It would benefit the University greatly, if someone other than another male
espousing Mormon and conservative values were to succeed Young.
RE: Dutchman | 12:27 p.m. April 26, 2011 Ya, compare apples to
oranges. That's about as ridiculous as saying "When was the last time a U
of U president left to become a prophet, seer, and revelator?"The jobs that former U presidents have gone on to show that an impressive
string of leaders have been at the helm. But to attempt to make comparisons that
diminish former BYU presidents or to suggest that no former BYU president is
capable of having become any of those things that former U presidents have gone
on to is ludicrous.
"No success can compensate for failure in the home".-David O.
Allen #1,When was the last time a BYU president left to direct NASA
at the behest of the President of the United States? U Pres. James Fletcher did
it twice. When did a BYU president leave to become president of the University
of California system which includes UCLA and Cal-Berkeley? U Pres. David
Gardner did. When did a BYU president leave to become President of the
University of Florida? U pres Bernie Machen did. Do you mean to suggest that if
BYU presidents had these opportunities that the church would want them to stay
at BYU and not project their influence in other places? I think not. Staying
in one job a long time is not always best for the person or the organization.
Young has been an effective leader and administrator at the U., as he has been
in previous positions in the east. He will undoubtedly find success in Seattle,
as well. One of the key job requirements of a university president is to
increase the funding of his institution, and to grow its influence and impact.
The state of Utah doesn't need a diminished flagship university, quite the
opposite. It's too bad to lose Pres. Young, but he was in a difficult situation
that called for a change. A more complete story can be found in northwest media
Allen#1,Comparing the tenure of BYU's Presidents to that of the U's
Presidents is apples to oranges. Especially since BYU began the practice
calling their President into the Quorum of the Seventy at the same time. You
don't resign from the Quorum of the Seventy, you simply serve where you are
called and currently President Samuelson's calling is to serve as President of
BYU. He will serve there until the First Presidency decides his assignment
Thanks President Young. Univesity President's rarely have long tenures and it
is often good in any position to move on to new challenges before the energy and
vision for the old position lessens. Good luck and enjoy the North West.
Red Smith,That $2.6 billion dollar budget funds a lot of research
including vital life saving medical research not just money to educate students.
The U is by far and away the biggest economic engine the State has in terms of
economic development, jobs and the amount of business activity generated that
ends up in the private sector. When it comes to creating new start-ups from
academic research, only MIT compares to the University of Utah. The University
of Utah has become a leader in commercializing scientific breakthroughs.
Why not be creative and select the proven business leader H. David Burton to be
the next president of the University of Utah? He is also a
successful University of Utah graduate who has positive influence at the highest
level in both the State of Utah and the LDS Church...or would that offend the
University presidents are not expected to stay around a long time. Most
univerisities desire new leadership about every seven to ten years in order to
prevent stagnation in thought and policies.As for pay, most of the
department chairs at the U and I assume the president as well are paid with
donations from foundations and private individuals. I don't know why D N
Subscriber keeps beating this drum because it has been pointed out ad
nauseum.As for the ACLU comment made by sammyg, it may be of
interest to know that many ACLU attorneys in Utah and a previous director of the
ACLU in Utah are graduates of the J. Rueben Clark Law School at BYU. Why don't
you have some fun with that one.
Congrats, Mike! You will do well. Benson for the U!
(cont.) What a degree shows an employer is that you've spent time working on
your critical thinking and are generally knowledgeable about how the world
works. The key to a successful business is always innovative thinking, and
that's what "degrees to nowhere" can get you. Seriously walk around a
large business and ask what everybody's degree is in, I'll bet they're not all
directly related to where they work now.As to the debt thing, it's
very possible to go through college without accruing large debt. I worked, went
full time to school (at the U), lived on my own, graduated cum laude, and left
school with $0 in debt. Noone had to help me pay for school...it's all about
priorities and how much you want it.
Red Smith,Way to simplify the matter to an absurd degree. You act
like all the money is directly attributable to each student. A lot of the
budget is private donations so researchers can buy necessary equipment. You may
not like the universities (apparently from your comment), but I'll bet when you
get sick and go to a hospital, you're glad that some university researcher
somewhere discovered how to make you feel better. As to your
"degrees to nowhere" I don't believe in such a thing. Just because
there isn't a lot of jobs directly related to a degree doesn't mean that degree
hasn't helped that person. Law schools, for example, love candidates that come
with philosophy, comparative literature, or African-American studies degrees. A
lot of employers also just want to see that you have a degree of some kind. The
fact of the matter is, you can get job training. Even an accountant that gets a
job in accounting has to spend a lot of time on job training. (cont...)
Under Young's leadership, the U's budget increases from $1.6 Billion to $2.6
Billion an increase of $1 Billion.The U has 31,000 students. The
U's $2.6 Billion budget divided by 31,000 students is $80,600 spent per student
per year.Degrees to no where, students loaded with debt, after we
spend $322,500 to get them a degree for a $40,000 year job. There is something
wrong with this picture.I don't know how much "leadership"
it takes to spend $322,500 to get a 19 year old to read 30 books over a 4 year
period.What we need is an iphone application to replace the U.
Not all BYU fans are out to troll U articles. I just want to put in my modest
opinions. First of all, anyone that doesn't believe a university president
deserves a salary that compares to the CEO of a large corporation is asking for
mediocre of an organization that brings in a lot of revenue for the State of
Utah. Also, an insult served only on the basis of the ACLU is pretty
weak. Not everyone hates the ACLU, after all. It is an organization that might
on occasion cross the line but on the other hand does a lot of good much of the
time. Finally, I once took another job because it paid more than
where I worked before. Does that make me evil? Calm down, people.
It's a guy leaving one employee for whom he did a great job on good terms in
order to take a similar job elsewhere for his own reasons. That doesn't deserve
the vitriol that some people are spewing here.
So, I am not into the Y and U rivalry, but why would the U's President bring out
"trolls" and what would they be saying? I honestly would think that
the Y people would really not have an opinion on Young, I would think that there
would be a divide at the U, probably because he is LDS and there are some who
lean to a more liberal way of thinking there at the U. So good luck to him. I
do have to say that I do admire people who will not leave a job when they are
high paid to get more money. There are many like that, a lot of coaches and to
me that is real class, not downing those that leave for more money, just saying,
I respect those who are committed to those that they are working with.
Pres. Young showed his love for the University of Utah by his lateral move to
another PAC-12 school. BYU presidents have shown more class than UU presidents
who jump at the chance to grab more money from the more affluent taxpayers of
DN Subscriber, why would we want a radical right winger as the next President of
the U of U? The fringes on both the right and left are out of touch; generally
self serving and I feel very dangerous to our country. Moderates are what most
American's are (slightly right of center), and that is the type of leader we
need. More right wing or left wing radicals are the last thing we need as
University President or any other leadership position as it is always about
their radical self-serving agenda.Regarding pay, the reason Young left was
partially for more money. The U of U is the chief innovative job creator (good
jobs) in the State of Utah with many companies emerging as off growth of
University of Utah based research with all the subsequent economic benefit
(jobs, tax revenue). The good people of Utah have gotten an excellent return on
investment on President Young's salary. To cut the pay/attractiveness of the
position, thus likely limited the talent that would want the job that would be
the perfect example of about jumping over dollars to pick up a penny.
Not a big loss for Utah.But, it is a great opportunity to advertise
for a replacement at a salary figure that is more appropriate (in the eyes of
the taxpayers, if not in the opinion of the self proclaimed academic elites).Also, how about making this an opportunity for adding some of the often
praised "diversity" to the U of U campus and picking someone who is a
true conservative, not a flaming liberal like 95% of the rest of most
A lot of insecure BYU fans posting on this article.
Best of luck at your new digs. Perhaps you could leave a lighted match on some
dry tinder in some central location on your way out too...
@JustAnotherAverageGuy - Leadership is scalable and cream always rises to the
top. Benson has been successful at every level and his history indicates that
he would excel as President of the U.Also, don't confuse the size of
a school's enrollment with its' President's ability to lead. Some of the finest
universities in the country have small enrollments (e.g. Wake Forest - 4,400
students; Rice University - 3,500 undergrads; Duke University - 6,500
undergrads; University of Notre Dame - 8,300 undergrads to name a few).
You could go for Gee out of Ohio State if your #1 priority is a big school
person. Maybe he would like to return home to Utah. Really though Benson is
excellent. Maybe small schools to this point but he is excellent and I think he
would be fantastic where ever he is and regalrdless of the size of the school.
Congrats to President Young on the new job.To sammyg and other Y
trolls, glad to see your obsession with all things U of U goes beyond athletics;
you're pure class little bro.
For those promoting Michael Benson, I'd say it's a pretty big leap from Snow to
SUU to the U. I'd rather see someone brought in who has previous experience at
a school with more than 7500 students.
beaver...You omitted one critical requirement... must be a card
carrying ACLU member.
I agree with HavartiWhiz. Let the Michael T. Benson era begin at
the U! He is an incredibly effective and powerful leader with a
proven track record of success and accomplishment everywhere he has been. He
would be welcomed back at the U with more than open arms...let's hope we are
lucky enough to get him!
Adios M Young. The U needs a David Gardner type back at the helm.
The U won't be a destination job until the state decides to dedicate themselves
to it as a flagship campus. As it is (take a look at public records) the U pays
its professors and administrators terribly. In many areas, it gets beat out by
other state schools like Weber State, Utah State, and SUU. If you, as a PAC12
member, can't manage a better salary than they're handing out in Ceder City,
don't hold your breath on becoming a respected institution in academics.
Michael T. Benson for President anyone?
On behalf of Utah's stalwart football fans, I'd like to wish former Cougar Steve
Sarkisian continued success at UW.
Congratulations to President Young; he will do well at UW.I wish the
U could become more of a destination job, rather than a stepping stone, for
these highly qualified people like Young and Machen. His desire to move
elsewhere probably stems from budget battles with the Legislature.
@USAloverUniversity presidents like Young get paid higher salaries
like that because they operate billion dollar organizations. The U has a 2.5
Billion dollar operating budget, and Washington is near 4 Billion. Private
sector positions like that would pay millions. Not saying whether it's right or
wrong, I'm just saying those are the comparables.If they were making
the same as most private sector presidents do for similar sized organizations,
then I would be more worried.
Bodes well for the U's move to the PAC 12 to have a friendly face on the PAC 12
president's council from the U of Washington plus the new president at the U.
freddysheddy,Classless commment. How did that get past
the Deseret News monitors?
Wow, university presidents make a TON of money! Necessary???
Congrats to President Young for his new appointment!
Must have been the ACLU comment.
Thanks President Young. You did a lot of good while you were here. Too bad the
Utah legislature couldn't see past philisophical differences to make this a more
friendly place for you to stay. Good luck in new position.