BYU football: Joe DuPaix heading recruiting efforts

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  • cougarNV Las Vegas, NV
    June 6, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    I very much appreciate the comment of YGrad/YDad. I applaud several commentators also for their "Relevant" observations.
    - Fresno Girl , CougarfaninTX, and usually duck hunter (Though sometimes he can be too blue).

    Of course, how could I not appreciate the comedy of the likes of certain Ute fans who consistently make it fun to read the banter.

    Go Cougars!

  • Monsieur le prof Sandy, UT
    June 3, 2011 11:38 p.m.

    Joey Dupaix represents all that is good about the BYU program--talented, enthusiastic, positive, and a family man with great character. The same could be said about Brandon Doman, another product of Skyline High. Mendenhall's vision is to build men of character, who recognize that there is life beyond football. Winning games and conference titles and going to bowls are just icing on the cake. That's why the Cougars "over-achieve" most years.

    With Mendenhall running the defense and Doman the offense, this next season should be an exciting one! As for the Utes, real sports fans wish them well in their new conference. It will make our victory over them even more impressive. Go Cougs!

  • Katiebugg Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 1:40 p.m.

    Rivals from Ann Arbor, MI to Corona, CA reading and commenting about BYU on a daily basis:

    That, Boys, is relevance!

  • Ravenal Somewhere in, Utah
    June 3, 2011 1:21 p.m.

    MJB | 12:25 p.m. June 2, 2011
    Tooele, UT
    "I think we have some great teams in the state of Utah and wish we didn't have so many HATERS of these universities. Just root for your favorite teams and leave the hate off these posts. I hate reading it every day. "

  • FanofBYU American Fork, UT
    June 3, 2011 12:08 a.m.

    To Broom Hockey Champ,

    "I've got a reliable source that is telling me that Troy Hinds, Chase Hanse, and Brandon Fanaika are taking their talents to Provo. You read it here first."

    I wish I was as confident as you about Troy Hinds. I don't know enough about Chase nor Brandon, but I do know that Hinds is being very heavily recruited by Utah and Notre Dame so I think he is still in play.

    Hope you're right, but not holding my breath.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 2, 2011 11:38 p.m.

    WestCoast1 | 11:54 a.m. June 2, 2011
    Escondido, CA

    ". . . Utah's guaranteed opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl."

    I forgot, which PAC10 team was in the Rose Bowl last year? I bet you won't find a guarantee to play in the Rose Bowl anywhere in Utah's agreement with the PAC10.

    Hot off the press . . . ESPN just announced they will carry the Ole Miss vs BYU game on ESPN. How many games is this on ESPN? I can't wait.

    I really want to watch the Utes opening game also. Does anyone know where I can watch it? What? It's not televised. Can I at least listen to it on a radio station.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 2, 2011 10:47 p.m.

    Earth to crowntown - YOU are irrelevant until you own an NC trophy.

    Okay, I don't buy it either, but to be told that BYU is irrelevant, with SO much evidence to the contrary? And I am the one who is arrogant and holier-than-thou???

    Thought so. Over the K-Whit and Bronco era, the two teams are pretty evenly matched by every measure. Your highs have been higher, your lows have been lower, you can slice it how you want, but it keeps coming up pretty much like last year.

    No, when MWC teams were taking PAC 10 teams to the woodshed, somehow it does seem stupid to say that the Utes will suddenly become the new PAC matched pair with Wazzu. But then, any future prediction for either team is worth what you pay for it.

    You have two years of being great. We have a long history of being consistently good, sometimes very good. No matter how you gnash your teeth and try to undermine it, we have an NC. No matter how it grates the collective Y nerve, you have 2 BCS victories.

    And we both have good coaches leading us into uncharted territory.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    June 2, 2011 9:18 p.m.

    I choose freedom

    "Sure they have two BCS wins under their belt and we have ZIPP that's the past". Earth to BYU FAN you are irrelevant until you get to BCS bowl. All you have to show for all your overhype and smack over the last 10 years is a couple of Vegas bowls and New Mexico bowl. ENJOY!!

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    June 2, 2011 9:13 p.m.

    Your naming guys who played 20 plus years ago. College football has changed and you won't see top non lds recuits going to a lds school ever.

  • FanofBYU American Fork, UT
    June 2, 2011 7:48 p.m.

    To WestCoast1

    "And as far as your hoping and praying that the Utes become a "doormat" as you say, at least people will be noticing them, which is more than one can say about BYU."

    Hahaha, That's rich. Maybe that should be Kyle's recruiting message. "Hey, we might be the doormats, but at least we'll be noticed."

    By whom will U be noticed? With zero TV exposure who is going to notice U? If you are the doormat (I personally don't believe you will), is that how you want to be noticed?

    BYU is already locked in with at least 4 games which will be broadcast nationally on ESPN. They will be able to broadcast all the rest of their games nationally as well. Depending on how the season is going, ESPN has the ability to pick up additional games as well. So tell us all again, who will be noticed?

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    June 2, 2011 7:13 p.m.


    "And as far as your hoping and praying that the Utes become a "doormat" as you say, at least people will be noticing them, which is more than one can say about BYU."

    So BYU's first game is on ESPN. How about Utah's first game? We know Utah's first conference game will be on Versus...that will sure get people noticing...oh wait...

    BYU + ESPN = winning combination!

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    June 2, 2011 6:26 p.m.


    "No elite non Mormon will every go to BYU."

    Such as Jim McMahon, Ty Detmer, or Steve Sarkisian?

  • Utiesrsocute Murray, UT
    June 2, 2011 6:10 p.m.

    Hey Hedgie, I realize you get a kick out of getting responses, but doesn't it get old getting taken to the woodshed night after night? I mean give it about 20 more seconds before responding next time.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    June 2, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    Hedgie... don't you ever get tired of sticking your foot in your mouth...Utah's potential is limited...because it's Utah. What you will be getting are scraps...but you're accustomed to that...getting what's left over. and then going and sitting quietly in the corner. This time instead of BCS scraps it will be after what Cal., Stanford, the Washington, Arizona and Oregon schools pick though and don't take. If you're lucky you might run neck and neck with Colorado...but don't give us this unlimited're way over extended on creditbility as it is. But I do have to admit.. the last two day's I have seen improvement in utey fanaticism about the BCS. Some of you have actually come to the realization that you got maybe there is hope on that front at least.

  • I Choose Freedom Atlanta, GA
    June 2, 2011 3:09 p.m.

    For the very first time I am going to mostly agree with Hedgie. BYU almost certainly will never compete for truly elite non-Mormon talent, at least not on a regular basis. While they may get a bunch of good ones, especially going forward, the truly elite players that are not LDS will typically choose to play elsewhere. (Notice I said "typically" because there may be one here and there that wants the kind of atmosphere that BYU offers.) And I believe that the Utes will also struggle to get elite players. For those elite recruits that live outside of Utah, why would they choose Utah if they can also go to Texas, Oklahoma, Stanford, Florida or Alabama?

    BYU is unique and is recognized for this across the country. Because of this they stand out. There is nothing that makes Utah stand out from any other state school. Sure, they went to two BCS bowls. But that is in the past. Who really believes they will do as well going forward now that they are in the PAC 10.2? Only Utes. And probably not many of them believe it.

  • Broom Hockey Champ Alpine, UT
    June 2, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    I've got a reliable source that is telling me that Troy Hinds, Chase Hanse, and Brandon Fanaika are taking their talents to Provo. You read it here first.

  • GACougar Atlanta, GA
    June 2, 2011 2:22 p.m.

    Hedgie: "Unlimited possibilities" at the U?

    The same can be said for your basketball team. How's that one working out for you?

  • Black Shirts South Jordan, UT
    June 2, 2011 2:22 p.m.

    Why are Ute's fans talking smack? Did they forget how BSU punched them in the face and the Ute's quit like little.. The Ute's are falling faster than Ohio St. No one cares about the Ute's outside little SC valley, nobody.

    Why is BYU out recruiting the Ute's if they have the "NON-LDS" problem? Also, BYU recruits a lot of kids before their senior year, which means they are not rated yet. Have you noticed that BYU win 75% of the head-to-head recruiting battles with the Utes?

    The Ute'y beat BYU by 1 point at home with a bunch of backups (injuries) and freshman. On Sept 17 the Ute's will lose by 20 to BYU and end the season only 5-7.

    Did I mention how bad BSU kick your butt and made you quit and cry like..........
    How about that Ute Basketball team!! They are in the PAC12, WOW!

  • -PSUYB- Scranton, Pennsylvania
    June 2, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    BYU is hands down the most unique Division 1 program in the country. It is truly a one of a kind, with the honor code and the standards that are expected.
    This certainly is a hinderance in recruiting many blue-chip 5 star athletes. But that is not to say that there are not athletes out there that want to uphold the same standards and honor code. Considering the recruiting limitations, BYU is doing pretty good with what they pull in.

    There is very little for recruits not to like in BYU at this point. Top of the line facilities, excellent football tradition, beautiful campus, every game on nat'l TV, games against elite opponents all over the country.

    Oh, and another BYU game is set to be broadcasted nationally on ESPN.

    BYU @ Ole Miss -09/3 3:45pm ESPN

    That gives BYU a running total of SIX games on ESPN next season. WIth likely one more coming against OSU and maybe another @Hawaii.

    It just keeps getting better.

  • In Stitches Provo, Utah
    June 2, 2011 1:31 p.m.


    Sorry to be the one to break the news to you, but Utah has absolutely no guarantee of EVER playing in the Rose Bowl nor for a National Championship. No team does!

  • MJB Tooele, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:25 p.m.

    Everyone comes on these stories and posts the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. I graduated from USU, have always been a BYU fan and love being able to root for the Utes. I think we have some great teams in the state of Utah and wish we didn't have so many HATERS of these universities. Just root for your favorite teams and leave the hate off these posts. I hate reading it every day.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    June 2, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    "And as far as your hoping and praying that the Utes become a "doormat" as you say, at least people will be noticing them, which is more than one can say about BYU."

    If people didn't notice BYU, why did ESPN bother to make an 8-year deal with them? And why are all these big name programs lining up to play BYU?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:03 p.m.


    So if utah now has a "guaranteed" opportunity to play for a national title simply by being in the pac10 how come USC, you've heard of them you know USC, was denied that opportunity a few years ago despite a #2 ranking? If USC can be denied then what in the world makes you think utah has some sort of guaranty?

  • WestCoast1 Escondido, CA
    June 2, 2011 11:54 a.m.


    I've got to hand it to BYU fans like you who can take BYU's uncertain football future with no chance for a real bowl game to play for, and make it sound better than Utah's guaranteed opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl, or even for the BCS national title.

    And as far as your hoping and praying that the Utes become a "doormat" as you say, at least people will be noticing them, which is more than one can say about BYU.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    June 2, 2011 11:31 a.m.

    Well now that there's a lexus dealership in ut county, we could just be like the other BCS schools and give cars to star athletes. Talk about a great recruiting tool. I don't think tatoo parlors in ut county are that popular at the moment.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 2, 2011 11:21 a.m.

    Papa Smurf UTE | 10:05 a.m. June 2, 2011
    Herriman, UT
    CougfanTX, Josh Quezada and Cody Hoffman are not elite talent.

    Oh, I get it. You rely on the rating agencies to determine if players are elite talent by how many stars they get. The rating agencies get as many wrong as they get right.

    I rely on the players performance on the field. If you missed Quezada and Hoffman last year, I think you'll agree with me by the end of this season that both are elite talent. To call them practice players shows that you have no idea how talented they are.

  • fan in orem Orem, Utah
    June 2, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    To Papa Smurf Ute:

    We can't afford the players that Florida, Ohio St, USC, OU, Texas etc. recruit, so that really doesn't apply to the discussion. Just keep in mind that Hoffman and Quezada were true freshmen last year. You will see that they are 'elite' before their careers are over.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    June 2, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    No elite non-Mormon will ever go to BYU?

    Perhaps not, but BYU is a ridiculously well coached team. Look at the teams fielded under Coach Mendenhalls tenure. Star players like Brian Kehl, Johnny Harline, Curtis Brown, Max Hall, Cameron Jensen, and Dennis Pitta were average at best "talent" by the leagues definition.

    Now BYU is getting more "talented" players like Cody Hoffman and Joshua Quezada who, I agree, are not "elite" players, but are still more "talented" than what BYU has fielded in year's past. The other difference is that the roster is becoming full of these players. It is not just the starters. So Mendenhall has a better coaching staff, better talent, and therefore a better chance to contend for championships. There may not be tons of athletes on BYUs squad, but this is hands down the most talent that Mendenhall, and perhaps BYU, has ever had on their team top to bottom. BYU is well coached enough that they don't need elite talent to have a chance to beat elite teams. Look at what they've done without it! Let alone what they can do with more. They aren't even close to their ceiling.

  • In Stitches Provo, Utah
    June 2, 2011 10:21 a.m.


    "No elite non Mormon will every go to bYu."

    Ty Detmer, Jim McMahan ....Do you EVER get tired of always being completely wrong?! I guess not.

  • SeattleUhasabballteam? Seattle, WA
    June 2, 2011 10:10 a.m.

    hedgehog | 8:33 a.m. June 2, 2011
    Ann Arbor, MI

    No elite non Mormon will every go to bYu.

    Jim McMahon- Pro Bowl QB
    Ty Detmer (not LDS when he came to BYU) - Heisman Trophy

  • Papa Smurf UTE Herriman, UT
    June 2, 2011 10:05 a.m.


    Josh Quezada and Cody Hoffman are not elite talent. Had Heaps not been mormon, and came to Byu, then that would be considered Elite Talent. Those are middle of the pack guys, that most top 25 programs have a supply of, sitting on the bench, behind that Elite Talent. Dont get me wrong, they are both good players, but your definition of Elite Talent is different than everyone elses outside the Byu family, fans, and program. Florida, Odio St, USC, OU, Texas etc. would not consider either of those 2 players as elite talent. They may try to recruit them, even the big name schools need backups and pratice squad players. Before you say it, I know, I know, the Utes dont get these types of players either. At least not yet anyway.

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    June 2, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    Glad DuPaix is aboard. Need to get the best recruits possible at the Y. There have been some great non-LDS players that have come to the Y. I was attending school there when Cosic was playing. Later we got McMahon. We will occasionally land a few elite players but realistically with the state of college recruiting (under the table stuff we shouldn't do) we will have to build our teams from 2 and 3 star recruits. Great coaching and two-year missions should be enough to keep us in the top 25 in both FB and BB all the way to the end of the world.

  • fan in orem Orem, Utah
    June 2, 2011 9:19 a.m.

    "Utah on the other hand has unlimited possibilities."

    And yet they do so little with it.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 2, 2011 9:16 a.m.


    Maybe your definition of elite is different than mine, but two quick names that come to mind as elite non-Mormon athletes at BYU are Josh Quezada and Cody Hoffman. There are many others that fall into this category as well, but those two had such amazing Freshman campaigns I didn't figure you could argue with those. Don't worry, you'll see a lot of them on Sept. 17.

    BTW, Ty Detmer was not a Mormon when he came to BYU either.

  • Sandy Sport Fan 2.0 Sandy, UT
    June 2, 2011 9:15 a.m.

    Glad to have DuPaix recruiting.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 2, 2011 9:13 a.m.

    Idaho kewg,

    My point is that nothing changes... recuiting opportunities are exactly the same at the Y and will never improve (or decline).

    It is what it is.

    Utah on the other hand has unlimited possibilities.

  • Idaho Coug Meridian, Idaho
    June 2, 2011 8:56 a.m.

    Hedgehog - I think there are several elite Mormon athletes at your U actually. Maybe you don't rate the talent at the U as high as I do?

    But you are correct in that the talent pool for BYU is very specific and narrow. Making BYU's success even that more impressive.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 2, 2011 8:33 a.m.

    "Enthusiastic, skilled coaches like Bronco, Doman Cahoon, and DuPaix will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU."


    You do realize that a cardboard box could be in charge of recruiting and the "talent" universe will always be the same. The number of elite Mormon athletes going to "other" Universities can be counted on one hand.... and trust me, they know about bYu and bYu knows aout them.

    No elite non Mormon will every go to bYu.

  • Idaho Coug Meridian, Idaho
    June 2, 2011 8:26 a.m.

    I have always thought BYU is the most difficult place to create and sustain a successful program in the nation. As this article highlights, the talent pool is truly limited - kids who can play at this level and who can and want to live the standards. Even many who are in that limited pool choose Utah or other BCS programs restricting the pool further. Then a good percentage will leave for two years impacting their athleticism and making juggling the roster a full-time job for someone.

    My point is, I have always thought that as a regular top-25 program BYU greatly overachieves. No other coach in the country would want the built-in challenges that exist at BYU. And yet they are highly successful season after season.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 1, 2011 10:09 p.m.

    Independence versus MWC will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU.

    National TV coverage will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU. (Just ask Boise State what ESPN has done for their program the past 5+ years.)

    Knowing the players will play teams like Texas, Notre Dame, West Virginia, Ole Miss, Hawaii, Utah, Oregon State, Georgia Tech, Boise State (and the list goes on and on) will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU.

    Enthusiastic, skilled coaches like Bronco, Doman Cahoon, and DuPaix will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU.

    The future is very bright! I'm looking forward to seeing the list of commits in the coming weeks. Go Cougs!

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    June 1, 2011 9:28 p.m.

    How to out-recruit Utah 101:

    Coach: "Son, your first game at BYU will be on ESPN. On the other hand, your first game at Utah will be on Versus."

    Player: "I choose BYU and ESPN."

    BYU will win the recruiting war. Hands down.

    ESPN/BYU TV > Doormat of PAC 12 (Utah)

    Go Cougars!