Friday Minute: Friday Minute: Are we saved?

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  • als Atheist Provo, UT
    June 6, 2011 1:49 p.m.


    Good point. Not only is it silly, it posits a punishing god who will whip us into obedience. But the behavior of people who are punished for sins and rewarded for goodness is not genuine behavior. It is merely a response to the punishing god. In the same way, we don't give credit nor blame to the rats in the mazes who are manipulated by rewards and punishments to "solve" the maze. So it is that the followers of a punishing and rewarding god deserve no more credit or blame than a dumb animal deserves.

    In an important sense, the only path to authentic righteousness is through atheism.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    June 4, 2011 7:04 a.m.

    There is no such thing as being "saved". Different denominations aside, this entire sentiment is simply a fear based motive to keep us all in line with our different beliefs. Do what's right and you'll be saved, don't do as I say and you'll be forever damned. It's so silly.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    June 3, 2011 5:17 p.m.

    RE: sharrona

    To affirm free will does NOT compromise grace.

    Grace is given where we can not dofor ourselves.

    Through Adam and Eves' actions we a have suffered spritual death and physical death,

    Spiritual death was overcome by the atonement of Jesus Christ

    through repentance we can cleanse ourselves so we may be able to return to God's presence (no unclean thing can enter God's Kingdom),

    Physical death was overcome through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

    otherwise, we would be trapped in our current state and could not progress in perfection.

    These are the things we could NOT do for ourselves.

    Grace is not compromised by free will.

    We have choice our whether to accept Christ as our Saviour, to accept baptism, and to repent of our sins.

    That we will be resurrected does not effect free will.

  • HappyLady Grand Junction, CO
    June 3, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    Very well done. I have always had a hard time defending why I continue to try my best to do my best. The carnal man finds it easy to believe that we can do whatever we want and not feel guilt so long as we SAY we believe. I find this to be a walking contradiction for our actions testify of what we TRULY believe.

  • MrsDownhomeAmerica Los Angeles, CA
    June 3, 2011 3:10 p.m.

    While it is certainly true that no individual can earn salvation, but we are all saved by the grace of Christ, it contradicts everything Jesus taught to say that belief only saves one man, while he who sincerely does the works of righteousness is damned if he does not believe correctly. Both are necessary. Jesus said this again and again, and emphasisized that our faith must be sincere, our obedience from the heart. I like Brother Matthews parable about salvation.

    A man is travelling in the desert, and runs out of water. When he is nearly dead, he sees a well. Is this a mirage? He must excercise his faith to go to the well and drink the water, and he is saved. If he then goes on his way and never drinks from the well again, he will die. We must continually drink of the living water to remain "saved."

    Neither empty works nor cheap, temporary repentence will do. "By this you shall know if a man repenteth of his sins. Behold, he will confess them and forsake them."

  • sharrona layton, UT
    June 3, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    Are we saved? We are saved from the effects of spiritual death (separation from God) by meeting the conditions that the Lord established. Salvation from spiritual death is exaltation and is conditional. Wrong,

    For as in Adam(all inherit sin) all die(*apothnesko,599),so(believe)in Christ all will be made alive. (1 Corinthians 15:22). *die=the natural death of man,of eternal death, eternal misery in hell.

    Through faith, repentance and baptism, we are "born again".
    Jesus replied, Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again(*anothen,509)(John 3:3,7)*from above.

    To affirm free will( free agency) is to compromise grace Martin Luther comments on self-righteousness.
    Salvation is not universal but bases on the belief of each individual(Roman. 1:16, Heb 9:28, Eph 2:8-10, Titus 3:5)

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    June 3, 2011 10:44 a.m.

    I think this was an excellent explanation of my own beliefs. I don't understand why it is so controversial for some of other Christian faiths, but to each his own, I guess.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 8:27 a.m.

    Difficult topic to expound on in one minute. Better to leave it as yes Mormon's believe we are freely saved by the grace of God. Afterall, whether you are talking about exhaltation or salvation, every part of it is freely given from God. Christ's sacrifice, commandments, ordinances, they are all part of the Father's grace to his children to help them have joy.