BYU roundup: Cougars a No. 1 seed in projected bracket

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  • stokethefire The Planet, Earth
    March 1, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    At least in basketball the issue of who is the best gets settled on the court and not in the computer.

  • Kimball Bakersfield, CA
    March 1, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    What are the names of the other BYU basketball players? I am happy for BYU, but hope we can develop more depth over time rather than hanging hope on a Danny Ainge or Jimmer to step up.

  • TruthHurts American Fork, UT
    March 1, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    Solomon, you are on to something about Nil's comments, however your BYU puffery is just that. In your mind, you have puffed up JFU (Jimmer Fredette Univ). One can safely say that Jimmer is the one and only reason the Cougs are where they are. I don't have a problem with that at all, and you can argue all you want about what would or would not have happened "if" the Cougs were in another conference. Nobody knows. Set up all the scenarios you wish, it all comes down to wins and losses, vs every other teams wins and losses.
    I do know one thing, and that is regardless of what seeding JFU gets in the tourney, the whole team needs to come out and play, because you get them deep into the tourney, they are going to have to rely on more than just a flash in the pan. And by the way, that said flash in the pan will only amount to a mediocre NBA role player. At best he'll be a late 1st rounder, used primarily as a gap player to get some quick points. Terrible defense only gets him limited opportunity.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Feb. 28, 2011 10:15 p.m.


    "You play in a weak conference."

    If toughness defines greatness, then BYU fits the Bill.

    Boston Celtics great Bill Russell once said, Concentration and mental toughness are the margins of victory.

    Nowhere was that more apparent than during the BYU-San Diego State game on Saturday, as discussed in an article on PlanetBYU.

  • BYR Woods Cross, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 10:02 p.m.

    19th-century British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (18041881): "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

    And that is the problem with polls, RPI rankings etc. With the current scheduling system, it is impossible to truly compare how well BYU or SDSU would do in the ACC or the BE. Using stats to justify ones opinion is pointless because we do not KNOW if BYU or SDSU would do in those confernces.

    After the second round of the tournament, anything can happen. St. John's and K-State scare me, they are hot right now.

    But it will be fun, eh?

  • Y4LYFE Lubbock, TX
    Feb. 28, 2011 6:44 p.m.

    I love it. BYUs baseball team visited our chapel on sunday, but they got fans coming up asking what they thought of the Jimmered game...I made sure to congratulate them for beating Tech though.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 6:20 p.m.

    It's just a bit early to start speculating about the brackets. BYU should enjoy the attention but not forget to make their best statement on the floor.

    As to those who are already bashing their schedule and the MWC, we'll see how it all turns out. Maybe you'll enjoy a serving of "crow" and maybe not. I, for one, prefer to see the actual games, not what a cantankerous or clever argument might be as to who is good and who is not. And it can change on any given night. Remember New Mexico? Remember San Diego State twice? Consistency is the mark of a champion, not the league they play in, and only three teams in the country currently have only 2 losses.

    Just watch the tournament and enjoy March Madness. We should all live long enough to see the same type of tournament for college football, where the championship is decided on the field, not in someone's mind or computer.

  • goodDr. sandy, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 6:12 p.m.

    Nil, Didn't arsenal lose this last week? You should lose the red goggles. Barely a winning record?! Probably more than two losses, but please you think they would have lost 15 games thus far? Just having to play in Provo would get them 19 or 20 wins. You are the eternal pessimist. Go watch your boys lose on the pitch.

  • JNA Layton, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 6:09 p.m.

    I could not agree more with Duh. Lets worry about the Lobos and the Cowboys. There's alot of basketball left to be played. It's great we have earned some respect, lets keep EARNING it.

  • Solomon the Wise Alpine, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 5:57 p.m.

    nil to the nil

    "You play in a weak conference."

    The MWC is 4th in RPI, ahead of the ACC, SEC, AND PAC 10.

    Why don't you try making an argument using real facts instead of your made up hyperbole?

    Trying to guess what any team's record would be if they played in a different conference is an exercise in futility.

    What do you think Pittsburgh's record would be if they'd played in the MWC?

    Do you honestly think the Panthers would have gone undefeated playing BYU, SDSU, UNLV, CSU and NM home-and-home?

    BYU will likely finish with only ONE loss in MWC play.

    Would Pittsburgh have done any better than that?

    Give it a rest nil. Making wild guesses about the outcome of unplayed games and then spinning that as some sort of "proof" of your own biased opinions, proves NOTHING!

    The truth is, without knowing the matchups, you don't have a clue how far BYU might advance in the tournament.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Feb. 28, 2011 5:48 p.m.

    BYU has the UNM game to consider first and foremost, then Wyoming. Gratefully, both games are at home.

    Bracketology is all talk. We are two weeks ago from selection sunday and the committe to pair the actual seedings. What Joe Luinardi thinks is pure speculation and draws alot of attention and more talk. We have two more weeks of good basketball to complete before any talk of tourament is relevant.

    Go Cougars. Win some more.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Feb. 28, 2011 5:15 p.m.

    I am just savoring the SDSU win and worrying about New Mexico. After that's done, then I will worry about TCU. One step at a time, keep the focus and then move on. If they take that approach, which Dave Rose will make sure they do, they will do well.

  • One Nil to the Arsenal! Gilbert, AZ
    Feb. 28, 2011 4:45 p.m.

    Th I could not agree with you more. Nice to see a realistic BYU fan. You play in a weak conference. I'm not buying SDSU as a top 10 team. They have beaten nobody (Gonzaga was their best win). What do you think BYU's record would be if they played in the Big East this year? Seriously, answer that question truthfully. Week in and week out, those teams are beating each other up. I think they would have a winning record, but barely. I have them going to the sweet 16, but that K-State/Washington game is a tough 2nd round match up. I can't see the Y as a number #1 seed. I just can't. They would never live up to the hype. I think this team gets beat in the round of 16. But that is why you play the game.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Feb. 28, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    I'm totally amazed that BYU would get a #1 seed, San Diego would get a #3 and the same predictor would show USU getting a #11. Thats the "very" problem with this tournament. Nothing put pure politics! And I don't want to here the garbage about RPI commentors, because quite frankly there is just not a 10 or 7 seed difference in these 3 teams! There is the very reason some teams have a hard time winning any games in the NCAA tourney, a high seed plays a low seed and guess who will probaly win. Lets be fair guys!

  • Th Tooele, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 4:00 p.m.

    This is nice for byu. I think it will eventually come down to the conference they play in. I know they have a high RPI and SOS, but the human side will be where the difference is. BYU is a current solid #2 seed which is plenty of respect considering their history in the NCAA's.

    No matter the seed, they will be challenged from every team they face. BYU should make it to the second round easily but from there it will be difficult.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 3:07 p.m.

    There's not much difference between a #1 and a #2 seeding...BYU will get one of them. Unless BYU loses its next 3 games...

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    Regardless of seed, it is up to BYU to make the most of it. I believe this team is up to the challenge.

  • ArticunoBYU Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 2:29 p.m.

    Nice! A chance to get revenge on K-State!

  • Booyatzee Syracuse, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    #1 is respect, but doesn't mean an automatic trip to the Final Four. I would take a #2 with an easier competition.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Feb. 28, 2011 1:40 p.m.

    Lots of love for Jimmer and BYU; fortunately, this team seems to be very level-headed about all of the praise and is able to stay focused in even the most frenzied enviroments.

    Two more games for BYU in the Marriott Center this week and a chance for Jimmer to get a little payback against the Lobos. If you're a New Mexico fan, that's a very scary thought.