this story will be included in my next priesthood lesson on honesty, or
AWESOME!What a good example of just because something is
"legal" does NOT mean it's "moral".I know a
certain group of individuals who seem to be often getting confused on this...Anyway, I commend you for returning the money and belongings!
I was reading it in the local paper back here yesterday. Very wonderful of the
family to return the money to the Bangeters. The story was almost 3/4 of the
page. Had lots of pictures. There was even a 3 second bire on abc news about it.
It is so refreshing to see such honesty in this world.
Honesty principle in action. So awesome!
we are surrounded by great people, thanks for the story.
I had hoped to see at the end of this great story, a note saying that to reward
Mr. Ferrin for his honesty, the Bangerter family returned half of the found
money to him. That would have been a perfect ending in my eyes.
Someone's mansion in heaven just got bigger...remarkable example of guiding
principles in action. The amazing thing is that, by law the money was his!
Legal isn't always ethical. Thanks for the inspiring story on a raining day!
Good for him!
I'd say it's more a lesson in honesty for the rest of the world. The family
seems to have the lesson down just fine.
I remember sitting around the lunch table in high school (not all THAT long ago)
discussing a similar topic with my friends: "If you found a wallet with
money in it, what would you do?" My friends all said, "I'd keep some
of it. After all, I deserve a 'reward' for even telling the owner about it.
Then I'd call them and tell them to come get their wallet." The only two
people at the table who said they would return the wallet with its contents
intact and not expect, ask for, or accept a "reward" were me and my
sister. We weren't brought up that way. It isn't my money, and honesty is
rewarded in its own way, not with a payment in cash. I'd sure love a few extra
bucks, but that isn't the way to go about it.
To Linda A: The Government does NOT take 80 % of anyone's money. Top rate is now
much lower than 40 % thanks to George W. Bush tax cut for the rich.BTW, wouldn't it be heart warming if the Bangerters gave the honest man AT
LEAST $ 5,000 for not keeping the money?
@utesovertide/underallPAC12opponents: We were discussing honesty in the face of
temptation -- not investing. See if you can stay on topic. :)
After reading this story and all the comments I have come to a different
conclusion than most of you.This story is not about honesty, or
covetousness, or how to invest money. It is about loving your neighbor as your
self. This was an act of love.
We have lived near the Bangerters for nearly 20 years. They were wonderful
people who were much loved in the community. No one who knew them is surprised
that this money was hidden there. Ferrin family, you are amazing. Can't
wait to get to know you!!!
The best part of this story is the teaching opportunity it provided to these
young boys...our future leaders.
Thanks for the story. Made me think, what would I have done? I honestly don't
know if I would have given it back. Thanks for the inspiration to be better.
Linda A: can you explain your comment "The government thanks you. They
will be shortly to collect their 80%!!"Unless this estate
totalled more than one million dollars, there are no estate taxes. It's an
inheritance that passes through the estate into the survivors.
To Oh My Heck!My parents came through the Depression and DO trust
banks. They saved, like Mr Bangerter and took money to the bank after
receiving every paycheck. Now, they have $1.2 million dollars in
various insured accounts (spread among high-rated banks). They are 91 and 92
years old.They were more afraid of people breaking into their home,
than of the banks.THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE SAD ABOUT STORIES LIKE
THIS:Because they're deemed newsworthy, it gives the impression that
honesty is rare.In my experience, honesty is the rule.
What a fantastic lesson in honesty for all of us. I would hope most people
would return it.
What a legacy of hard-saved cash for Mr. Bangerter to leave for his family.And what a legacy of character for the Ferrin's to give to their sons.
Good for them!
when the financial system cracks and suddenly you find out banks are closed, you
can't cash your checks, cash bonds, 401K, cds, etc., and you can only buy
groceries with the cash you have at hand, what are you going to do? People from
the depression era learned the lesson the hard way. Church recommends to have
not only food storage but some cash aside for this kind of emergency.You would be amazed how church leaders gave that advise very strongly in some
3rd world countries and years or months later, it happened.
@oldcougarThere is a huge difference between buying bonds, gold, or
currencies and buying a lottery ticket, but thanks for playing.
God tests us in so many ways, doesn't he?
Hope this makes the national news. A great lesson in honesty and the values
this entire country use to adhere too.
The government thanks you. They will be shortly to collect their 80%!!
This family has more than honesty going for them.The desire to
stumble into a fortune is a part of many peoples fantasies. However there is a
problem with that way of thinking. Getting something for nothing is not a
healthy way of thinking. It is associated with greed and covetousness.When we reap what we sow, when the gains we get are from hard work, we
increase our self worth. When we get something for nothing it takes a little bit
of our dignity away.This family was not only honest, they did not
let greed rule their decisions, or even let the money tempt them. I say good for
them! They lost nothing but gained a lot from the experience.
now if all those grave robbers down south would have just thought the same.
There would be a few more good men walking around...like this good man said
" you can't let yourself think that way! Teach your children well!!
I knew Arnold Bangerter. He was a fine man and dedicated to conservation.
Maintained a "tight ship" at home. This story doesn't surprise me,
although I would've expected him to spill the beans to his kids.
Wow... What an answer to a question. I knew Arnold Bangerter very well. I worked
with him for many years with the DWR. He was a great fisheries biologist who has
a passion for his work. He was a nuts and bolts work on the ground sort of guy.
His labors, experience and decisions were all make from his hands on work with
the resource. No funny compute models... No conjecture. And besides being a hard
worker, he was a friend. I was just thinking about him the other day and
wondering what he was doing with himself... Now I know. R.I.P. Arnold. I'll be
browsing your memories in my photo albums.
To "Reasonable Person" and others who have commented about how the
money should have been in the bank. People who lived during the Depression did
not trust banks. Heck, sometimes I don't trust them, either, because the
interest on money saved is practically nil. Granted, if the house had caught on
fire, the money would have been lost. But I can understand why someone would
want to have their money "in hand", so to speak, and available when
needed. My parents, particularly mother, put away coins in a metal box. Some of
them were silver dollars, others not silver, but "interesting" to her,
such as the Kennedy half dollars. After mom passed away, I received one of her
jewelry boxes with mostly odds and ends of jewelry in it that were important to
her, but under the top shelf was a small compartment with a few silver dollars
and other coins in it. I will keep them there, because they remind me of mom.Great lesson learned by the children of this family. So glad to know
there are still honest people in the world!
My Dad had a bag of silver dollars that he had collected over the years hidden
in our attic next to the furnace. We all knew they were there. When he passed
and we were moving out we looked all over the attic for them. Then my mother
remembered she had called a repairman to come and look at the furnace shortly
after Dad had passed. She even commented to the man she had just lost her
husband. Hope he enjoyed the money.....
All I can say about this story is that this family is a class act to follow!
Some people may not have ever revealed this kind of find. Good story for all to
The dad told his boys:"he was saving it for his family not for ours".
My husband's employee found bags of old coins while working at an
old man's home. My husband was in the same kitchen working so he took them to
the old man and have him count the items. He wasn't one bit worried about any
missing. His greedy son, who was in our ward, came to my home and told my
husband that he feared his dad's life now that we knew about the coins and if
"anything happened to the coins he would suspect my husband's
It's nice to hear a positive story of someone doing the right thing. Thanks!
I noticed in the news this is more common than people think from those of the
Great Depression era. People are constantly finding cash and valuables stuffed
away. Note he had a handwritten note that said "I was born on a lousy
day" attached to it. He knew the value of being prepared and did try,
without the knowledge of anyone in his family. Kudos to him. As for those
detractors saying he should have invested it...that is not as safe as you think.
How much money gets lost in investments whenever we hit a recession? For
Treasury Bills, what is the yield these days? In times of bank runs and mass
economic panic, your investments cannot be liquidated fast enough.
@utesovertide and unreaonable person: Actually, he really should have gone up to
Idaho and bought lotto tickets. We could be talking about not hundreds of
thousands, but millions...maybe even billions.Shhheeeeshhh! Great story. Thanks!
The world is a better place because we have people like the Ferrin's. Thanks!
That was the perfect story for today's rain. That young man was brought up right
and chose to continue to honor that upbringing. Wow, if there were only millions
of others just like him. Wouldn't this world be lovely to live in and the whole
countenance of our nation would be one of more peace, love and charity. Gosh,
that's a nice thought - think I will revel in that for now.
Thanks for being honest! It will come back to you in some other way! I would
hope the family would reward you for your honesty? Maybe a nice trip somewhere?
@Reasonable Person"It's a sad story, though.
"Preparedness" meant, in this case, that the money stuffed into the
trash bags was worth a lot less than when it accumulated. Imagine what it would
be worth, if it had been banked." Or if he wanted to maintain
control or liquidity, he could have bought i-bonds. i-bonds are nearly as
liquid as cash, but gain interest and protect against inflation. If it had been
invested in a bond vehicle like an i-bond, and the interest rate was around 3%
(and we know it was higher during the 70's), the money would only take about 24
years to double. We could be talking about hundreds of thousands here in that
case.But good for him returning the money. That is awesome!
The Ferrin Family = Win
Great example for all of us! I think that since the money was
"legally" the new homeowners money the Bangerter family should
consider giving them a finders fee or share it with them. That seems fair and
the right thing to do.
Should be a simple choice everytime.
Great people! Their sons will reap the benefit of this lesson their whole lives.
I love it when someone does the right thing. No one was watching and it didn't
even seem to cross his mind to keep the money. Great example.
way to go Josh...more of those examples please. Congrats to the parents of Josh
and his wife..."ya did Good".
Great story....Great example, one that I would like to think my kids would
follow. Thank you, the world is a better place for it.
at least he was honest about finding this money....reading a story about a man
who won 2 million dollars and still wants to collect his food stamps after his
winnings made me sick...i'm happy to read a story about a family or person
returning something back to the owner. with a story like that someone will
offer something to that family by fixing up there new home.
Keetch: thank you for YOUR honesty.I hear what you're saying.The stories about people who give money back, make it seem like they are
rare cases. They are not. The difference is this: we don't go
running to a newspaper so we can get our little "ain't I better than
everyone else" pat on the back.In this case, I'll forgive the
finder, because he DOES work for the newspaper.It's a sad story,
though. "Preparedness" meant, in this case, that the money stuffed
into the trash bags was worth a lot less than when it accumulated. Imagine what
it would be worth, if it had been banked.That lesson needs to be
Wow - what a great story,and a great family. Most other people would have kept
the money. It's people like these who restore my faith in my fellow man! I
believe that good things will happen for these people because they are so
honest. The kids who wanted to keep a little bit, well, they're just acting
like kids do. The parents set a great example for them.
Dang. I am impressed by these guys, but... Dang.
@Keetch:Yes. That is exactly why we all should return found
money---so we can have news stories written about us and gripe if none are.
There is good in this world. I love that the Dnews reports this! Thanks for an
uplifting story to brighten this rainy day.
Wonderful story! This just goes to prove a thousandfold the old saying that
honesty is the best policy.
Great story! It's nice to hear stories like this.
That is wonderful. So happy you were honest. It is a story that can go on for
Too bad the roofers of a friends house didn't have that honesty when they took
his box of silver dollars hidden in the attic.
This happened to me and my friends once.. we found around 15,000 dollars in and
house and also gave it back. where is my news story?
Happens more than you think (people from that era stashing cash). My Grandma
stashed cash everywhere in her house. In books, in old bags and purses that she
never used. But we didn't even think to look into an old washing machine drum
before we sold it.The man we sold it to called in about 30 minutes.
He had found an old leather bag of.... I kid you not.... gold and silver
coins.He did not even think about keeping them.This is
one of the reasons why I always argue in that old arguement that people are
basically good. I want to believe it. I sometimes see it, and I am glad this
story gives me more ammo to say it.
I think that the treasure is seeing how he wrapped the money and honestly, that
was his being prepared. He had money and ammo, bet he also had food storage,
but he had that in a place where someone could not come in and take it. So I
think he was teaching a lesson of not saving money, but having it there for an
emergency. I hope that his family will be wise with what they do with that
money, I think that their dad would want them to be. Dad was no dummy.
The reward will come later when the kids remember and teach their own children
Great story. I wonder why someone would stash so much money and not tell
anyone. I wonder why someone would be so careless to stash cash and not put it
in a bank.
Best story ever. How wonderful. Honesty matters. What a great family. And a
father who is a very good example to his boys.
Great story! Wish I could find that in my attic. :)
What a wonderful lesson in honesty, not only for the children of this family
making the discovery, but for us all. I wonder how many of us would do the same
thing? (All of us, one would hope.)