Christian churches, including the Latter-day Saints, share many hymns

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  • brokenclay Scottsdale, AZ
    April 11, 2011 11:16 a.m.

    "[I]t is only logical to conclude that if Baptist believers . . . were 'Christians,' then also are the LDS or Mormon believers."

    So if you sing the same songs as a Christian, it makes you a Christian, whether you're a Muslim, atheist, or Jehovah's Witness? This is a blatant non sequitur.

    This phenomenon has been a great source of annoyance for me. Our churches are called abominable corruptions, the daughters of a harlot, etc., and yet the LDS feel most welcome to hijack our music, composed by some of our greatest men and women of faith, who believed in a God and salvation completely different from that of Mormonism. This seems to me to be a blatant double standard.

    The doxology is explicitly Trinitarian, a doctrine for which Mormons harangue us for in these news comments weekly. "A Mighty Fortress" was written by Luther, who taught forensic justification, a doctrine which Mormons eschew. If we are Satan's church, then why are you allowing us to teach you spiritually? If we are an abomination, we do not have the Holy Spirit and thus cannot spiritually teach.

    Conversely, this explains why Christians do not sing LDS composed hymns.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    April 11, 2011 7:18 a.m.

    I attended a RLDS church on my mission now Community of Christ and opening song was Spirit of God. That song was sung in the ward I was serving in as well that afternoon. Probably one of the few songs we share with them in there hymnbook. I don't think amazing graze will ever make it in the LDS hymnbook though it is sung in LDS funerals at times. Don't know what common hymns we have with the catholics.

  • attentive Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2011 11:52 p.m.

    If you check any hymnal, you will find that regardless of denomination, a lot of the tunes were "borrowed" from anthems of other countries - mostly Great Britain. The words were changes and they became well-known hymns.

  • seeingblind Spanish Fork, UT
    April 10, 2011 7:51 p.m.

    Gentile, I agree, but look at the title of the article: "Christian churches, including" as the Mormons try to include themselves with Christians. They sing "Amazing grace! How sweet the sound That saved a wretch like me! I once was lost, but now am found; Was blind, but now I see.'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace my fears relieved; How precious did that grace appear." But when were they ever "a wretch" and what do they know about being hopelessly lost in sin and facing damnation and eternal torment in the lake of fire, being hopeless and without hope, confused about the Holy Bible and blind to the Gospel message? I mean they have it in Mosiah 27: 25 - 29, but who of them has experienced it? Who of them knows Christ purchased them with His own blood so that they no longer belong to themselves, and that He did while they were yet IN their sins and enemies with God? We are helpless and cannot find God: rather we are found by God and He redeems us buying us out of our sins. Who of them knows this: that it is pure GRACE?

  • seeingblind Spanish Fork, UT
    April 10, 2011 6:03 p.m.

    Gentile, I'm with you. Salvation by grace alone is foreign to the whole of the Mormon Church's doctrine as is total depravity from the moment a child is conceived. However what they are trying to deceptively accomplish is to be seen as "Christian" while reserving the right to criticize the Christian churches as doctrinally apostate.

    Above Donn, from Layton quotes: "Amazing grace! How sweet the sound That saved a wretch like me! I once was lost, but now am found; Was blind, but now I see.'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace my fears relieved; How precious did that grace appear."

    But do Mormons know what it means to be "lost?" I mean lost in sins and knowing they're on the high road to eternal hell fire damnation without hope and clueless about the Holy Bible and its saving Redeemer? I mean the Redeemer pays His own blood as the purchase price for their souls and owns them? Found by Jesus, not by their own selves.

    Mormon reader, when were you a wretch? Don't you know you were born a wretch? From conception, you, as all men, must be born again.

  • Gentile brookings, SD
    April 10, 2011 1:23 p.m.

    Intriguing that one thinks one is a Christian because one sings their songs. Intriguing. The words to those hymns do not fit Mormonism. Sorry to be the honest broker.

  • Chickenchaser Centralia, WA
    April 10, 2011 10:33 a.m.

    Conspiracy girl. I went the other way and discovered the roots of hundreds of songs that predate the church by hundreds of years. Having been the stake music guru I can relate to Patrick Henry. Someone should save the wards a few dollars and publish the old fashion paperbacks with just the songs that seem so popular. I currently tinker and play from four different books. It is unfortunate that some protestant church's do not have I Believe in Christ, Sweet is the Peace the Gospel Brings, I Am a Child of God, and my Baptist spouse loves Come Come Ye Saints which of course originated in England.

    Anyone with a piano can learn how to play the hymns in the simplified hymn book. Purchase one with the metal comb binding.

  • Unabiller Excelsior, MN
    April 10, 2011 10:32 a.m.

    The March 7, 2011 issue of Christianity Today has a short article on the most enduring hymns in Protestant hymnals. They cite 28 hymnals from six Protestant denominations:
    Anglican (Episcopal)
    American Baptist
    Evangelical Lutheran Church in AMerica
    United Methodist

    They are counting only those hymnals published since 1900. They count 27 hymns.

    Of interest to us, at least to me, is the fact that of those 27 hymns, 11 are found in the current LDS hymnal. There are 13 hymns found in all 28 hymnals, of which 5 are found in the LDS hymnal. Of the nine hymns found in 27 of the 28 hymnals, 4 are found in the LDS hymnal.

    The Hymns That Keep on Going
    The 27 worship songs that have made the hymnal cut time and again.
    Robert T. Coote | posted 3/07/2011 10:02AM
    It can be found online.

  • donn layton, Ut
    April 10, 2011 9:19 a.m.

    The top three Christian Hymns:
    #1. Amazing grace! How sweet the sound That saved a wretch like me! I once was lost, but now am found; Was blind, but now I see.'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace my fears relieved; How precious did that grace appear.
    #2. Ave Maria.
    #3. Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty! Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee; Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty! God in three Persons, blessèd Trinity!

  • Patrick Henry West Jordan, UT
    April 10, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    Speaking of the Hymns: Is is just me or does anyone else feel like local wards in Utah do a great job at shunning most of the hymns and are in fact just singing a select few over and over again? I personally would like to allow more of the lesser known Hymns the opportunity to see some sunlight and actually be sung.

  • RR_Xing San Diego, CA
    April 10, 2011 8:23 a.m.

    You won't find these in the index, but don't forget the hymns that share the same tune or even the same chorus (Truth Reflects Upon our Senses/Life is Like a Mountain Railroad, for instance).

  • Brother Dave Livermore, CA
    April 10, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    This was a Good Comparison between the two Christian bodies of Believers.
    The Hymns are a good reflection of feelings about our relationship to the Lord.

    It's Good to look at All the things that followers of Jesus have In Common
    rather than to focus on the differences, which is so commonly done.

    Praise the Lord Jesus!! Easter is only two weeks away....

  • conspiracygirl Bremerton, WA
    April 10, 2011 7:03 a.m.

    When I was in my early teens one of the rebellious things my friends and I would do at church was to sometimes skip Sunday School and go "spy" on the church service across the street, which was Baptist. We just wanted to see how weird it was. I'll always remember how surprised I was to discover them singing the same hymns we sang! :-)