to the level of disorderly conduct? Did he damage anything, speak profanities or threaten anyone? It sounds like this is a case for the ACLU to counter-sue the city, and doctor's office if they requested the citation.
    What is happening to this country and the preservation of personal freedom???

  • ItTakesFaith MARYSVILLE, CA
    June 6, 2011 4:42 a.m.

    It appears that we are missing the mark, here. Seems to me that this is a classic case of assault with a deadly penny (multiple counts!) with intent to pay a bill... serious by any standard...! As a civil society, we cannot tolerate this behavior! First, he pays a twenty-five dollar tab with pennies... Next, he buys a car with $1 bills... Pretty soon, he's making real estate purchases with twenties... utter chaos...! We simply must stop anyone from making purchases with money they actually have! Doesn't anyone remember that according to the "new" American way, purchases must be made with government-loaned monies (likely loaned to those who have no intention of ever repaying, or ability to repay those loans)... It's obvious that in this new world, deep debt is considered much preferable to pennies, any day... Heaven help us...!

  • Michael Sharette SANDY, UT
    June 6, 2011 3:09 a.m.

    This is outrageous. It may be immature and obnoxious to dump pennies out on the counter/floor of a clinic, but it is not a crime. There were no damages (disrupting business is a looong stretch), physical or otherwise.

    Even more disturbing is the behavior of the police. The clinic called the cops, and when they arrived on the scene, the employees of the clinic identified the man (presumably using information garnered from his medical records), and made a big fuss about his behavior. The cops pursued him and cited him.

    As you read this, you are probably sitting in front of your computer. But if I called the cops right now and told them that I just saw you speeding down the freeway at 95 mph, and they showed up at your door with a citation for traveling 30 mph over the speed limit, would that be just? Of course not. Our public servants can't just go around writing citations based on the heresay of disgruntled citizens. That's not how this works, and the police who responded should be ashamed of themselves.

  • rnoble Pendleton, OR
    June 6, 2011 12:08 a.m.

    i think he should have paid the bill with susan b anthonies---after all she is noted for fighting injustices---besides much easier to carry than 2500 pennies---

    wouldn't have been so disrupting to the office of course since it would be much easier to count---

  • John Robert Mallernee Gulfport, MS
    June 5, 2011 11:53 p.m.

    This story is now on the YAHOO! web site opening page.

  • John Robert Mallernee Gulfport, MS
    June 5, 2011 10:24 p.m.

    This story is now on the "Drudge Report" web site!!!

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    June 5, 2011 8:47 p.m.

    Well,.......I certainly will feel a lot safer now, should I happen to be in Vernal, because the police don't mess around with trying to sort out any kind of trouble, they just cite you and then you can explain it to the judge. Just think what life would be like if every police department operated that way.....maybe we could give Cube a run for its money. (Sarcasm)

  • phyllo HOLT, MI
    June 5, 2011 8:37 p.m.

    IF in fact he paid with any pennys dating 1981 or older,he actiually paid MORE that the fine due. pennys minted before 81 are pur copper and worth about 2.8 cents right now!

  • liberate Sandy, UT
    June 5, 2011 7:33 p.m.

    2500 pennies is probably worth more than any other method of payment, particularly three pieces of paper (two tens and a five). The clinic should have been happy about it.

  • stryder AUSTIN, TX
    June 5, 2011 7:20 p.m.

    So if I paid with a $20 and five $1s and the $1s fell on the ground, I'd get fined? Immature, sure, but the money is legit, So perhaps can pay his $140 fine in pennies as well, just roll them first.

  • Outback_Jon EARLTON, NY
    June 5, 2011 7:05 p.m.

    I really hope that this guy gets 14,000 pennies ready in case the judge decides to fine him.

  • Gary1206 WAXHAW, NC
    June 5, 2011 6:52 p.m.

    Joejohnson is right...but don't make us out to be anarchists. It's legal tender so get over it.

    Shamrock, why is the bill payer a doofus? Why are you a sheeple?

    Why are poeple so quick to come down on the side of the system/gov't and not the individual?

  • joejohnson ANAHEIM, CA
    June 5, 2011 6:19 p.m.

    Don't be Useful Idiots! These days its seems way too many people are primed and ready to follow the herd to the slaughter. Paying in pennies is not a crime, being irate with office staff is not a crime, Dumping money on a desk is not a crime. A crime is what the police department did in issuing a citation in this matter, and the medical office for harassing this gentleman who didn't bend down and take it in the rear for them. Wake up before our own country becomes a gulag!

  • ozzyman1104 Medina, TN
    June 5, 2011 5:57 p.m.

    I believe Penny's ARE legal tender, it is those Illegal Federal Reserve "NOTES" they are actually just i.o.u' s !

  • beachbumct NEW YORK, NY
    June 5, 2011 4:59 p.m.

    I also find it immature. If he wanted to pay his bill in pennies, he jhad the opportunity to simply lay the bag down on the desk, as I'm sure he didn't lug them in in his open hands. He wanted to make a scene, and yes while pennies are a valid payment option, creating a scene by dumping them all over the place out of his displeasure at paying bills isn't an option. Would you fling your twenties around the store at Walmarts? Pay attention..grown up, Pay your bills, in pennies if you want, but don't be a baby about it. The fine was earned and consider it a life lesson.

  • El caballero Tremonton, UT
    June 5, 2011 4:42 p.m.

    I'm with DN Subscriber. Where's the crime? Sure, it was immature, but the guy paid his bill with pennies. It is a legal way to pay debts and if they cite him for that, what else can be cited?
    I think police are using that "Disorderly conduct" as a catch all for anything they don't like. Starting to look a little fishy.

  • Tom in Oregon City OREGON CITY, OR
    June 5, 2011 4:14 p.m.

    Oops. I was wrong. After posting that reference to the 1873 coinage law, I kept
    looking, and see that it was superseded in 1965.

    31 U.S.C. 5103: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve
    notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are
    legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or
    silver coins are not legal tender for debts."

    Treasury has instructive comments, here (you'll have to take the spaces out of the URL; the site won't allow it posted intact):

    http:// www.treasury.gov/ resource-center/ faqs/ Currency/ Pages/

  • Tom in Oregon City OREGON CITY, OR
    June 5, 2011 3:52 p.m.

    Actually, pennies are legal tender only up to $0.25 worth. Regional administrator of national banks told me that, in late 70's, when I complained about similar mistreatment over attempt to buy a half-gallon of ice cream late one evening from a local store. He even sent me a copy of the statute; I've lost that but here's the reference:

    "The minor coins of the United States are legal tender for any amount not exceeding 25 cents in any one payment. Act Feb. 12, 1873, Rev. Stat. ' 387, Comp. Stat. ' 6574, 6 Fed.Stat. Anno. 2d. ed. p. 298."

    I've seen cases where tax agencies, banks, and such have accepted wheelbarrows, bags, boxes of coins: they were being gracious, because they could have refused to accept and then applied the penalty for non-payment.

  • chrisalmond Olympia, WA
    June 5, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    It seems like this issue isn't so much about him paying with pennies, but about him doing it in a confrontational and disruptive manner. As mentioned in the article he was upset and threw 2,500 pennies onto the counter and demanded they count it. That is an aggressive act and I can understand why it would be disruptive to a business operation. Had he simply came in with a jar of pennies, explained why he was using such an unconventional option and was polite about it, I'm sure no cops would have been called.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    June 5, 2011 7:33 a.m.

    Wow! The police department is way off base on this one. Slow day in Vernal?

  • My2Cents Kearns, UT
    June 5, 2011 5:13 a.m.

    Then it must stand to reason that business harassing individuals for payment on a constant basis is also disorderly conduct, right? Why didn't the officers write up the hospital for disorderly conduct? If the hospital denies the pennies they also surrender any claimed debts.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 4, 2011 9:48 p.m.

    Tell me again what the crime was?

    He paid a bill with lawful money of the United States, in the full amount demanded.

    What next, arrest people at the grocery store for "disorderly conduct" if they don't have exact change for a $74.67 tab and hand the clerk a bunch of one, five and ten dollar bills?

    The guy may be a jerk and deliberately trying to annoy the vendor, but that is not a crime.

    The cops are way off base even responding to a call on a situation like this, let alone writing a citation. Don't they have any "real" crimes they could be working on instead of wasting time on this?

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 4, 2011 7:59 a.m.

    if pennies were not legal tender, the clinic would have a legitimate complaint. I guess there isn't enough crime to investigate so the police have to get involved in what at most is a civil matter

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    June 3, 2011 10:02 p.m.

    Waste of police time. If a penny is not legal tender then they should stop making them. The clinic, in my opinion, acted very childish. If you do not want this to happen specify that the payment must be in the largest denomination possible.

  • vernfitz Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 3, 2011 9:40 p.m.

    Funny because the pennies are legal tender. I swear I would pay the fine in pennies.

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 8:07 p.m.

    What a doofus.