2nd man pleads guilty in jump from LDS Church Office Building

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  • Jeff S Sandy, UT
    April 13, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    Thank you Rifleman. You bring up an excellent point.

    The wife should be at home with her husband.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 12, 2011 4:51 p.m.

    Re: Jeff S | 12:28 p.m. April 12, 2011

    That's a sad comment. I watched a woman quietly crying in church one Sunday because her husband wasn't attending.

    People get divorced and have to schedule their turn to be with their children because they are too selfish to consider the feelings and needs of a spouse.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 12, 2011 1:28 p.m.

    LeFiffre | 1:17 a.m.

    Rifleman beat me to it... The point isn't whether you can get hurt or not. The point is... it's ILLEGAL. And it's Illegal for a reason (the list).

    My problem is people who do it and then expect no consequences... or if there are legal charges... just say, "THEY blew it out of proportion", like nothing should happen to them.

    All they got was a small fine and probation! I don't know how much less punishment they could give to people who said they didn't do it... when there was clear video evidence that they did. Maybe if they man-up and admitted it, and didn't plead innocent and make it into an big court case... it could have been dropped. But not after they claim innocence and fight it.

    Skiing out of bounds is illegal too... for the same reason (long list of deaths). It's not only dangerous for out of bounds skiers but also other people who get caught in the avalanche they cause.

    If you engage in extreme sports... make sure they are legal first. And be ready for the consequences.

  • Jeff S Sandy, UT
    April 12, 2011 12:28 p.m.

    This gives me an idea.

    If I jump off the roof of my ward house do you think I would be forbidden to ever go back?

    I wouldn't have to come up with an excuse each week to give my wife why I can't go.


  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 12, 2011 6:43 a.m.

    Re: LeFiffre | 1:17 a.m. April 12, 2011

    When we get in our cars, hike mountain trails, cross the street downtown, or ride bicycles we are engaged in legal activities, and yes, those legal activities can result in accidents and deaths.

    When we engage in illegal activities we should be prepared to accept the consequences of our actions. It doesn't matter who breaks the law and who his grandfather is. Those who break our laws shouldn't be surprised when they are required to pay the price for their actions.

    Some may view Main Street Plaza as a "joint" but the vast majority of us view it as a peaceful beautiful garden.

  • LeFiffre Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2011 1:17 a.m.

    2 Bits:

    You're right. Things go wrong and people die BASE jumping.

    Pages and pages of people who die when things go unexpectedly wrong...which sounds like reading the Sunday paper. Pages and pages' worth.

    Things also go wrong when we get in our cars, hike mountain trails, cross the street downtown, or ride bicycles. The vehicle-on-bicycle fatalities in Utah are astonishing -- on average, one a week. Yes, innocent bicyclists. Yikes! We can't tell bicyclists, pedestrians, hikers, dog owners, or motorists, "don't ever do this because we don't want to clean up your corpse."

    I don't believe in inviting tragedy, but neither do I believe that life can be lived without risk. Getting to work and jumping off buildings aren't the same, granted. But back-country skiing, technical climbing, or taking a drive up Parley's on a beautiful Sunday morning aren't necessary, either. We weigh our chances and do what we need to feel alive...this time, every time, and hope we don't become statistics. If you want to increase public safety, statistically, you'll save more lives by eliminating dry cleaning bags than BASE jumpers.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 11, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    Before anybody says that there is no harm in this... or that it was all just blown out of proportion... have you ever had to clean up after one of these that went wrong? It happens. People DIE doing this, every year.

    No one was hurt... THIS TIME. But people have died before. And not only jumpers. Innocent people on the ground who were just walking to work.

    Google "Base Fatality List"....
    There are PAGES AND PAGES of people who have died when things went unexpectedly wrong.

  • Dektol Powell, OH
    April 11, 2011 2:51 p.m.

    Why punish guys who found an actual productive use for the big eyesore?

  • LeFiffre Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    The original charges were excessive, the final plea acceptable, and the whole thing blown out of proportion.

    It happened before and probably will again. No one was hurt and, with all due respect to my faith, it was probably the most exciting event that joint's seen in decades. The real news is that Hartman Rector, Jr's grandson was in on it. If you ask me, there's not a guy in the world who wouldn't be secretly proud that his namesake had the chutzpah to do this.

    Lighten up guys and ask to watch the video they shot -- it'll make your tummy tingle.