Sutherland Institute takes aim at 'right-wing extremism' in illegal immigration debate

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  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    April 18, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    As a former friend of Gaylord Swim (RIP 2005), I am appalled by Mr. Mero's departure from the "authentic conservative" principles that should have been the foundation of the Sutherland Institute.

    The Sutherland Institute always had similarities between its ideologies and the conservatism common in the LDS Church. But under Mr. Mero's poor leadership, the Institute has become nothing but a thin and superficial veneer over popularist religious rhetoric.

    Mero's stance on illegal immigration is no only in direct contradiction of the Republican Party Platform, but also with the Sutherland Institutes's own principle: Personal Responsibility as the basis of self-government.

    This principle asserts that "a free and prosperous Utah requires personal responsibility from its people... that every Utahn should act with honesty and integrity..."

    But Mero does not demand illegal "Utahns" to live the same way? Mero wants lawbreakers to receive amnesty? Mero wants to turn his back on justice and the rule of law? Mero wants to make illegals and exception to "Personal Responsibility"?

    The Sutherland Institute has lost my support (which was substantial).

  • So-CalAggie Anaheim, CA
    April 17, 2011 6:20 p.m.

    LOL "Sutherland Institute takes aim at 'right-wing extremism'..." Perhaps they should take aim at their own right-wing extremist anti-government push. Remember, these are the folks who are pro-voucher and called the Utah people "uninformed" (I would like to use another word but for some reason Desnews wont allow me to say the "S" word and I'm not talking bad "S" word) for overturning the voucher bill, and these are the same folks who are against UHAA, and would like to see all government agencies disbanded and privatized. How's that for a "right-wing extremist" viewpoint?

  • CJ Murray, UT
    April 17, 2011 2:27 p.m.

    I truly resent the condescending of attitude of Mr. Mero that we somehow needs him to "teach" us all about "extremism" , he seems to me to be the poster child for the subject. Arguing that someone whose first act in this country is to break the law by crossing the border with a backpack full of drugs to pay their way, and whose next act is to steal the identity of a child which they then use to steal job from an American citizen, and who then go to a hospital where they don't pay the bill and figure out any way they can to rob the state and national treasuries somehow ought to be put on a pathway to American citizenship is my definition of "extremism" Mr. Mero. You don't know the meaning of the word. If and when we need you to lecture us on anything we will let you know. The mere release of this drivel is about as arrogant an action as I have ever seen.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    April 17, 2011 8:28 a.m.

    John C. C., I cannot believe you are claiming that an honest economic review would indicate we need more foreign workers. Please point us to such a study so we can read it.

  • fanUVU Orem, UT
    April 17, 2011 7:44 a.m.

    Mero is right in the broader sense: The extremists have control of the process in Utah. They are the ones who show up and are most vocal at the neighborhood level; and those of us with provable conservative credentials but who do not bow to their ultra far-right agenda are left on the outside. The losers: The bulk of the people of Utah.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    April 16, 2011 6:39 p.m.

    How many "deportation caucus" enthusiasts would support more legal immigration? They talk as if it's all about the law, but if the law were to increase quotas and bring in more foreign nationals would they support those laws, too? I feel the real issue is about something less noble.

    An honest economic review would show that we would benefit from welcoming more foreign-born residents. There's nothing illegal about changing the visa quotas.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    April 16, 2011 3:25 a.m.

    "There is no virtue in thinking that you, as an adherent, know more about a faith than the authorities appointed to govern and administer that faith." (from: "The Poison of Extremism," revised April 14, 2011)

    First, let's get something straight, Mr. Mero. You -- of ALL people -- do NOT speak for the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Truth, which is the actual governor and administrator of the faith of legions of faithful Latter-Day Saints.

    Second, the views, relative to the rule of law, of those whom you falsely accuse of being "extremists," do NOT "contradict" actual LDS Church doctrine, but happen to agree with it perfectly. I would remind you of the actual text of the 12th Article of Faith: "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law."

    I would remind you also of the Ninth Commandment: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

    Lastly I would remind you that actions speak louder than words. Satan himself, after all, would falsely refer to himself as a "Conservative," his doctrines as "Conservatism," and his church as a "Conservative Think Tank."

  • watchman Salt Lake City, UT
    April 15, 2011 5:16 p.m.

    It is sad to be labelled 'extreme' for wanting to see laws enforced and to protect jobs, neighborhoods, our kid's identities and the values of American citizenship.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 15, 2011 3:54 p.m.

    Your against 'right-wing extremism?'

    That's extreme!

    Sarcaism off.

    It's nice to see self-proclaimed conservatives taking a stance against extremism.

    It's too late, but it's nice.

    The Tea Party Republicans have taken over. And their apparent extremism (Gonna Kill grandma, Birthers, Shut down the goverment) will work in the short term, attracting the fringe of each group...

    but fail in the long-term, distancing themselves away from the curcial vote: Moderates & Independants.

    Without this balancing influence, the party will continue to 'eat itself.' By calling for 'purity' and the decline of compromise. Allowing other influences (Bachman, Chaffetz, Palin) to be the leading powers in a declining party.

    Leaving Moderates to side with the only real party left, the Democratic party. With their progressive and liberal ideas.

    aka, the conservative movement, has gone crazy.

    FYI, this is the very first time I have agreed with the Sutherland Institute.

  • FarnsworthPMacGillicuddy Layton, UT
    April 15, 2011 12:07 p.m.

    It would be interesting to see who/what entities are funding Mero's pursuit of alleged right-wing extremism. I find that anyone who tacitly approves of illegal immigration, either by a legislative "wink-and-a-nod" or by parsing words in the name of political and religious expediency, to be supporting the New Slavery. Trafficking in humans is most reprehensible. Mr. Mero, what part of "honoring, obeying and sustaining the law" don't YOU get? I'm sure that your handlers and donors are pulling the strings of your economical survival,so that you can perform their political wet work that they lack the moral courage to do.
    Since I am adamantly and unashamedly against the scourge of illegal immigration and those who traffic and profit from it, and those who enslave illegal immigrants for their personal profit, Mr Mero, count ME, as an extremist.

  • Viva la Migra American Fork, UT
    April 15, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    It sounds like Mr. Paul Mero struggles with extreme arrogance. Too bad this is blinding him to the reality that many people disagree with his "extreme" views on welcoming thousands upon thousands of illegal aliens into Utah to work in low-paying jobs, while downplaying the ramifications.

    I believe most people from here have a sense of fairness and justice. We cheer when the good guys win, we hope that working hard and being honest will pay off with financial and other success.

    The notion of allowing/encouraging hundreds of thousands of people to blatantly disregard many laws, cheating their way to "success" and taking advantage of our welfare state while victimizing many people in different ways is contrary to the values I have and most of the people I know.

    Now that Utah's a magnet for illegal aliens, it will be fascinating to watch and see how long it takes for the increased demand for welfare, ESL and other programs bankrupts the state. I'm going to watch from afar.

  • danaslc Kearns, UT
    April 15, 2011 8:27 a.m.

    Thank You Mero and Sutherland Institute for coming out of the closet with this wonderful article. For years we have tried to show that Sutherland Institute was a liberal left wing organization. You have just now shown this to be true. Sutherland Institute is a Constitution breaker organization. Thank goodness we have patriots in this state to hold Mero at arms length. Thanks again Mero for exposing the liberal agenda of Sutherland Institute. Thanks Deseret News for this article.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 15, 2011 5:58 a.m.

    Mero and his tiny band of followers does not speak for this conservative.

    Opposing illegal immigration in any form is the morally as well as legally correct and principled conservative position.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    April 15, 2011 5:51 a.m.

    A new race card has been added to the deck. It's called "Rightwing Extremist."
    Actually, I think it was created by Homeland Security in cooperation with the SPLC.
    Race cards are used when countering logic and the rule of law.
    The Sutherland Institute ought to be ashamed of themselves for using race cards.

  • MCFergy Salt Lake City, UT
    April 15, 2011 12:09 a.m.

    On the first account and with Paul Mero at the helm of the Sutherland Institute, how can the institute its self be considered as a truly conservative think tank?

    Secondly, Mr. Mero is demonstrating and deploying all of the tactics used by the Neoliberal left. When he is backed into a corner or feels his opinion may be overridden by a majority of the population, he resorts to personal and group character assassination and the same old tired Neolib talking points nativism, racism, bigotry, you know the routine.

    If an individual, group of individuals or the majority see Comprehensive Immigration Reform as failed policy; and see enforcement first and then possible concessions for non-criminal illegal aliens as separate incremental steps to attain the same result, Paul Mero and the Comprehensive, compassion crowd go ballistic.

    1986: The first Compressive Immigration Reform installed amnesty without a hitch, while enforcement was ignored and put us where were at today. Why not reverse that failed policy and enforce immigration law, round-up and deport criminal aliens and then offer those remaining illegal aliens an application to work legally in the U.S.?

  • Linus Bountiful, UT
    April 14, 2011 11:35 p.m.

    Barry Goldwater said "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice."

    April 14, 2011 10:54 p.m.

    Mero thinks those who disagree with him "Extremist"?

    I am far from a tea party member, having voted Democrat for 30 years. I doubt Bishop Wester is an extremist. Mero needs to accept the fact that people can have different opinions than him. With 9% unemployment, 140,000 people here illegally, I don't think we need guest workers or have our legislature invite more people here illegally.

    If people don't like the action of our legislature, they can vote them out. That's the system Mr. Mero.

  • watchman Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 10:46 p.m.

    I would have liked to comment with some good reasoning, but apparently it is too 'extreme' and it gets censored, so i will have to settle with reading others.

  • M.Sanchez Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 14, 2011 10:44 p.m.

    I choose to follow the 2008 Republican Platform plank concerning our national security and immigration. I do not think that this is extreme right wing. It respects the contributions of Legal immigrants. It also condemns employers and businesses who participate in and condone identity theft, human smuggling for their cruel exploitation of human beings, along with the financial contribution of funds to organized criminal cartels and gangs.

    The Sutherland Institute would be wise to replace Mr. Mero to maintain its integrity.

  • SammyB Provo, UT
    April 14, 2011 10:28 p.m.

    Anyone who name calls is not someone I respect. Political correctness is nothing more than manipulation to herd the masses to where they want them to be. Many people are so afraid of being labeled that they will chose political views that keep them from scary labels.

    We need to have the courage of our convictions and ignore the immature name calling that scares the weak and the uninformed. How sad that what was considered mainstream American thought 30 years ago is now called extreme. We didn't move, they did.

  • Formerspud South Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2011 9:41 p.m.

    I agree with Paul Mero because fear is being used by people who think they are more righteous than the rest of us.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 14, 2011 9:32 p.m.

    The Sutherland Institute is going after "right wing extremists". That's funny, I thought they were right wing extremists.

  • The Reader Layton, UT
    April 14, 2011 9:20 p.m.

    I usually do not agree with Paul Mero, but his paper on extremism is excellent. Read his paper and then read the comments about his paper and you see exactly what he is talking about. He is so correct in his description of extremism in Utah. Like most zeleots Utah extreme right wing wouldn't believe Paul Mere if all patriots who wrote the constitution came to life and told them Mero was correct. Well done Paul Mero!!!

  • Brer Rabbit Spanish Fork, UT
    April 14, 2011 9:14 p.m.

    From the article, "Mero also wrote that during the legislative debate he never heard the "Deportation Caucus" pitch a plan to remove the more than 100,000 undocumented immigrants from Utah. Because, of course, that plan doesn't exist."

    Mr Mero, members of the Sutherland Institute, along with their financial supporters from the SL Chamber of Commerce know full well what Mr. Mortensen and the Utah Coalition on Illegal Immigration propose for the reduction of illegal aliens in Utah. It is, and always has been, "Attrition Through Enforcement." The continuing talking points about rounding up and deporting 110,000 illegal aliens in Utah from the Sutherland Institute is getting a little tiresome.

    The real driving force behind the support for illegal aliens in Utah, is cheap labor. In my opinion Mr. Mero's name calling is driven by the financial supporters(cheap labor employers) not by the majority of Utahns. The term "extremist" always depends on someone's point of view. I am sure that there are plenty of Utahns that would consider the Sutherland Institute "extremist."

  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    April 14, 2011 8:56 p.m.

    Mr Mero is spot on. The majority of Utah citizens are not "extremists" or "ultra right wing" or "left wing". HOWEVER, the extremists are active and as a state we have a system that allows these people to control the parties. Normal everyday Utahans as a general rule do not attend the mass meetings where delegates for the various parties are chosen. Extremists do attend in mass.
    This is true with both the Republican party and right wing extremists and Democrats with the left wing extremists.
    This system needs to be changed to allow everyday moderate Utahans of both parties to select representatives that actually represent the majority of citizens and not just the right and left fringes.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 8:52 p.m.

    Is possible that you have not heard of HB 469. This is sad, because if it is allowed to work, it may just solve most of all the immigration challenges we face. I believe it makes HB 116 obsolete.

    It throws out over 100 years of US case law about immigration, creates a way for Utahns to sponsor people from around the world, providing the immigrants are not in the US illegally.

    HB 469 claims that there is NOTHING in the US Constitution that grants the Federal Government power over Immigration and prior to the Case Law noted above, the States had that Power.

    It tells the Federal Government to protect our boarders, create rules for granting citizenship, but we can take care of immigration, thank you very much.

    The sponsoring principle of HB469 provides a limiting factor of how fast immigrants can come, makes sure they do not place a larger burden than we can handle, and is more like co-signing a friends car loan. It is the truly unique piece of the puzzle. With it, you don't need HB 116. Someone here illegally could find a sponsor, go home and come back with permission.

  • Legal? Saint George, UT
    April 14, 2011 8:45 p.m.

    We can't afford to take care of our own citizens. It's a no-brainer. Illegals know they are, well, uh....illegal. It's so simple. Illegal, no services. Illegal, no job. Illegal, go home and come in correctly.

  • mkSdd3 Ogden, UT
    April 14, 2011 7:32 p.m.

    Mr. Mero is pushing his agenda and ignoring facts, calling people names, and relying of false images to get people to side with him.

    It is not "extremism" to want people to obey the law. But that is what Mr. Mero would like to label me just because because I feel the law should be obeyed. And Yes I feel that the traffic laws should be obeyed (For all of you that are going to use that as an excuse not to obey immigration laws).

    To Quote Mr. Mero "Because, of course, that plan doesn't exist; because, of course, that plan would be inhumane and un-American; because, of course, it would involve a massive police-state effort, devastating families and costing millions of dollars."

    No police state necessary Mr Mero, You simply enforce current laws. That would include no jobs and no public services. The illegal immigrants to leave on their own accord.

    And when you say "the end justifies the means", you are never correct. The end never justifies the means. The methods used to get to the end are just as important as the end itself.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 7:00 p.m.

    So I guess its "extremist" to want Utahs jobs to go to ACTUAL LEGAL citizens?

    "Extremist" to just want existing immigration laws enforced?

    "Extremist" to want the state of Utah to quit spending 400 million per year on the care and upkeep of illegal foreign nationals?

    All of us "extremists" DO VOTE and we'll be watching the Utah legislature a little more next year when they're up for re-election.

  • Casca Orleans, IN
    April 14, 2011 6:49 p.m.

    Remember the TEA PARTY will kill any new amnesties, including so-called Immigration reform, Sanctuary States, Chain Migration, The dream act or any underhand way of passing any more AMNESTIES. Learn more about the astronomical costs and Statistics at NumbersUSA. It's your America; not the 20 million plus foreigners and not the politicians who cower under the bombardment of open border lunatics. Join a local TEA PARTY and become an activist in the tens of millions other others fighting for jobs, cutting obsolete government agencies, building the real border fence and station permanent National Guardsman. Make E-Verify mandatory to catch criminal businesses hiring illegal aliens and make it a enforced police policy for every jail to use Secure Communities to fingerprint and process all individuals to verify their immigration status.

    The country is in the worst predicament of owing Chinese and foreign investors over 14 Trillion dollars and now want more taxes from ordinary Americans. So if this is the case, why are we not removing economic illegal immigrants from our shores? Hundreds of billions would be saved and, then would start returning jobs to our own citizens and legitimate residents.