BYU roundup: Y. hoops team loses recruit to Hawaii

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  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 19, 2011 8:44 p.m.

    Whatever...yada yada...sounds like alittle sour grapes for 4 individuals that don't understand what the word commitment means...when you sign a contract, you live up to it. If can't live up to your commitment, then don't waste everyone's time, and your own embarrasement. Yes, it is a shame that your reputation gets placed in the limelight...that what you get as a college football celebrity...

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 17, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    To: Jet Chang
    6'4" Point Guard
    BYU Hawaii

    Anytime you want to initiate that request for release...BYU has a Unique opening for your skills with lots of potential to better market those critical abilities that we do generously appreciate and recognize. We have newly aquired hardware modeled just perfectly for someone of your caliber and have a continuing program of success and a great supervisory staff. The window is open. Looking forward to having you on the team.

    Cosmo Cougar

    Ok... back to reality.....I'm ready for some Football!!!

  • Cougar in Texas Houston, TX
    April 16, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    Hauns played his HS ball in Memphis. My good friend knows the family from his days in Tennessee and the family told him before Hauns' visit to BYU that he was already likely to sign with Hawaii. BYU was very late into the game getting a visit at the last minute.

    Hauns would be competing with Abouo and Rogers at BYU for playing time. He has family in Hawaii, he'll see immediate playing time there, and he loves the culture.

    Good luck to him and hope his college experience is everything he hopes it will be.

  • awsomeron1 Oahu, HI
    April 15, 2011 11:27 p.m.

    Lets see. BYU and Cold Weather, and the Honor Code vs UH a chance to play now, and the chance to lead a normal Adult life. No Brainer unless you are really after one of the finest educations in the world, or are Married and the Deal Includes Married Housing.

    BYU is a real School and you really have to attend class.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    April 15, 2011 11:57 a.m.

    Shouldn't fans of teams that have 15,000 seat facilities, actually show up to watch their own team play before mocking BYU for playing in front of 4-8000 seat gyms?

    What good is having 13,000 fans dressed up as empty seats every game EXCEPT when it's against BYU? Ironically, the 3-5,000 fans at the smaller arenas are twice as loud as the U when at capacity...just sayin.

    I understand the U8-U12 Jr. Jazz season-end tourney will be using the HC since the bldg will be vacant soon anyway.

  • cougar76 Provo, UT
    April 15, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    hedgehog, kiboo and other trolls don't realize that their team wanted this guy, too. Apparently the propect of playing in the conference-of-champions for the league's last place team was enough to convince him that there was no need to even visit the hill. Unless I was an NBA prospect, I might pick living and playing in Hawaii over Provo, too.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    April 15, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    As long as we don't lose recruits to U, I'm good.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    April 15, 2011 6:59 a.m.

    As neither Ute fan or a BYU fan but a flatlander we do thank the Utes for their transfer to come back here to the plains to play some basketball and I do think the LDS RM chose to play in arenas that hold more than 3-6000 fans where he would have to play half his games if he signed with the Y.

  • FaifeauSam Lehi, UT
    April 15, 2011 6:39 a.m.

    Good point, Everest. With Ken Wagner and the international players at BYU-H, it would be a good fit.

    On my other comment: is this kid from Northern Colorado or from Western (whatever) in Nebraska. The story and the picture don't line up and it's very confusing.

    Go BYU and Hawaii. Wish I had gone to Hawai'i for four years of sun and surf and a good education.

  • nottyou Riverton, UT
    April 15, 2011 6:17 a.m.

    It would be similar BIG news if the Utes kept a player.

  • CalGTR Merrimack, NH
    April 15, 2011 5:36 a.m.

    There's another major, very simple reason why Rose lost this recruit to Hawaii, in addition to the other reasons already mentioned. Rose only made the offer very recently, incredibly late in the recruiting process (only made possible because of Anderson's decision to hang them up). I'm sure Hawaii and the other schools that offered have been pouring out their love to the young man for months now, and by doing so had the inside track. Also, he had to know that his chances of getting significant playing time at BYU would be minimal, with all of the good wing talent already on the roster or incoming (although I'm sure Rose thought he would be able to contribute). Sounds like the young man made a wise, carefully thought out decision, and I wish him very well. And LOL at anyone seriously claiming that playing 8 away games at smaller WCC gyms would somehow be a turn-off to someone that ended up signing with a WAC/Big West team (Hawaii moving to Big West in everything but football in 2012).

  • Everest American Fork, UT
    April 14, 2011 10:39 p.m.

    Why doesn't he just go to BYU-Hawaii?

  • DocSarvis Logan, UT
    April 14, 2011 9:57 p.m.

    Never thought I'd see the day when an LDS RM chose Hawaii over BYU. Hawaii, a WAC team heading to the Big West for basketball. BYU, the flagship school of the LDS church.

  • joecoog North Las Vegas, NV
    April 14, 2011 9:51 p.m.

    I would like for you to look at the first 2 comments. Both by ute fans obsessed with byu. If this were a ute board and cougar fans got on and said silly comments that dont make any sense would you not comment about byu? I know you would because you are on a byu board commenting on how obsessed we are with utah even though the comments are directed at the utes that already commented. You would have had a valid point if those ute comments were not there and byu was just bashing utah unprovoked but that is not the case. Try to be more unbiased next time.

  • joecoog North Las Vegas, NV
    April 14, 2011 9:44 p.m.

    You guys are all asking sarcastically how could this kid pass up on the cougars while knowing that this same kid passed up on the utes and the pac 12. Many cougar fans have already given reasonable answears as to why (family lives in hawaii, wants to start, heck, its hawaii) but when a cougar fan ask how this kid could pass up on the utes and the pac 12 i dont hear anything. I think this says a lot about our different fan bases. Cougar fans are knowledgable and not scared of a debate but ute fans, well, they cant debate because they know they are wrong and have no facts to stand on. I know one of you is going to say: FACT pac 12 > wcc. But then why did this guy pass up on the pac 12 to play in whatever conference hawaii will be in next year? Answear the same question that cougar fans are not scared of answearing instead of ignoring the question and hiding.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    April 14, 2011 9:09 p.m.

    He went to Hawaii to be close to his family so thats understandable. What I dont understand though is these ute trolls who come on here and crow about BYU not getting a recruit. Earth to ute fans he was also on utah's radar and he didnt give them the time of day LOL! Also, lets not forget how many players have left the utah program over the last two years. BYU still has plenty of recruits and talent coming in so losing one isnt going to hurt them a great deal.

  • TexasAggie Houston, Texas
    April 14, 2011 7:48 p.m.

    @bug off: who's the player down here? Would like to know so I can call Utah state ;)

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    April 14, 2011 7:15 p.m.

    I Still Can't Say It

    It looks like you're grasping at straws.

    Utah's conference affiliation was so completely meaningless to a quality player that he didn't even bother wasting his time visiting U.

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    April 14, 2011 6:40 p.m.

    Wow, imagine that, a quality player declined the team in Provo despite its run in the NCAA tourney. I wonder why...maybe because he didn't want to play in the high-school gyms of the WCC, among several other reasons.

    It looks like Mr. Robinson was right after all. Basketball in the WCC is now an afterthought.

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 6:21 p.m.

    Plus, he can surf!

  • aggieblue Saint George, UT
    April 14, 2011 6:12 p.m.


    Right on, Gib Arnold is the head coach at Hawaii, return missionary, played for Dave at Dixie College, attended Pine View High in St. George. Perhaps this young man chose the life style, personnel and of course family and Hawaii. How many of you would not choose Hawaii to live in for the next two years. He is a sophomore, I understand, spent two years at the JC and two years left.

    I wish him well and know that he will be happy and be able to play and contribute right away. Look at the program in Hawaii, Gib said that he needed to get some experience to go with his young team. He is a good man and I am sure knew how to recruit this player.

    The Y will be fine in basketball as will my aggies, just have to do what the Y did and get through that first round. Some have to worry about even making it to the dance. Who?

  • TruthBTold SLC, UT
    April 14, 2011 5:34 p.m.

    You're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong... ALL of you UTAH fans are wrong as to why Hauns chose Hawaii over BYU (and Utah NEVER had a chance).

    I told you in the previous article blog that Hauns has family in Hawaii--that's where his mother is from. What I did not mention is that the coaching staff is primarily LDS, which is a huge draw, and he LOVES the culture there. Hawaii also has it's obvious draws, but Hauns is not looking for a Pro Basketball career, he wants an opportunity to start, as well receive an excellent education--and he can get all of that at Hawaii too.

    BYU would certainly have benefitted from Hauns' presence, but I'm confident he made the right choice for him. Only time will tell--we support you 100% Hauns!

  • bobosmom small town, Nebraska
    April 14, 2011 4:52 p.m.

    Who could blame the dude for wanting to go to Hawaii if he has relatives there. The winters are brutal back here in Nebraska and maybe he wants to go where it is warmer. If I had the chance Id probably do the same thing.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    April 14, 2011 4:40 p.m.

    What a crock,

    Ute fans get all bent out of shape because BYU fans a ripping on them?

    Ute fans: Why are you even on this article? Why do you post here? What draws you to BYU articles like a moth to a flame? It's like you can't stay away. Then you get your tighties all bunched up because people knock your school.

    I am completely apathetic about the Utes (Although I cheer for them when they are on the big stage), but I have never read a single article about them, nor have a I ever posted on their articles. I don't care. I don't care where they go now or what they do, ever!

    I do care however, when they come to an article about BYU and talk smack. I won't put up with that.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 14, 2011 4:21 p.m.


    "Ouch, that's gotta sting."

    ...when a sought-after recruit won't give the Utes the time of day.

    So much for the mighty PAC 12 Utes having flocks of recruits beating down their door.

  • Bear Somewhere, UT
    April 14, 2011 4:10 p.m.


    "First Rose then Anderson and now this."

    So are you saying that signing Dave Rose to extension was a bad thing? I think the program will survive with this recruit going to Hawaii and Anderson moving on. You do realize that he didn't even give your mighty Utes the time of day with their offer.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    April 14, 2011 4:08 p.m.

    I love Hawaii, too! But not the u!

  • CG Orem, UT
    April 14, 2011 4:03 p.m.

    Mormon Ute

    In truth, the Utah basketball team itself has been brutal.

    If things don't pick up soon, Dr. Hill may have to start renting out the HC for conventions just to make a buck when the Red Rocks aren't using it.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 14, 2011 3:59 p.m.

    And BYU fans are having a little fun back. Considering the brutal verbal assaults on our football team from last year and the continuous trolling about Jimmer and our very successful basketball team and the constant assualts on our coaches etc. etc. Wouldn't it be nice if the smack was held until the rivalry game was played, then there was a few days of friendly smack and it was over until next year? Just like Pleasantville

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    April 14, 2011 3:47 p.m.

    We Ute fans are just having a little fun, since the BYU fans have been so brutal about our basketball team.

  • Anne26 West Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    Wow, I thought this article was about BYU basketball. From what I can see, most of the posts are about the University of Utah and are written by BYU fans. A bit obsessed are we?

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    April 14, 2011 3:08 p.m.

    @ hedgehog

    How are utes doing in basketball? LOL! Looks like all the rats are jumping off a sinking ship there still might be enough time for a hedgehog to find his way off too. LOL

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    April 14, 2011 3:03 p.m.

    The sky is falling, the sky is falling...

    Well, at least there's the kid from UCLA that's coming over, and the kid from south carolina. Oh well, could be worse...could be the U.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    April 14, 2011 3:03 p.m.

    There is a missionary down here in Pearland who played for Stanford that BYU needs to look at. Stanford pulled his scholarship when he went on a mission.

  • stgjazzfan Saint George, UT
    April 14, 2011 3:03 p.m.


    This season, Brereton has received more than 22 scholarship offers, and has taken official recruiting trips to BYU, Hawaii and Tulane. The University of Utah and Santa Clara have offered official visits as well.

    This must hurt, he didn't even give the U a visit.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    April 14, 2011 2:51 p.m.

    Maybe there really is a crack in the armor. And I was only kidding when I said that about Anderson leaving. His reason was perfectly understandable, but this doesn't make sense.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    April 14, 2011 2:48 p.m.


    Yep the dominos are falling. He didn't come to the Y and Anderson left.

    The Y is just loosing everything! Gosh, what will we do? It's Shawn Bradley all over again!

    Please, Please! Tell us what's next. I so look forward to insight and wisdom.

  • PGVikingDad Pleasant Grove, UT
    April 14, 2011 2:47 p.m.

    I'm a Cougar fan, and even I can't blame a 20-year-old kid for taking the opportunity to spend four years in paradise on someone else's dime. It's always been a mystery to me why Hawaii can't pull in better talent with all they have to offer.

  • factcheck Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 2:41 p.m.

    Hedgehog...dude has relatives in Hawaii, they are playing in China which was another factor in deciding on Hawaii. Oh yeah... unlike BYU, at Hawaii, he can play right away.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    April 14, 2011 2:24 p.m.

    What's next hedgehog? I'll tell about another u player leaving and many HS/JC players not even considering going to the u. Many at least consider BYU along with many big and small time schools. The u can't even say that this year or for the coming several years.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 14, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    This will be called the "WCC effect" going forward.

    First Rose then Anderson and now this.

    Even a once in 30 year run and a POY could't stop the dominos from falling.

    Big question; what's next?

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 14, 2011 1:43 p.m.

    You can't lose something you never had.

    On the other hand if you want a perfect example of losing 'something' just look to the next program north... bazinga!

    'Soul crushing' and 'deliciously ironic' at the same time, eh Utesy trolls?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 1:41 p.m.

    Go Hawaii

  • Honor Code Denver, Colorado
    April 14, 2011 1:35 p.m.

    Let's see.....a recruit is offered to play WCC or WAC......hmmmm I'd go with the WAC!!!

    Another sign of being kicked to the curb by the football team!!

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 14, 2011 1:20 p.m.

    Kiboo, you're saying going to the WAC is better than the WCC? The WAC has USU, who can't win in the postseason ever, and the WCC can get a few teams in the dance depending on the year and has a nice contract with ESPN. He went to Hawai'i for Hawai'i probably, not for the WeAC.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    April 14, 2011 1:19 p.m.

    gotta love these ute trolls always trying to poke holes in the Mighty Cougar basketball program. Ouch - it stings.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    April 14, 2011 1:13 p.m.

    His Mom is from Hawaii, he has family there.

    You're actually making causation arguments and stating it's because of the WCC?

    He's going to Hawaii, which will now be playing in the Big West, try again.

    BYU lost this recruit, not unusual. At least their best players didn't leave the team. Utah.

    Go Wazzu-Utes

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 1:04 p.m.

    Good luck to him. At lest he didn't sign and then leave after he got to know the program, as in the utes ongoing debacle.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 14, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    Doesn't sting nearly as bad as having your top three players leave the team and having an average of 3-4 players leave every year.

    BYU will be fine without another 6'6" skinny guy. They are loaded at center even with Anderson leaving, They are loaded at the 4, they have Rogers, Abouo at the 3 and they have 4-5 guards on next years team.

    How is your team doing on their recruiting?

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    April 14, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    Give it a rest, people. Maybe the kid just wanted to go where the winters aren't so cold!!

  • Kiboo West Jordan, Utah
    April 14, 2011 12:53 p.m.

    I know the answer - WCC.

  • sports-junkie West Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2011 12:50 p.m.

    lol yes hedgehog, that does sting. But not nearly as bad as being a Runnin' Ute fan must sting.

    Who transferred this week? Ouch.

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    April 14, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    How can this be? Losing a recruit to Hawaii after your best season in 30 years!!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 14, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    Moutainman 4/13/11 "
    "As a returned missionary from Tiawan, he speaks Mandarin Chinese. Maybe one of the most difficult languages in the world, which proves he is intelligent! Therefore he will fit in very well at BYU!"

    Ouch, that's gotta sting.