Red roundup: National media weighs in on U.'s two draft picks

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  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    May 4, 2011 7:15 a.m.

    Thanks Duck, same to you and the cougs.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 3, 2011 6:43 p.m.

    Well pocy for your sake, and a few of the other good Utah fans around here, I hope they do well. I'm sceptical but if they do I'll be happy for you guys.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    May 3, 2011 6:01 p.m.


    I appreciate the insight. I think the comparison to '07 is probably a pretty good one. I think Wynn's health is certainly a question mark, but I think talent wise, he is closer to the '09 Wynn vs the '10 Wynn, and the offense will be a much better fit for him, despite the learning curve. Not to say that a new offense isn't going to have hiccups, but I expect the offense to be more consistent than last year given the new o-line coach and commitment to the run.

    I expect Utah to represent well in their first year. I've said all along I thought 8-4 was a realistic record, though 7-5, 9-3 are possible. I don't see them sliding down the abyss, or struggling near the mendoza line, but, that could happen depending on health.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 3, 2011 5:46 p.m.

    Now utah on the otherhand was a mostly veteran team last year. They finished very poorly, that cannot be denied, they lost alot of good players including several underclassmen that would have been better this year than they were last year but are now gone.

    Their qb is a huge question mark for multiple reasons. One is the injury and missing spring bal, but there are legitimate questions as to whether he is really very good and certainly whether he is very tough. The backups did not look good in the spring.

    None of the rb's has ever had a D1 carry.

    The oline lost multiple starters.

    The coaching staff was revamped and the offense was completely scrapped for a new one. That takes time.

    They are entering a much tougher conference. There will not be many "down" weeks.

    In short utah has many more question marks than BYU does and they were definately trending down to finish the year.

    In all seriousness I think they are in for a tough season and I think Whittingham and chow realize it as many of their cryptic quotes have seemed to indicate.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 3, 2011 5:38 p.m.

    I'll answer it for you pocy. BYU was extremely young last year with most of the starters, and guys that got playing time, being freshman and sophomores. Certainly the competition towards the end of the year was easier and that helped but the theory is that ending up on a high note is better than ending on a low one. It helps breed confidence.

    I could easily compare BYU's last season to utah's '07 season which I am sure you remember to be not very good. I think they won 1 more game than BYU did last year. Utah was young and needed to learn to win that year. After a rough 1st half of the season by the end of the year they were playing much better and won their bowl game. We all know '08 was then a stellar year for them.

    Now before the wedgies of the world claim I am predicting BYU will go undefeated next year I am not, those seasons are rare, but the similarities are certainly there.

    BYU was young, they improved, and now they should be better. That is why fans are optimistic.

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 3, 2011 11:13 a.m.

    "Pokey...I don't remember rattling our chain"

    BYU troll you rattle our chains with endless put downs on Utah articles. Why would you not expect a response?

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    May 3, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    Holy Cow, Stock.

    You misinterpreted my post. I was asking a serious question. I don't understand why BYU's future is so bright and Utah's is so bleak. Both teams beat up on terrible competition. But it seems that because BYU did it at the end of the season, and Utah struggled that Utah is totally down, and BYU is totally up, despite the fact that Utah beat BYU and their QB looks to be 100% .

    I'm truly trying to have a mature conversation here, but if you decide to take it the lowest common denominator, that's your choice. Also, I didn't know I had to be invited to post on here. Guess I have to learn the ropes.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    May 3, 2011 9:28 a.m.

    Pokey...I don't remember rattling our chain ...but since you poked your nose in uninvited anyway....just remember a possible win at Montana State is about as significant as a Junior leaving early for the draft and being a fifth round pick followed. But getting crushed by USC a week later and then having everyone else follow on using Utah as a doormat that's what I'd call tenuous. And by the way there was actually an ad in the L. A. Times taking orders for other PAC team fans to order customized Univ of Utah and Colorado doormats to place outside their doors. One saying "Welcome" and the other other one... probably for the back door... saying "Better luck next time"

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    May 3, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    Apparently the Pac-12 deal will be announced tomorrow. 225 mill/year for 12 years, 18.75 mil/year/school. Not bad.

    Fox will be the primary partner with ESPN as the secondary. Apparently no Pac-12 network as of now.

    Not bad.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    May 3, 2011 8:19 a.m.


    I understand BYU finished strong, but truly, how much confidence does that give BYU fans? (I ask this in all seriousness) BYU beat up on bad teams. Utah was the only team BYU played in it's last 6 games with a winning record, and BYU lost that game. I'm not saying BYU didn't improve and Heaps isn't a good QB, and BYU doesn't have potential, but basing the future on the last half of last season seems a little tenuous to me.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    May 3, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    pebbles....Freshmen normally don't enter the draft...they usually have to put one year in of significant playing time... and having done so at a program that started weak and finished strong the natural tendency is to stick around...especially when things are really looking great futuristicly. Unlike a program that started really strong but then imploded and fell apart. Why bother staying when the situation for the next year looks even more unrealistic or dismal.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    May 2, 2011 8:58 p.m.

    Nice article on Caleb. Can't ask for a better situation than GB.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    May 2, 2011 8:46 p.m.

    "Cornerback Brandon Burton and guard Caleb Schlauderaff were the only Utah Utes taken in last week's National Football League Draft." Well I guess if the prior year you had 6 players drafted and the next "only" 2 were drafted it is somewhat of a letdown. But then you consider that only one other team in Utah had a player drafted (Congrats Curtis Marsh and USU). Pray tell what were the draft results for the DNews favorite mid major independent team in Provo?
    Congrats to Burton and Schlauderaff, I am sure a couple other Utes will be picked via free agency as well.
    Go Utes, Go Aggies.
    Viva La PAC-12