Red roundup: Pundits weigh in on Utes' first Pac-12 recruiting class

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  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Feb. 20, 2011 10:30 p.m.


    LOL again at your list of "4 star" recruits the utes signed after signing day last year.


  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 19, 2011 7:38 p.m.

    "#7 or #8 recruiting classes will result in a #7 or #8 Conference of Champions ranking. That looks to be an AQ for the Vegas Bowl... if you're lucky"


    And what does a 60th ranked recruting class ( per Rivals/scout) leave the tds?

    I guess if you can muster 6 wins you can get to the Kraft Hunger Bowl.

    Here's the rub - if you win all your games you probably will end up in the Kraft Hunger Bowl.

    Have fun.

  • Mormon in Michigan Detroit, MI
    Feb. 19, 2011 1:00 p.m.

    I am glad that the PAC 12 invited a Mormon school. This will help our missionary program immensley. To finally be invited to play with the big boys just shows how far the Church has come.

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Feb. 19, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    So defensive wedgie LOL

    If all this 4 star talent is always lying around waiting for whittingham to gobble up after signing day has passed then why does whit even bother sigining anyone at all on signing day? It seems he should just wait around and then grab all those studs no one else seemed to be smart enough to grab. And of course obviously whittingham is the only one capable of grabbing this somehow ignored (even though you claim they are 4 star rated) talent.


    I happne to know BYU gave a scholarship to a QB this past Monday. He was a Utah state MVP a couple of years ago and is currently on a mission. Great player. There is nothing in the press about it, there is no publicity about it, I doubt the press even knows about it, but this kid is now going to be at BYU. I'm sure the will be some public note of it when he returns from his mission.

    Perhaps all these super 4 stars lying around that whittingham is signing will get published when it actually happens? I can't wait. LOL

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Feb. 19, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    This is how Rivals ranks Utah's recruiting class against the PAC 12 by position. Gives some perspective.

    QB 12
    Running Backs 2
    Wide receivers 5
    TE 7 tied
    Offensive Line 5
    Defensive tackle 8 tied
    DE 10
    Line backers 10
    Defensive backs 3
    Athlete 7 tied

    Coaches of course recruit according to need so you see Utah at #2 for running backs and #3 for defensive backs. At QB it would have been great to get Eubank but it didn't happen. There are other QB's currently in the program including Wynn. QB will be a big focus this coming recruiting year just as running backs were this year. Chow has some candidates in mind.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Feb. 19, 2011 7:29 a.m.

    wedgie... Is one of your 'mystery 4 star' recruits in that crystal ball a QB ??? Better hope so.

    #7 or #8 recruiting classes will result in a #7 or #8 Conference of Champions ranking. That looks to be an AQ for the Vegas Bowl... if you're lucky.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 11:15 p.m.


    As I recall it was just one Ute fan who claimed there were players still waiting to be recruited. I know nothing about that and therefore was not planning to comment on it.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 18, 2011 8:49 p.m.

    "Give a name, or give him respect for asking a valid question...."


    Ranson, Lee, Finau and Dunn all 4 stars signed with Utes last year after feb. 2nd. Offers from others schools include LSU, Auburn,Oregon St. and West Virgina.. to name a few.

    Did we know of Can we expect the same? possibly.

    As far as respect for Ducky? for a guy who bashes the UofU but claims to draw a check from them...very little respect.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 8:17 p.m.

    Duckhunter asks valid questions...

    Does anyone have an answer, or do you Utah fans just want to resort to calling names?

    Who are the recruits that are waiting to sign LOI?

    Give a name, or give him respect for asking a valid question....

  • moodyblue77 Provo, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 7:09 p.m.

    I think everybody has to feel good about the recruiting class. The Utes will perform on the field much better than the ranking of the class, as they always do. You can imagine that they might be even better with higher-ranked recruits.

    I still think that good coaching can take raw talent and turn it into excellent college football teams.

  • Transparency 2 Walnut Creek, CA
    Feb. 18, 2011 6:34 p.m.

    When UC Berkeley announced its elimination of student sports including baseball, mens, womens gymnastics, womens lacrosse teams and its defunding of the national-champion mens rugby team, the chancellor sighed, Sorry, but this was necessary!
    But was it? Yes, the university is in dire financial straits. Yet $3 million was somehow found by Chancellor Robert J Birgeneau ($500,000 salary) to pay the Bain consulting firm to uncover waste, inefficiencies in UC Berkeley (Cal), despite the fact that a prominent East Coast university was accomplishing the same thing without expensive consultants.

  • Bulldog8 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 6:34 p.m.

    Read the article again it said Whit is ranked as the 8th best recruiting coach in the PAC 12 not that the Utes had the 8th best recruiting class. Double check your facts

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Feb. 18, 2011 4:54 p.m.

    Should be an interesting year to say the least. I am one of those BYU fans who thinks Utah will do great their first year in the PAC 12. To win the championship might be difficult the first year but within 5 years not an impossibility. I have loved Coach Whittingham since the day he put on a Cougar Uniform and regretted that we did not get him. Doesn't mean I don't like Coach Mendenhall because he is a great coach too, he just has a different set of rules that makes recruiting a bit different. Whittingham is an intelligent and talented coach and he will make good use of this opportunity, anyone can bet on that. Only arrogant BYU fans would think differently. I wish the Utes all the success. The more successful they are the better it is for all of the State of Utah.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 18, 2011 3:09 p.m.


    Yea, that question has been brought upon on USC blogs.

    The thought is that USC would keep the 33? recruites they signed this year and have the difference made up over the next three years. Basically meaning USC would be allowed about 13 recuites per year.

  • Golfhack20 West Jordan, Ut
    Feb. 18, 2011 2:41 p.m.

    Don't forget if USC gets there appeal denied there is going to be a lot of kids who can't afford to stay there and go to school without the scholarship. Maybe we haven't seen the last of the recruiting class and Coach Witt is than looking like a genius with 5 extra scholarships to give out. To Be Continued......

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 18, 2011 2:38 p.m.

    Ted Miller of ESPN has a great PAC12 (utah) blog. ( an espn perk for being associated with a BCS conference) and I recommend Ute football fans to check it out... updated several times a day.

    It would be nice to have a "local" Utah voice as committed to Utah/Pac 12 news and information as Ted is....I guess DN's management has a different agenda.

  • Al Bundy murray, ut
    Feb. 18, 2011 1:56 p.m.


    You never make any sense! But you are funny!

  • Nostradamus Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    Year one - so far so good. Kyle will have these kids ready to play. Will be fun and the teams coming to RES are a whole new level!

    Ready for summer - but, can't wait for the fall!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 18, 2011 1:44 p.m.

    Chris b's momma,

    Let me ask you this.

    What if BYU was accepted into the PAC12 ( I know I'm laughing as well). Where would the kewgar recruitng class rank in the PAC?

    Crickets cricket crickets

  • Chris B's momma Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 18, 2011 1:11 p.m.

    ranked 8th in pac 10.2? Sounds about right!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 1:08 p.m.

    Thanks TJ for showing some class. I hope BYU gets most of what they hope for as an independent team. The only thing I don't want to see them get is wins against the Utes.

    Duckhunter, I know this is a cliche, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. Maybe your comment would carry some weight if BYU's recruiting class was a little better.

  • Thriller Saint George, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    That was a great move by Andre Miller. I've always wondered why no one has tried that. It always seems like both teams quit playing in anticipation of timeout.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Feb. 18, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    Coach Whitt does a great job at both recruiting and forming them into a team. I agree with Big_Ben, Kyle does not belong in Urban's shadow. He had proved himself over and over.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Feb. 18, 2011 12:37 p.m.

    I've always said:

    Kwhit and everyone else for that matter could take a good lesson from Chris Peterson. Peterson has outsmarted them all. Period.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 12:17 p.m.

    Best of luck to Utah, they'll have their hands full in a tough matter the recruits.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 12:03 p.m.

    Solid class for Utah. Hope they finish better than 8th in the league. Whit will do it if it can be done. Do they know the PAC teams they will play out of division this fall?
    Duck Hunter; Let sleeping hogs lie. If they are not spewing their usual no-class banter then don't drop to their level by instigating. Let's encourage civility and make fun of them only when they don't show it. Utah is a class school and I am looking forward to seeing them play in the PAC.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 18, 2011 11:55 a.m.


    I assume that's what your anger and jealousy tells you.

    Reality? A lot of 4 star talent falls between the cracks between now and next fall. Playing time, over recruiting, change of coaching staff, broken promises ect....

    Kwhit has approx. 5 scholarships to work with... just watch what he does with them.

    Utah now plays in a different sandbox than the tds and the talent proves it....that is besides the scoreboard.

    2 of 3
    6 of 9

    Qwack, qwack

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 11:28 a.m.

    You sure are desperate to make it seem better than it is wedgie. There aren't any top recruits sitting around waiting for whittingham to find after signing day is over. If the utes are signing another one at this point it is because absolutely no one else wanted them.


  • diddy Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 18, 2011 11:23 a.m.

    There are so many athletes out there now days. The real magic happens when they finally get the pads on and become a team. You can have wonderful recruiting classes but if the leader can't bring them together around a common goal and get buy-in from the players the team will fail. Coach Whittingham knows how to get buy-in and is a winner.

  • Otis Spurlock Ogden, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 11:11 a.m.


    You stated that Utah finished 8th in the PAC 12 in recruiting this year, but the link you provided states that Utah finished 7th in recruiting this year. From the article:

    "In his first offseason in the Pac-12, Whittingham had his best recruiting class ever. It ranked 45th nationally and the average player in the class had 2.95 stars. They may only be seventh in the Pac-12, but it is a good start...I see Whittingham climbing this list in the next few seasons."

    7th is a pretty good start for Utah. Dirk, double check facts next time.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 18, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    what's missing from the ranking is that Kwhit does a great job AFTER signing day. Last year Utah brought in three 4 star recrites after Feb. 2nd.

    As we speak, Utah is brining in some very intersting players... including a 6'8 OG out of Southern Cali... which Dirk refuses to talk about for some reason.

  • Big_Ben Centerville, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    Thanks to the Des News for compiling these links. But seriously, why is there one about Urban Meyer in every single one? I could care less about Meyer. He did a lot for this school and put us on the map, but come on!