House committee passes 3 anti-abortion bills

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  • county mom Monroe, UT
    March 2, 2011 5:28 p.m.

    Oh my Gosh "Pagan" I am in agreement with you!

    Sexual education is best taught at home with loving parents in open discussions.
    The next best thing is in school, but only if abstinence and birth control are taught at the same time. Children need to be taught consiquences, to actions. Everything we do in this life leaves a mark on us, hopefully most of those actions will leave good memories. Few regrets. Children need to learn this lesson.

  • Furry1993 Somewhere in Utah, UT
    March 2, 2011 2:37 p.m.

    To lost in DC | 12:49 p.m. March 2, 2011

    That clinic in Philly was indeed egregious, and I have no problems with inspections of medical clinics here in Utah (in fact, I think they should all be inspected on a regular but random basis). I just don't think that one form of clinic should be treated any differently from another since I see no reason to think one type of clinic is more or less likely to have problems than another type of clinic. Inspect them all, and treat them all the same. Burden them equally. That is the fair and equitable way to handle the issue.

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    March 2, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    "Melissa Bird, executive director of Planned Parenthood of Utah, said the requirements under the bill were "onerous and expensive" and injecting politics into health care."

    Abortion is only health care if you aren't a human fetus.

    By accepting public funds they are inviting politics into their organization.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    March 2, 2011 12:49 p.m.


    The most egregious example of unsafe conditions was at a poorly supervised abortion mill in Philly, indicating the need for better supervision of abortion mills. Since we don't have examples of such horrendous conditions at most other health care facilities, no they wouldn't need as close supervision. Besides, abortions are very lucrative procedures, and where the profit incentive is so high there (much higher than at most other clinics), there is a greater tendency to let safety slide if it affects the bottom line at abortion mills.

  • Furry1993 Somewhere in Utah, UT
    March 2, 2011 11:35 a.m.

    To lost in DC | 8:35 a.m. March 2, 2011

    Malpractice, and unsanitary conditions, can (and do) happen anywhere. Or are you saying that only abortion providers should have to keep their establishments clean and safe?

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    March 2, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    "HB354, which would exempt the state from having to offer insurance plans under the federal health care law that pay for elective abortions."

    This would not be necessary had BO not lied when he said Obamacare would not require public funds for abortions.

    I guess the local instacare in Philadelphia presented an equal threat to women's health as the unchecked abortion mill there that killed numerous women along with their babies.

    Can't you see the diferrence between paying for healthcare and the healthcare itself?

    who is going to challenge in court a law that requires abortion mills be cleanly and the doctors properly licensed?

    These bills don't try to outlaw abortion - why do you rant about taking away a woman's "right" to have her unborn child destroyed?

  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    March 1, 2011 5:08 p.m.

    I'm glad I'm not a woman. I'd hate to have someone that doesn't have any right to tell me what to do with my body regulating me.
    We as parents need to be the regulators and teachers. I'd love to have Wimmer work on State problems like Education, Roads and many, many more.
    Our Representatives need to attend to business and get this session over with.
    We seriously need term limits.

  • Globetrecker Arlington, va
    March 1, 2011 4:44 p.m.

    I agree with the other posters about the responsibility to educate their children on these matters. Planned un-Parenthood is quite a scam in and of itself (pressuring the abortion option instead of adoption is the norm). I am frankly quite disgusted that they even exist and wish that the good services they provide were more pronounced rather than an abortion mill.

    Rep. Wimmer should focus on prevention and education. For the majority of woman, the choice to have unprotected sex and control the consequences of being stupid in the first place will prevent unwanted pregnancy. Don't have sex if you're going to be so cavalier with creating life. If a woman has the right to make decisions about her own body, then they should be intelligent enough to know their body and when the can get pregnant and how to avoid it. We're not talking about rape or incest (which is not the majority of these cases). We're talking about preventing and educating these girls before it happens, not after so the abortionists can get Federal money (more than if they were to push for adoptions).

  • GWB West Jordan, UT
    March 1, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    Why, in this time of budget problems and decreased revenues, would our legislature go out of their way to pass bills that may end up in court and consume precious tax dollars?

    Where are the TEA partiers who want their government to opperate efficiently and lower their taxes, when bills like this are being debated?

    Stop wasting money and let the other states like South Dakota fight these battles with their limited resources rather than mine!!!

  • zbdude Layton, Utah
    March 1, 2011 2:42 p.m.

    Planned Parenthood receives over $320 Million from taxpayers each year. The tax-exempt "non-profit" netted $100 Million in net income last year including revenue of over $120 Million directly from performing over 305,000 abortions. Increased inspections are absolutely warranted to an organization that receives this kind of funding from taxpayers.

    I would recommend more than just cleanliness inspections.
    Opinions on abortions being set aside, Planned Parenthood's repeated behavior to cover up sexual abuse of young girls and victims of sex trafficking is abominable. They are using federal funding to violate federal laws, specifically laws to protect children from sexual predators.

    I am not saying that Planned Parenthood should be shut down, but let them create their own funding. Taxpayer dollars should not be given to any organization that repeatedly and intentionally breaks the federal laws.

    Planned Parenthood DOES provide some really good services for women, but that doesn't negate their illegal actions. When wrongs are committed against children (specifically the covering up of sexual abuse against young girls) there really isn't much redemption.

  • cymrul West Valley City, UT
    March 1, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    So we have elected officials who are pushing bills through like an official state gun and a law to protect Utah women against something that ISN'T a problem? How do they keep getting re-elected?? Isn't there bigger issues they could be addressing like education? Maybe unemployment? Just a thought.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    March 1, 2011 1:41 p.m.

    I agree with majority of the post's here. Keeping the clinics sanitary? Of course.

    We wouldn't want people to use metal coat hangers to preform abortions in alleyways...

    such was the case before abortion became legal in America in 1973.

    38 years later, many try to undermine the ability to preform abortion, though it is perfectly legal.

    I most agree with resident though. To prevent unwanted abortions, one simply needs to focus on the PREVENTION of unwated pregnancy.

    I would say that abstinance, is not working.

    "Study Casts Doubt on Abstinence-Only Programs, (Washington Post 4/14/07): A long-awaited national study has concluded that abstinence-only sex education, a cornerstone of the Bush administration's social agenda, does not keep teenagers from having sex. Neither does it increase or decrease the likelihood that if they do have sex, they will use a condom."

    Also to support my claim? Let's just look a pop culture...

    Bristol Palin.

    Educate. Your. Children.

    Keeping children ignorant does NOT prevent them making mistakes. Placing blame ON said children for making mistakes, when you work to keep them ignorant...

    is, to me, the fault of the parent.

  • sandyresident Sandy, UT
    March 1, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    While I would hope my daughters would never be faced with the decision of abortion, I wish Rep. Wimmer would spend his enegy focusing on the need for prevention. The Republicans complain about the high costs of the services provided to the poor through Medicaid. This bill can and will continue to create people and especially children needing these services. These types of bills are just to keep his name out there. I hope that the medical community stands up and says enough already.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    March 1, 2011 12:11 p.m.

    Wait, I thought it was the evil Democrats who wanted Government to run/oversee the health care system?

    The hypocrisy of the Republican party has no end. Talk a big game about how government should stay out of Americans lives, yet pick and choose their special interests where the Government should have an even bigger role?

  • Furry1993 Somewhere in Utah, UT
    March 1, 2011 12:06 p.m.

    Inspections? Certainly, as along as every other clinic or hospital in Utah is equally inspected. Additional monetary charges? Certainly, as long as every other clinic or hospital in Utah is equally burdened.

    If the issue is health as opposed to political pandering, treat (and burden) all health-related facilities the same. If the issue is political pandering as opposed to health, then don't burden any of them any further.

  • three11stu Saratoga Springs, UT
    March 1, 2011 11:51 a.m.

    I am fine with the inspections, and needing to get licensed. However, there should not be any ADDITIONAL monetary items because the majority of people do not morally agree with abortions. They are legal in the United States, and should be covered the same as other elective procedures that anybody else can do.

  • lket Bluffdale, UT
    March 1, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    and he is for smaller government and will need more public workers to do this. it just gets bigger.