BYU roundup: Rocky Long weighs in on Cougars' future

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  • ajlacq Provo, UT
    Feb. 5, 2011 6:38 p.m.

    I wonder what the people of Albuquerque would say about being "treated right", nice mess you left there at your Alma Mater Rocky. Yeah you don't want to play BYU...cause selling tickets obviously doesn't matter at SDSU. Better order more tarps to cover empty seats Rocky.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2011 8:17 a.m.

    Envy make people say crazy immature things.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Feb. 5, 2011 7:55 a.m.


    he likes to describe The Mighty Cougars as the "tds". Some think Urban Meyer coined the phrase. Actually it was Woody Hayes (Ohio State) who originated it with TUN - his affection for Michigan spawned the name. Never would "Michigan" roll off his lips. It was always TUN. Urban Meyer simply reversed it.

    At any rate - H-hog and Rocky Long: two peas in a pod. And both sore losers.

  • nottyou Riverton, UT
    Feb. 5, 2011 5:56 a.m.

    Rocky is such a man of integrity, he would never take advantage of the missionary 2-year rule as it would give him an unfair advantage and lead him to multiple national championships. Way to go Rocky...enjoy sucking salary your 2-3 year stint at SDSU!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 11:59 p.m.

    MWC schools dislike BYU for the same reason that third world countries hate the USA for helping them. BYU carried the WAC and the MWC for decades. The other schools are too prideful to say thank you for everything you done. Instead, they say we hate you because you won't keep giving. BYU would gladly have stayed in the MWC if they would have given them some freedom with the broadcasting. It would have been a win win. BYU would have gotten the exposure they wanted and the MWC would have kept their flagship program. I also believe that BYU will end up in a conference within 5 years unless the independent gig really takes off. They have too many positives to not be attractive to conferences who may expand. I just hope it is NEVER the PAC.

  • deseret pete robertson, Wy
    Feb. 4, 2011 11:25 p.m.

    where will they get their revenue from when they only have a big crowd when they come to hate BYU.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 4, 2011 11:25 p.m.

    Rocky Long may not want to play BYU, but SDSU administrators will want to play because of the fans and money BYU brings in.

    I've heard the BYU and the Holiday Bowl (i.e. San Diego) are trying to put a multi year agreement together starting in 2014.

    The MWC has really risen in stature the past few years. In football and basketball they are on par or better than some of the AQ conferences. With BYU, TCU and Utah leaving; the MWC will be just another mid-major conference - on par with Conf USA.

    I still think the real loser in all of this is BSU. Had they known that BYU, TCU and Utah were leaving there is no way they make the move to the MWC. And without BSU moving, Nevada, Fresno and Hawaii would not move. BSU will really be hurt by the lack of media coverage and will be longing for "the good ole' days".

    I can't wait to watch BYU on ESPN next year. ESPN is already in love with Jimmer. Next year they will be in love with Jake. Go Cougs!

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 10:58 p.m.

    "To all the MWC programs, please DO NOT play the tds. Let them die on the vine."

    Another classless and idiotic comment from the clueless.

  • Dave from Taylorsville Taylorsville, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    Hey Hedgehog! I do understand your hatred toward the tds.

    First, you use an expression (the tds) coined by Coach Meyer. The same guy who left your team high and dry for a "sunnier climate."

    Second, you've spent a couple of decades with your teams face in the muddy wagon tracks under the boot of BYUs relentless offense AND defense.

    And third, you realize that even though you're going to the PAC-Whatever, BYU will eventually be playing a far more meaningful schedule and basking in the light of independence (which actually mean Scheduling Freedom).

    The hatred ensued by so many is mainly due to envy more than any thing else. tds/BYU has done more coming from what most thought was a less tenable situation. The honor code. . . who would want to go where that's in force. Not even a cup of joe! And, at first thought (by Oklahoma Coach Berry Swisher) that bringing back return missionaries was such foolishness - he then turned an about face and said it was unfair to have these seasoned players on BYUs squad.

    It's not the last time you'll hear the whining people.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 9:21 p.m.

    The dogs may bark but the caravan moves on!

    BYU was the best partner the WAC and MWC ever had and they kept every commitment they ever made at great expense and sacrifice. It's my understanding BYU had no intention to move to independence until Utah was officially invited to the PAC12. Had Utah Stayed, BYU would have stayed.

    The move to independence was not about money as many have suggested. They built the new broadcasting facility at tremendous cost with the intent to give the LDS church visibility.

    ESPN knew the broadcast facility was a fantastic opportunity and the two entities partnered. Fore sure BYU enticed ESPN and BYU spent millions of dollars annually to promote their BRAND but for the purpose of exposure not revenue.

    Every team in the MWC owed their financial viability to BYU and rather than despising BYU they might try thanking BYU. I think if Mr. Thompson and the remaining MWC members would engage BYU rather than hating them, BYU would still agree to be great partners.

    Case in point, TCU has come full circle and entered talks, the others I think will too

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    Feb. 4, 2011 8:57 p.m.

    Gee, what was SDSU's status when they joined the WAC?

    You're right. They were an independent. They needed the WAC because even after playing a decent schedule most years, and beating Florida State once, they had been totally ignored for the few bowls that existed back then.

    When they joined the WAC they thought they had a free pass to the Holiday Bowl. They lost their first WAC game to...that's right the mighty UTEP Miners.

    I was sad to see Brady Hokek leave because it seemed like SDSU was finally going to reach its potential.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 8:39 p.m.

    Duckhunter well said. Here come the bottom line. Rocky Long won't be SDSU's head coach in 6 to 7 years to who cares what he thinks. The other comical thing is how much additional revenue SDSU received each time they played BYU.

  • Mountainman56 Alpine, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 7:44 p.m.

    It's surprising that Rocky is so clueless and bitter about this. First off, his statement that BYU would like to keep playing all of the MWC schools couldn't be farther from the truth. The main point of is move (as has been clearly stated by BYU many, many times) is exposure. How will BYU increase it's national exposure by continuing to play MWC teams? Look at who they have already been scheduling and you'll find teams from all over the country and this is just the beginning of the independence era. Give it a few more years as Rocky stated and SDSU won't have a prayer at getting on BYU's schedule. Furthermore, didn't Rocky just leave New Mexico to move to SDSU and as an assistant coach at that? He didn't have any idea that he'd move up to head coach after only 1 year in the program and yet he deserted UNM after many years there as HC. How can he complain about BYU moving on to a better opportunity when he just did the same thing himself?

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 6:54 p.m.

    Many of you have already answered your own questions. There are a couple of reasons for the hate and bitterness towards BYU. 1st is that BYU has routinely beat them up for several decades in almost every sport. The other is that BYU almost sngle handedly carried them all economically for all of that time.

    It was a situation where they all hated to get trounced but they needed BYU anyway because BYU brought the tv money and BYU borught fans to their stadiums and arenas and for a long time BYU was the only team bringing any bowl money.

    It was a codependent relationship for all of those other schools. They hated BYU abusing them on the court and field but needed BYU for credibility and revenue.

    I can understand the hate.

    Now BYU has bailed on them, BYU finally had enough of carrying them and these guys are bitter about it. They never wanted to publicly admit they are inferior but always knew they were. Now They have to fend for themselves and it will be all the more apparent they aren't worth on their own what they were with BYU to gravy train off of.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Feb. 4, 2011 6:31 p.m.

    I can't understand all the hate for BYU either. The most ludicrous one I keep hearing is that BYU was the entity behind the creation of theMTN, that they "forced" the TV Network down everybody else's throats, and now that they don't like how it turned out they are bailing. Crazy.

    Utah and TCU are leaving as well, yet the same hatred doesn't exist for them. No other team in the conference has been such a boon to the revenues of the teams it plays. As has been stated, most teams have had their highest attendance when playing BYU. Case in point: the Wyoming basketball game the other night. Plus, hasn't it been stated that most of the revenue from theMtn net work comes from Utah?

    So much for that. These MTN West schools will miss BYU and Utah a lot, more so than TCU I would guess. Don't know what you got 'til it's gone, right?

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Feb. 4, 2011 6:25 p.m.

    Keep it classy San Diego.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Feb. 4, 2011 5:35 p.m.

    Interesting tactic by Rocky; he's been owned by BYU and Bronco, so by refusing to play BYU, he can avoid at least one built in loss in his schedule for the next 5 or 6 years. By blaming BYU for leaving the MWC, he can make it appear that it's BYU's fault that he won't play them, not that he's afraid to play the Cougars. Smart move by a veteran coach.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 5:16 p.m.

    BYU games at SDSU have always attracted 10,000 to 20,000 more fans than SDSU usually gets, so the Long is simply cutting off his nose to spite his face.

    SDSU not scheduling BYU will have zero impact on the Cougars. With ESPN as a scheduling partner, BYU won't have any trouble filling their schedule and filling their stadium with attractive games.

    Lol at the misguided pronouncements of doom from the trolls; BYU's 2011 home schedule isn't at all indicative of the kinds of teams that will be playing in Provo in 2012 and beyond. The trolls will be green with envy when the Cougars start announcing their future schedules.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    In all seriousness, why is everyone out to get BYU?

    What did we ever do to anybody? I can understand the rivalry and what not as long as it's all in good fun, but where is all of this hatred coming from? Seriously? I'm perfectly aware that it exists, I've really just never understoond why.

    I really don't genuinely hate any other team. I just get irritated when other certain team's fans act like idiots towards us.

    I suppose if the misguided hate is hate towards the LDS church then I suppose I understand it, but it is really unfortunate that it exists because of that. It's wrong to hate anyone. I don't hate any random religion just because it's there or it's different. And those in the LDS Church that hate BYU, that's what I understand the least. They are probably the most misguided ones of all. Is it because of the "hypocrisy?" Isn't there "hypocrisy" among members of the church that don't attend BYU? Isn't there also "self righteous, arrogant" church members that are alumns of other schools? We (everyone) need to be more Christian.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 4, 2011 4:22 p.m.

    Nothing would make the tds more happy than to have the MWC games back.

    To all the MWC programs, please DO NOT play the tds. Let them die on the vine.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    Oh Rocky Long - you kind of sound like a bad sport. Before your classless comments I actually thought you were kind of a class act. Guess I was wrong. Doesn't matter anyway, Rocky won't fair much better in San Diego than he did at New Mexico.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    Rocky Long Envy?

    What a whiner. He should be happy that BYU is leaving because he's been owned by them. BYU never lost to Rocky Long under Bronco Mendenhall's tenure.

    The real losers in all of this is the WAC. Yeah the MWC lost out on 3 great teams, but how do you think the WAC feels? I don't know how they are going to survive as a conference.

  • Unbelievable West Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 4, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    Just another hater. It's tough when one of your disciples is working you every year. It don't matter if Long is a head coach at New Mexico, or an assistant at San Diego, he can't beat the Y!


    Why so bitter!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 3:49 p.m.

    Rocky was born in Provo because his dad was playing football for byu at that time.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Feb. 4, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    Most coaches from the MWC are upset that BYU, TCU and Utah are leaving. I mean, they are lucky that Boise came to the conference. Without them, who is going to bring the money in to support the conference, the Mountain??? All 3 teams made wise choices, just in different ways. Good luck to all of them.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 3:26 p.m.

    Rocky is trying to turn things around....playing BYU will only guarantee one thing...another loss for SDSU, every year......he should add teams like NAU, Weber State, Snow to SDSU schedule and stay away from the BYU's~~

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    Ditto that Max was right.

    He acts like byu owes the MWC something. BYU thinks they can get more money somewhere else. Every school in the nation is going to go after more money was possible.

    It's funny when they throw a hissy fit.

  • Max-was-right springville, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 3:11 p.m.

    Cry baby.....