hedgehog | 2:23 p.m. April 28, 2011 What does perfection mean? Must
have everything to do with morality and not performance on the court.let's review1. Did not win out right the MWC2 Did not win the MWC
tournement3 Did not win the sweet 16 game4 Did not win the elite 8
game5. Did not win the final four6. Did not win the NCAA
championship let's review1. Did win 30+ games for the 2nd
consecutive year2. Did finish the season ranked in the top 25 for the 2nd
consecutive year3. Did win 20+ games for the 6th consecutive year4.
Did win or share in the conference championship 4 out the last 5 years5.
Did get an NCAA Tournament invitation for the 5th consecutive year6. Did
have the national player of the year7. Did beat Utah for the 9th
consecutive time8. Did have the 6th highest average attendance in the
country9. Did have the biggest increase in attendance in the country10.Did have the biggest national following in the countryFew
programs in the country can compare - certainly not your Utes.
@ TrueBluetrue, I will agree that BYU fans do support the teams...
but only when BYU wins. My point was/is that the MC is on average half empty.
Numbers are numbers. Ask my buddy Jared Jensen how he liked playing in front a
2/3 empty arena. Now, people would think that if you dont have a
winning product people wont go. But if you look at the Top teams in the Top 25
in college basketball attendance, these teams have people show up no matter
what. Like SEC football, the Packers, the Trailblazers, etc. So
the comment posted that BYU has "the greatest fan base ever" is way
off. That was my point. There are the diehard BYU fans that I love and
respect. But most BYU fans are known as being bandwagon fans, and wont part
with the mighty dollar unless they can feel like they are a "part" of
something. Whereas in other parts of the country, people buy season tickets on
credit cards and slowly pay it off if they cant afford it because they are going
no matter what. Are you a season ticket holder in both football and
@UC BallerAnd yet, ironically, that average attendance at BYU bball
games over the last 12 years (which, according to my brief calculations and
figuring around 9000 for the '05-'07 years, is a little under 12,000 a year) is
still a higher number than the number of seats in more than half of the
basketball stadiums around the country...and those stadiums are having trouble
putting butts in the seats. So in a country where football is king,
I'd say BYU fans do a pretty dang good job representing their basketball team.
To Hedgy... For a school to live vicariously through another
team...that team has to be dead... So for BYU to live
vicarioulsy through the U., then the U must be dead...finally we both agree...
umm at True Blue 12:39I wreak of sarcasm because what I stated are
facts. Truth hurts. I bet you were wearing a Duke shirt then switched to BYU
once they started winning (but not advancing in the Tourney). I like BYU but
guys like you are hilarious. Try these facts on for size.Facts:BYU Attendance (BYU ticket office even stated these are tickets sold,
and the average attendance was 5-8% off of that as some season ticket holders
didnt attend. So this is # is the highest they would be):2000--8,300 (not
in Top 25 in the Country) 2001--6800 (same) 2002-- 8119 (same)
2003-14,4682004-15,3002005--under 10,000 again2006--under 10,000 again2007-under 10,000 again2008--13,5182009--13,3832010---14,0292011--18,714NCAA.orgFacts are, maybe 3/4 empy was a little off. So seeing how the MCenter holds
22,700...Average is well below half full. Dave Rose era or not. Bandwagon
fans-like you True Blue, need to leave your spurs and horse whip at home.
"Jimmer made the nation fall in love with BYU again"I
smell a T-shirt!
hedge- Jimmer made the nation fall in love with BYU again. He did more for
college sports around here than anyone in recent memory. He single handedly
packed the marriot center. It was awesome. To bad you didn't see it. Perhaps
if you had been there you would understand and be a fan of Jimmer and BYU!
Honor Code | 4:10 a.m. April 28, 2011MWC teams care about BYU
although the reverse is not true! They diss BYU, pout and threaten (very
childish) not to schedule games until they look at the draw BYU has. The MWC
will sink even lower without TCU, BYU and Utah. Bye, bye, er...ah, what was your
name? Oh yes, MWC.
Get lost U trolls! Didn't you see Jimmer complete our QUest for Perfection?! What does perfection mean? Must have everything to do with morality and
not performance on the court.let's review1. Did not win out
right the MWC 2 Did not win the MWC tournement3 Did not win the
sweet 16 game4 Did not win the elite 8 game5. Did not win the final
four6. Did not win the NCAA championship
UC Baller"when I would take my 3 year old to a game and it
would be 3/4 empty not too long ago... I think the WCC will get boring real
fast"Your analysis is way off and smacks off out-of-state
homerism.I've been to most of BYU's home basketball games during the
Dave Rose era and except for an occassional late-December game after the
students had left, the Marriott Center has never been 3/4 empty during the last
six years.The WCC will be different, but there are some very good
teams in the WCC and Rose is already beefing up his non-conference schedule to
compensate for the WCC not being as strong as the MWC. BYU will continue to make
annual trips to the Big Dance and, as long as Dave Rose is BYU's head coach, BYU
basketball will continue to be exciting.
My team is from out of State...but a simple observation...BYU
fans...where were you the last 7 years when I moved here? Can you say bangwagon
fans? We all like a winner, but easy on the "we are the greatest fan
base" comments when I would take my 3 year old to a game and it would be
3/4 empty not too long ago. Bandwagon defines BYU Basketball. Everyone knows
the BYU fans are fickle and are the best stagecoach drivers in the land.Utah. Poor Utah. You want deperately to even get a glipse of a
bandwagon so you can not drive it like BYU fans, but just get the chance to ride
on it. No local players, bad schemes, poor record, boring bball, etc. I sure
hope both teams rise and be the best teams in thier conferences like in
football. It just makes things fun.I think the WCC will get boring
real fast; and Utah Coack K will turn it around, but not to the top. We need
to face the fact that football will dominate a lukewarm basketball project for
both schools for the next several years.
Get lost U trolls! Didn't you see Jimmer complete our QUest for Perfection?!
We are on a different plane now.Do do do do Cant touch this!!!
@ honorCodeApparently you still care. And BYU nation appreciates
you.BYU will have an excellent Basketball team next year. They will
have a less experienced but very talented guard lineup and will have an
excellent front court. They should be deep enough to play 8 or 9 in their
rotation and should be back in the NCAA tournament. They have some excellent
recruits on their radar. They have raised themselves a notch this year and
should stay there now.Great time to be a Cougar fan.
BYU's "Increase" in Attendance This Year, was Larger than Utah's Total
BYU is no longer part of the MWC................so who cares???
@notty0u You sort of got that right...what utey's hate worst to admit is
that BYU does get a lot more of the starry bannered headlines for it's sports
programs. That's always been a problem for utey's...and always will be. I liked
how Veritas Aquitas summed up utey obsession with joining the PAC in the blog
acompanying the related Utah article. One utey fan ranted on about leaving
behind places like Laramie, Wyoming, Ft Collins, Colorado and Albuquerque, New
Mexico. He simply said "Dude... to the other 10 PAC teams...you just became
their Laramie." Gotta be one of the best top 5 comebacks so far in any of
the Utah related PAC discussions. And as usual we find our little buddy Hedgie
still miserably camped out on the edge of the Great Black Swamp up near Ann
Arbor again utey tooting "No Joy" in uteyville.
hedge:if you weren't trolling a BYU article you wouldn't know these
comments existed. Kind of like the age old philisophical question:
"If the Utes lose to Oral Roberts, CSU and Air Force at the HC in front of
15000 empty red chairs, and no one sees it, did they really lose those
games?"You're accusong Y fans of Living vicariously through
their rival? The only reason anyone knows you're alive is because of your
comments on BYU articles.
And Hedgie you just could not resist commenting on another BYU article. Big fan
you are.Tennessee better look out. BYU is not far behind and another
year will have BYU with an even larger fan base. Go Cougars.
7 of 7 comments all referencing the Utes.Thanks little bro. We'll
send you a PAC12 postcard inwhich you can live vcariously through.Chow.
Not really that important, but BYUs winning percentage in SLC was 100% (which
includes delta center contests). utahs? Not even worth calculating.
Woooooo!!! Nothing like being comapared to the top programs in the nation. Way
to go fan base! Of course that is a great indicator of a team that wins and wins
often!!!Can't wait for this fan base to show it's enthusiams across
the nation. Go Cougs!
Typical BYU...always trying to grab the headlines. Didn't Utah
Basketball grab some headlines this year too? Don't they deserve a little more
exposure as well? I'm sure Squeegee and Krissy will make up for the
BYU is taking charge here. I see a lot of momentum built up with the whole
Jimmer-riffic season we just had. It's not like the cupboard is bare. If
anything, I see this as an opportunity for the Cougs to show that they are not a
UNLV is putting together a strong basketball staff.Sort of what I
had hoped Utah would have done getting ready for the PAC-12.
Oh yeah,I would still rather be independent.I would still
rather play in the WCC.I would still rather have my own deal with ESPN.I would still rather have my 1984 National Championship Trophy.I would
still rather have had the chance to see Jimmer play.I would still rather
have my attendance at BYU's events.than be U.
Wow,what will the trolls think about this? I am biting my nails in
anticipation.They had so much to say about ESPN and a possible bowl
game. What wisdom will they regale us with today?BYU is rising in
almost every single category. All around the country the vast majority of
people are aware of BYU, their programs and even some of their challenges.
What's better, (outside of our resident trolls on this board)most people have
positive impressions of BYU! I remember well, when more ill was spoken then
good, but now almost everything I read (from coast to coast) has BYU gaining
ground.And just in case you were wondering...Nope. I
still, couldn't care less about the PAC 10's junior members.