"One overlooked reason that the University of Utah was asked to join the
PAC 12 is because of the direction and emphasis of research."Go
Runnin' Reseachers! They'll be the 2nd best Utah team in PAC 10.1.1beta, right
behind the Red Rocks.
I never even thought of reading a Ute article until they were invited into the
PAC 10 (now 12), but the title of the article intrigued me. I
thought this move was because they were all high and mighty; it turns out that
their basketball program is left high and dry. Nobody any good wants to stick
around and take a chance on another crummy season with a new coach.BYU, Coach Dave Rose, and the WCC are looking better all the time. Loyalty,
got to love it!
Thank You Ute21 One overlooked reason that the University of Utah was
asked to join the PAC 12 is because of the direction and emphasis of research.
AS was mentioned by the PAC commissioner the universities would benefit by
sharing of knowledge among the Universities. I too think that Duhkunter
should save his wind for his little duck call. Please be kind though, he has
spent a lot of time in a blind.
SportsCenterUm you actually are your playing Idaho St? You dont even
know your own teams schedule? Most people dont bother watching that channel
unless they are LDS or I guess now if they like byu football. Good luck to byu
in there national televised games, the reason for those are because of the teams
their playing not byu its self.Snack PAC You are the same guy
just a different username. All I am saying is stop with the trolling thats all.
We all know why byu wasnt invited and it wasnt because they didnt have good
athletic teams. Religion was the biggest factor, it would have been cool to have
both teams invited to represent our state but that wasnt the case. Lets face it
Utah needs byu and byu needs Utah. The rivarly is a good thing! I just get tired
of post after post from duckhunter and on your sie chris b or who ever.
@mesouteI'm not so sure simply giving sought after councel to kids
he has a mentor type relationship with is as nefarious as you try to make it
sound. I can definately understand how it would irritate you, and other ute
fans, as you only care about the school itself and simply want wins for your own
personal satisfaction.Remember the university gave Boylen the
contract he has, they then fired him, he is entitled to his money and he is
under no obligation to pursue jobs he has no interest in simply because it would
benefit the school that fired him.Once again your frustration and
irritation is understandable but of course you are only looking at it from the
perspective of what you want and what you think is in the best interest of you.
You desire for the university of utah to have a winning basketball program and
don't care one bit if boylen, or these players, want other things for
themselves.I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but
understand just because it is what you want doesn't mean that it is the right
thing for them.
Dear Hedgehog just go to BYU Cougars website and you can see the football
schedule for next year. It really is not that difficult. Try it.
Will there be any players left on the team by the time the season starts?
In a petty attempt to outdo each other the posters on this topic are missing the
point. The point is that Jim Boylen is putting himself in danger of having his
buyout revoked as it becomes more and more obvious that he is steering these
kids away from the Utes and into other avenues. Furthermore, Boylen, although
contacted by Easter Michigan to interview as head coach, rejected the interview.
In my opinion, at least presently, Boylen does not seem to be honoring the good
faith employment clause in his contract that states he shall use good faith to
obtain employment. He seems content to collect 2 million dollars from the Utes
while sabotaging the program even more than he already did with his inept
coaching ability. This is frustrating as a fan to observe.
Samantha g from Springville, you are too funny, who is trolling who's stories;
this is a story about the U of U and you and the rest of you little brother
kitten trolls are all over this board with your baseless predictions of woe for
your big brother up north. You and Ducky are too funny with your overwhelming
obsession with all things U of U, it says a lot about you. Your funniest line
is that I am jealous of BYU's "momentum." Pretty sad if all your team
has going for it is supposed "momentum" vice real accomplishments.
Too bad imaginary momentum doesnt get your team invited to a real conference.
People. Grow up. It's a game. These are kids and young adults. They act more
mature than you. Please.
"I do this not out obsession, but rather sheer meanness so that you can eat
your words."Hailstoned... One of the funniest lines I've seen
in a long time. Kind of reminds me of when President Nixon said, "I'm not a
crook."Go get a dictionary and look up the definition for
obsession. We all enjoy it following our teams and posting on these boards. What
makes you so special to think you're above any of this! LOL!
Seriously, a hedgehog who lives under a bubble of delusion in the frozen tundra
of Michigan is talking smack about where another blogger lives.Laughable.
"In the meantime, dog on Fruit Heights, without knowing. I choose fruit
Heights (Where Andrew Richs Dad lives)."fruits.Really fruits. Really. You chose to live in da heights because Andrew Rich's
dad lives there? hmmm. I hope the Rich family has a good secruity system.
@PebblesNow I'm LOL"7 wins they didnt beat anyone
of particular note." And the Utes did?Let's see in your winning
season of 10-3 who did you beat of particular note? I think it's hilarious that
the 10-3 season is not remembered for the any wins... it's those classic losses
of 7-47, 3-28, 3-26 on national tv! Who can forget? LOLOn the other
hand BYU's season was one of redemption... and winning it's bowl game. You've
got some real issues when a winning season of 10-3 just makes you so 'bitter and
jealous' of BYU and Jake Heaps and to bring it up on a BB story. Momentum and
relevance Pebbles, that's what the Cougars got and you're jealous of it.Funny how a story about another BB player possibly leaving ends up in a
discussion on football.LOL!
bballjunkie, true players may pick the a school based on the coach they would
play for but the fact of the matter is that when they sign that letter of intent
they are are saying they are going to play for the institution, not the coach. I
don't blame the college kids for not grasping this, even though it is clearly
stated in the national letter of intent, no I hold accountable the bitter old
coach who knows better. Sure they may have decided to come here because of the
coach but he is not the one they committed to and he was not the one paying for
their scholarship. Jim needs to grow up and put the best interest of the
players first and not his own grudge. Good luck finding a new school to hire you
with that kind of behavior.On a related note maybe is Boylen would
have done a better job recruiting players to the University and not to him then
he would have had more than just a few players that were D1 quality.
It wouldnt be Spring in Utah (or Summer, Fall or Winter) without BCS wanna be
BYU fans trolling all over the boards looking for anything negative written
about the U of U so they can pounce like the little kittens they are. For a 7-6
team they sure do have a lot of confidence which defies logic as even in those 7
wins they didnt beat anyone of particular note. Seems they are just going off
the boastings of their big headed (in ego way) QB who has yet to do anything
more than beat a hapless UTEP team. Utah was at its absolute worst when the two
teams played last year with Wynn reeling from an injury and despite Heaps'
supposed great play he still could not get his team a win against their hated
rival. I too can't wait until Sept. when the teams meet again as if Utah can
still beat BYU when they are playing at their worst (i.e. last year) think what
they'll be able to do with a healthy Wynn (reference Iowa State game last year).
hedgehog | 4:57 p.m. Ann Arbor, MI Fruity,Dude, focus.
Utah "recruits" many players but only offers scholarships to a select
few. ===Dude, serious, that is what you bring. You live
in Ann Arbor and talk smack about Fruit Heights? Dude, do you even know where I
live....Regardless, sure the Utes recruit many, and offer schollies
to the few that will accept, and then lose those. The drifters end up at at BYU,
have schollies offered at the U, and pick the Y. This guy, Johnson, would have a
full ride at the U and picked ASU. If not picked the U, and if BYU wanted him,
would have chosen BYU. Why is that? Not the honor code, but would have wanted to
win."Dude, Focus"... No one wants a schollie at the U, for
football or basketball...Why???You tell me why the U
recruits players and they choose somewhere else.Ann Arbor, would you
choose the U????Give a reason, then show your ability to roll into a
tight ball, causing all of the spines to point outwards.In the
meantime, dog on Fruit Heights, without knowing. I choose fruit Heights (Where
Andrew Richs Dad lives).
Duhkunter.. Why are you the only one laughing ? I save the articles for
statements made as if you already know the outcome. For example.... * Prepare
yourself for an absolutely brutal and "soul crushing" defeat that day
and plenty more all season long. You ute 'fans" are in for a looong and
embarrassing season. I put the over/under on how many times utah's offense is
shut out at 3 and the over/under on how many times they score less than 10
points at 7." I do this not out obsession, but rather sheer meanness
so that you can eat your words. I don't care for a windbags nor a know it
all. Good sports observations and responses make for good reading , but
some of your comments are of the age where you still are fighting for the only
shovel in the sandbox. I just have to read around the spelling and
grammatical errors. AS far as the scoring goes ? You forgot to factor
in the defense. Utah also brings to the table a COY and 3 time assistant
Coach of the Year. That's an intangible that even your crystal balls can't
Let's forget all the trash talking about football schedules of the two local
schools and the like. That has nothing to do with the article in question.I have always liked Boylen, thought of him as a classy person, etc.
However, he should really zip it when it comes to his former players. The
players that he coached are committed to the University of Utah. He is no
longer their coach. If they decide to go elsewhere, it should be without any
input or encouragement from him. Maybe I am reading too much into it, but I
hope he is not helping former players find other schools to attend. That
strikes me as out of bounds.
Fruity,Dude, focus. Utah "recruits" many players but only
offers scholarships to a select few. BYU fans have a difficult time
understanding this concept. When the Y picks up some drifter with no other
offers you often hear the kewg fans banging the drum that the recruit had
interest from several BCS programs......so what.Without an offer
it's a one way street.
Any Utah basketball player that wants to leave the University should just go.
They are players that are "not in" and not willing to do the dirty
work to help turn the Ute basketball program around. They are not mature enough
to realize Boylen made personal promises to them that Boylen simply couldn't
keep. They are not mature enough to realize Boylen is actually tampering with
the University of Utah. Boylen did a poor job representing the University of
Utah, and I'm becoming more satisfied to see him gone.
Hedge...Are you arguing the definition of the word
"considered"?Lame.Try this article out of
AZCENTRAL.==="I know schools are going to be after me,
but ... the fact that I really like the facilities, I really like the campus and
all the support they give to the players, this just seemed like the right
choice. I had never been to Arizona before, and I didn't know ASU was that nice.
I've been to UCLA and USC, and I liked it better than those schools."--"Oregon State and Utah also were recruiting Johnson"--, who
began his collegiate career at Div. II Missouri Western University. He
redshirted his first season, but left soon thereafter. "It just didn't
really work out there," Johnson said, "And I wanted to have a chance
to play at a higher level."===Oregon State and Utah were
also "recruiting" Johnson.Define recruiting...Once again, if they don't choose Utah, Utah doesn't want them???Then WHY does Utah recruit them???????===Bottom line... ASU? Is
ASU the cream of the PAC? If Utah can't even get the guy to come and look at the
U how will they compete in the PAC?
Pac-10.1.1beta is hilarious! I like it and will now drop my upgraded PAC-10.2
back to the more stable Pac-10.1.1beta version! Thanks for the
@hailstorm"defaming remarks" bwaaahaaaahaaaaaa........It seems you take this all very personally, as if you actually have
anything to do with the program or the wins and losses other than you simply
chose to root for a team. LOLIt is more than a little bit pathetic
that you have created a "Duckhunter" file but at the same time I wear
it as a badge of honor. Who is obsessed with whom?LOL
I don't see any more than four ute wins this coming year. Lots of luck fellas.
Utes21The only inferiority complexes I've seen are Utah fans beating
the chests for the last 10 months about their PAC 10.2 invite. I don't recall
any other fans acting that way. Half the football teams in the Big
East came over from Conference USA long before Utah was invited to the PAC. TCU fans have been silent about their invite to the Big East. It's only Utah fans who have been giddy with excitement because they finally
got invited to sit at the big kids table, not because of anything special that
the Utes did, but simply because there were a couple of empty chairs at the
table.Our first Quest for Perfection ended in our first national
championship. Our second Quest for Perfection is still ongoing, but,
as Jake Heaps said, BYU sets their goal a little higher than simply playing in a
For the Utes taking shots at the Cougs schedule, tell me what three teams you
play that will be better than TCU, Texas, and UCF collectively?Oh
sure, Montana St may be better than Idaho; but what matters is the top of the
schedule not the bottom because I'm pretty sure that both teams will take care
of Montana St and Idaho without a problem.Taking it one step
further, the strength of schedule doesn't really even matter. The only thing
that truly matters in this rivalry is what happens on September 17. And just
like you were Jimmered during the basketball season, you're going to get Jaked
on September 17.I do find it ironic that O'Brien is looking at a
lowly WCC team. Players don't care about the reputation of the conference, they
care about the quality of the program at the university.
Utes21 While you're enjoying your one big game of the season that
doesn't involve BYU, that regionally televised game at USC, BYU fans will be
enjoying ESPN nationally televised games at Ole' Miss and Texas, a primetime
ESPN nationally televised in the Jerry Dome vs TCU, plus other nationally
televised primetime games with UCF and Utah State.Thanks to BYU,
however, you'll also get to play on ESPN when you visit LES.btw,
enjoy Little House on the Praire on KBYU, but BYU's football games will be
broadcast on ESPN/BYUtv. You see, like Utah with KUED, BYU also has
a mostly student run local educational television station. Unlike Utah, however,
BYU also has a state of the art HD television station that's already available
on the basic tier of cable stations in 60 million homes nationwide, and on
additional systems worldwide.BYU's WAC games may be fluff, but at
least the Cougars aren't playing a Big Sky team.
Oh man the tds trolls have now come in full force now, they will make sure to
tell you they dont have a Ute inferiority complex. They will say the Utes will
be cellar dwellars because they all can tell the future. Look how they predicted
their Quest for Perfection season! Ute fans everywhere should despair and call
the season already over! The trolls have spoken and we should listen. You all
have as much credibility as Chris B, please one of you say mark it down!
Utes21 | 2:52 p.m. April 19, 2011 Salt Lake City, Ut Fruit Heights I
was wondering when you where going to show up! Duck needed a troll buddy for
back up and more people to talk about tds on a Ute article.===Go back and read my posts.First one started Boylen, second about
the Ute recruit that went to ASU.If you have an issue about me
responding to DaveS or KamUte about what they posted on a Ute story, You should
bring that up with DaveS or KamUte, or even yourself, bro.If Utes21
doesn't want BYU mentioned on a Ute article, why does Utes21, and fans bring up
the issue.But really, go read my posts, then whine some more.
@bigutefan 1:10, etal:All you wannabees keep thumping your chest
about your BCS awesomeness, but in the end it is all about the "W".What good will it do utah to be sucking canal water with Colorado and
Washington State the majority of the time in the Pac 10.1.1? September can't get
here soon enough - we'll see then who is the real BCS team.
The real funny posting will be when the Utes schedule is printed with the W-L
record and point spread next to it...the Utes are going to take a
pounding...mark it down.
One nice thing about beating Utah early in the season is it will destroy the SOS
talking points of jealous whiners like Dave S and KamUte. You
haven't played anybody - goneYou haven't beaten anybody - goneYou've only played cupcakes - maybe true, but would they really dare use
itJust think, the newly minted, mighty PAC 12 team losing their
first PAC 12 game, and then following up that embarrassment by getting smoked by
an "inferior" independent team.There is one team in the
rivalry that may be lucky to win 7 games, but that team resides on a hill about
45 miles north of LES.
KamUte | 2:39 p.m. April 19, 2011 South Jordan, UT To Dave S.I was thinking the exact same thing. The schedule in front of me is even
more laughable than I thought. There are 5 wins for sure and possible two
more.===Would it be OK if Utah and BYU just play out there
schedules to see how the W's and L's work out on the field anyway?Geeze...Why don't you just head to Vegas now and make a living in
a sportsbook?Kam, do you know anything at all about sports?
Two things. Taco salad, you are nuts if you thinks athletes pick the school
first over a coach. No kid thinks I want to go to utah with out the coach being
the biggest influence.Big Ute fan, won't help in utah's case they
have years to try and get it together.
"Johnson committed right after he made a visit to ASU.What is
your point?"Buster,The article used the word
"considered" as in Johnson "considered" Oregon and
Utah....Johnson's "consideration" probably ended when he
realized he didn't have and offer from either school.Not saying Utah
and Oregon werent interested in Johnson, but clearly not enought of put forth an
offer.BTW, Utah signed a JC OT for the class of 2012 yesterday....
might be worthwhile for the Dnews to report on something that acutally affects
Glenn Dickey is so out of touch with reality it hurts. Ask Boise St. if they
regret playing on Thursday and Friday. It's all about exposure and getting your
product out there.
Fruit Heights I was wondering when you where going to show up! Duck needed a
troll buddy for back up and more people to talk about tds on a Ute article. By
the way here is the the only schedule that matters. Thu. 09/01/11 Montana
StSat. 09/10/11at USC Sat. 09/17/11at TDS Sat. 10/01/11Washington Sat. 10/08/11Arizona StateSat.
10/15/11at PittsburghSat. 10/22/11at California Sat.
10/29/11Oregon StateSat. 11/05/11at ArizonaSat.
11/12/11UCLA Sat. 11/19/11at Washington StateSat.
11/26/11Colorado Man my choice between New Mexico St or USC. Watch
the Utes play with the big boys on primetime, or watch the kittens play against
the fearsome leftover WAC on kbyu after little house on the prairie. I think
most people have made up there mind which schedule is better.
Well as long as we beat u...the number 11 team in the pac!
Veritas Aequitas You should know hedgehog's MO by now. Every Utah
recruit walks on water until the moment he commits to another team, then the kid
can barely walk and chew gum at the same time and Utah never wanted him in the
Duhkunter... Yep I saved it. Should Utah win the game in September then I
will post your crystal ball, know it all, and defaming remarks. Should BYU
win then I'll give credit to the winning team.
You know the schedule would be better if it didn't have the bottom tier of the
Pac 10 on it.
To Dave S.I was thinking the exact same thing. The schedule in front
of me is even more laughable than I thought. There are 5 wins for sure and
possible two more. This team will be lucky to win 7. Just think, BYU
will be the third best independent football team out of four. Talk about
@ DuckhunterAll I can say is talk is cheap!! Obviously I touched on
a sore spot with you making fun of your powerful schedule. With predictions
like you are making I hope you aren't a gambling man.
hedgehog | 10:14 a.m. April 19, 2011 Ann Arbor, MI "Oliver
Johnson was never offer a scholarship from Oregon or Utah "===Hedge, Johnson committed right after he made a visit to ASU.What is your point?Like everyone else who does not commit to Utah,
Utah did not want them?Do you feel better now?
TheHailstorm | 1:29 p.m. April 19, 2011 South Weber, UT It
does sounds like Boylen isn't doing Utah any favors. Articles like this makes it
looks as though he is helping the former recruits in choosing new schools. ===The guy sounds angry, and I used to think he was a nice guy. It's
obvious he feels he owns the players. Not a classy thing to do.=====Dave S | 1:41 p.m. April 19, 2011 Holladay, UT @
DuckhunterThanks for giving me a good laugh by posting that schedule
for BYU next year. It's even funnier seeing it in writing!!!===The
schedule made you laugh? Why? If you really look at the schedule,
for a first year independent, Holmoe really did a pretty decent job. There are a
few teams on there that I really did not expect.But, feel free to
clear it up. What did you expect?Hailstorm thought patience was a
good thing for Coach K2... Let's exercise and see how things work out in the
future.However, Dave, enlighten me... Do you think the U game will
be tough for BYU, or one of the cupcakes?
@dave sMy guess is most of the laughing will be done by BYU fans on
September 17th. Prepare yourself for an absolutely brutal and "soul
crushing" defeat that day and plenty more all season long. You ute
'fans" are in for a looong and embarrassing season. I put the over/under on
how many times utah's offense is shut out at 3 and the over/under on how many
times they score less than 10 points at 7.Yes I'm sure hailstorm
will save that in his "Duckhunter quotes" file so we will have record
Dave SLaugh all you want, but that schedule, combined with an
undefeated or 1-loss season, will have BYU playing in a BCS bowl next January.
@hailstormDid I even address you or the O'Brien situation? You must
be pretty sensitive to have your feelings hurt by someone that never even had
you cross his thoughts. Or is it the fact you never even crossed my thoughts
that hurt your little feelings?LOL
Oh man the duckdude is commenting on Ute articles that never happens! You would
know who the trolls are wouldnt you? Where is your best friend sam? Glad
tds fans can predict the Utes season for them, how about focusing your comments
on your own teams articles? Oh wait thats impossible because you got Crimson
Fever complex. Stop being a Ute hater.I agree with many of these comments
why is the Dnews even talking about Boylen. Who cares, you obviously werent good
enough. I hope we will see improvements next year but I think it will take a
while for Utah to bounce back in basketball. I am glad we still have KWhitt, I
am excited for the season to begin even though will have to wait a while. Go
@ DuckhunterThanks for giving me a good laugh by posting that
schedule for BYU next year. It's even funnier seeing it in writing!!!
bigutefanWe're saving our biggest dig for September 17th, because
bottom-line, words are cheap.
Gosh Duhkunter you really hurt my feelings. On the matter of O'Brien
there's that pesky free agency option raising it's head. I'm sure Coach K2 will
be is a bind for a year or two but ,to me, patience is time well spent. It does
sounds like Boylen isn't doing Utah any favors. Articles like this makes it
looks as though he is helping the former recruits in choosing new schools.
@ThleteI agree, I like an occasional Thursday or Friday game as
well. I really don't see what the big deal is but there have been quite a few
ute trolls, like wedgie and howie, that have been making a big deal about it for
the last several months. I notice they no longer seem to think it is that big a
deal when utah has to play on those nights. Typical behavior from them I
I personally like the occasional Thursday and Friday games because I can catch
all the other CFB action at home on Saturday if I already went to the Utes game
for the week. The downside is that there isn't time to tailgate on a weekday
night game after work, so only 1 or 2 of them is nice.
Re: bigutefanLet's talk about the bottom line: UofU football will be
middle to bottom of the Pac-10.1.1beta, i.e., no BCS bowl appearances in the
foreseeable future. Utah basketball will be at the very bottom of Pac-10.1.1beta
basketball ... for the foreseeable future. Bon appetite!
WOW! The boot polish must taste pretty good huh hedgie. You and all your troll
kronies like otis, chrissy, naval, wilary and the rest must all have a little
"foot-in-mouth" disease after that one. Of course for $20
mil per year (supposedly), the U will do anything the network tells you to do.
I'd rather watch dancing with the stars than pick up a U hoops telecast on a
Tue/Wed night.Would it be accurate to say the U hoops program has
more coaches than actual players at this point?
Dish out all the digs you can Provo fans, bottom line, your not a BCS team or in
a BCS conference. Enough said!
@wedgieSince you are obviously incapable of using the google I'll go
ahead and enlighten you. LOLSaturday Sept. 3rd - Ole MissSaturday Sept. 10th - TexasSaturday Sept. 17th - UtahFriday Sept.
23rd - Central FloridaFriday Sept. 30th - USUSaturday Oct. 8th - San
Jose St.Saturday Oct. 15th - Oregon St.Saturday Oct. 22nd - Idaho
St.Friday Oct. 28th - TCUSaturday November 12th - IdahoSaturday November 19th - New Mexico St.Saturday Dec. 3rd - HawaiiSo let's see....9 Saturday games and 3 Friday games. It was actually 10
Saturdays and 2 Fridays but BYU dropped Louisiana Tech and added TCU and that is
a big money made for prime time tv game on a Friday night. The Friday night USU
game is traditional because that is conference weekend and has nothing to do
with tv schedules.The Friday night games all have a scheduled 6pm
start whereas the Saturday games do not yet have a starting time although BYU
home games traditinally start at noon.Not a Tuesday, Wednesday or
Thursday in the bunch although as I said weeknight games don't bother me, I
actually like them. I coach football on Saturdays so I have more conflicts then.
to Hedgehog: Why would you want to know when BYU is playing this year. The
ONLY time that you watch BYU play is when they play the U.
Lonestar runnerYou are mistaken. The big deal with Saturday play came up
when the conference tv deal was formed. At the time espn wanted the MWC to
schedule games on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday as well as cut the
money by 2/3. Only then did Saturday play become a big deal.All BCS
conferances have played for years and will continue to play non Saturday games.
The Pac 12 may even play on Sunday if there is no NFL. Although, Saturday is
optimal, there was never a choice in this regard. The Pac 12 and all other BCS
conferences have some non saturday games. I have not heard any Utah complaints
on this issue, to the contrary many have comented about the bennifits of a
national audience that playing on a Thursday, Friday, or even Sunday providesWhere is this insecurity coming from?
Ouch. How sad to see this year's Utah player exodus becoming a repeat of last
year's. This appears to be a new tradition for Utah basketball.For
the (hopefully) minority of Ute fans who think that being a part of the Pac-12
makes a school more attractive in every way, this begs the question: Why would a
talented player even consider transferring from a "big conference"
school to schools from "lowly conferences" like the MWC and the *gasp*
WCC?Reality check: For every USC, Florida, and Texas there is a
Washington State, Iowa State, Vanderbilt, Maryland, and DePaul.
"Of course it was all false as BYU only has a couple of non Saturday games
and certainly none on a day like Tuesday"Ducky, Because your in the "know", can you tell me the exact days and times
for all of BYU football games next fall?Thanks.
I agree with Taco salad on this one. Why are we even putting quotes from Boylen
in the paper. We should not promote this kind of activity from him.
Ouch on JJ, ouch on Johnson. Saturday games will be reserved for the elite of
the Pac-10. Here is to Thursday / Friday / Tuesday games.
I officially dislike Boylen. Before I felt for him and was sorry things didn't
work out. But now he is acting as an agent for the players that signed at Utah
like J.J. O'Brien. This is bush league and unprofessional. Despite what Jim may
think, student athletes sign to play for a school, NOT THE COACH. This is
clearly stated in the NCAA Letter of Intent. But I guess it is obvious why
Boylen never succeed in getting players were UTAH across their chest meant
@MiPActually many of the ute trolls on here have been making
comments for months about BYU having to play games on Fridays, Thursdays and
even claiming they would have to play them on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. It was
done in such a way as to make it appear that it was a done deal and BYU was
simply being used by ESPN to fill time slots because of their contract. They
also bragged utah would now be playing all their games on Saturdays.Of course it was all false as BYU only has a couple of non Saturday games and
certainly none on a day like Tuesday. utah on the otherhand will not be playing
their games all on Saturdays and might very well play more weeknight games than
BYU. They will do this because the pac10 tv contract will dictate they do it and
they will have no say in the matter.Now I personally do not mind
games on Thursday or Friday nights although Fridays interfere with the High
School games I attend. But calling the ute trolls out for their intellectual
dishonesty and hypocrisy is certainly legitimate.
I'm unsure how many Ute fans have actually been "beating their chests"
about BCS teams playing all of their games on Saturday (for instance, Hedgehog
has clearly been in favor of Sunday games), but I would agree with Lonestar that
BCS and non-BCS conferences alike are becoming slaves to TV contracts, which is
a little disheartening. And while I prefer my college FB to be
played on Saturday, one or two games a year on a Friday or Thursday probably
won't be the end of the college game. The bay area author even stated that
Stanford had many more fans in its stands in the 60s and 70s, yet they've been
playing on Saturday all of this time. So it's probably not scheduling that as
key as the fact the games simply will be televised. So that logic
seems lost. I mean, I love attending games: the atmosphere, the pagentry, the
excitement---even in losses. But TV offers an appealing alternative that may
just keep the stands around 50K in Palo Alto. Even on Saturday afternoons.
"The latest sign that running after TV money is going to kill the golden
goose for college football: The Pac-12 will televise games on Thursday and
Friday nights this season."For months the kids on the hill have
been beating their chests about BCS teams not having to play Thu and Fri night
games; in reality, the PAC 12 will be just as much a slave to the television
schedulers as non-BCS teams.
Oliver Johnson was never offer a scholarship from Oregon or Utah
Stay at Utah, JJ. It will pay off.
New Mexico, UNLV or Saint Mary's would all be better options for J.J. because
he'd have an opportunity to play in the Big Dance a couple of times during his
career, rather than being part of a rebuilding project for the next three years.