WAC edges MWC in final conference ranking

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  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 4:20 p.m.

    BYU will gettum next year. BYU has a bright future and will get better and better and their finances will be far better as an independent.

  • Otis Spurlock Ogden, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 11:02 a.m.

    I love the PAC 10 ranking! Second best Conference in the Nation. Truly, a Conference of Champions!

    Go PAC 12! Go BCS! Norm Chow! Go Utes!

  • YouAreKidding Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    Don't make too much of the WAC being hire-rated than the MWC at the end of 2010. Aside from Boise, Nevada was a flash in the pan in 2010 and will not be able to maintain its momentum w/o Kapernick. Fresno is Fresno and is schizofrenic. Hawaii is...Hawaii. All in all, the MWC took one step forward and three steps back in gaining BSU and switching out Nevada, Fresno, and Hawaii for BYU, TCU, and Utah.

    At this point, with Utah moving to the PAC 12 and BYU going indy/WCC, I could care less about the MWC. With the Mtn's horrible TV contract, the BSU-led MWC will fade into oblivion in the next five years.

    My only hope is that Hair grows a brain and re-extends an invite to Utah State so that the disappearing WAC doesn't kill the Aggies. Their backetball program is top-notch and Anderson has the football team moving in the right direction.

  • aggie2010 Logan, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 6:00 p.m.

    @Y Grad
    Any way you slice it, the WAC was better than the MWC in the past year. The MWC is getting the best teams from the WAC, and therefore *should* still be in consideration for automatic qualifying status. However, your point about the BCS being unfair is all too true, and is why I said should instead of will. If the BCS were fair, we wouldn't even be having the "who's worthy of automatic qualification" argument. It is exactly why we need a playoff system.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 23, 2011 8:59 a.m.

    Agreed. The best of the WAC was better than the MWC. And SJSU/NM were a wash.

    The Big East secured their continued AQ status by bring in TCU.

    Still, with Boise State, AFA, Fresno, Nevada, and Hawaii in the MWC---I think it would be reasonable to allow the MWC AQ status, bringing the total to 7 conferences.

    Then, you'd award one more spot to "the best of the rest" (Independents, Sun Belt, C-USA, WAC, and MAC) for a total of 8 teams. Add 4 at-large teams and you'd have a 12 team play-off.

    Would have been something like this, had Boise State and TCU been in their future conferences this year:

    1) Auburn, bye first round. Meets winner of 8 vs 9.
    2) Oregon, bye first round. Meets winner of 7 vs 10.
    3) TCU, bye first round (projected Big East champ). Meets winner of 6 vs 11.
    4) Wisconsin, bye first round. Meets winner of 5 vs 12.

    5) Stanford vs 12) UCF (projected "best of the rest")
    6) Oklahoma vs 11) VA Tech
    7) Ohio State vs 10) Arkansas
    8) Michigan State vs 9) Boise State (projected MWC champ)

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 23, 2011 12:01 a.m.

    The PAC couldn't meet their quota of bowl eligible team. Bunch losers!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    Jan. 22, 2011 11:03 p.m.

    "Utah had left for the PAC 10 long before BYU decided to leave the MWC."

    Actually, Owl is most right on this matter. I heard from reliable sources that the decision to go independent was made about 5 years ago. They have what it takes-- the BYUtv in HD, fans nationwide, and a great history are sufficient. The timing was the issue. When do they leave? So in a way, it was a knee-jerk reaction to Utah leaving, as it opened a door to do what they had planned for years.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    @live hard....so you think that TCU will ever see a BCS game for the next decade....How much you want to bet that TCU will make the BCS game the first year in that conference. Why don't you have a look at the history of the Big East and rethink your though process again. Of course, one must understand football to understand what that would actually mean. If you think any team in the Big East is better than TCU then you haven't even watched football since TCU came to the MWC. Don't look at their MWC record, look at the their NON Conference record.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Jan. 22, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    Why all the dribble about UofU and BYU leaving their conference? Good for both teams as the outlook looks bright. Looks bright for most fans of both teams. For the critics, the brightness is in the glee of predicing their hated teams final demise. Both fans and critics should be excited.

    Only time will tell if these moves were well done. I personally think so for BYU, U not so much.

    As for AQ status. MWC is likely to gain AQ status and the Big Easy or ACC lose status. However, the TV markets of the respective conferences will have to change the rules to keep the TV advertising money flowing.

    Go Cougars. Make some serious waves in the sea of indepence.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 8:41 p.m.

    Old news, was on espn.com yesterday.

    WAC only beat MWC in the rankings because the Utes weren't any match for Boise State...

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:14 p.m.

    @ hedgehog

    26-3 ring a bell?


  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 5:55 p.m.

    The talk of BYU leaving the MWC was going on before Utah left. Look it up.

    Besides, the loss of Utah is of minor significance. The real loss was the loss of TCU, which was the DIRECT result of BYU bailing. Look that up, too.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Jan. 22, 2011 5:38 p.m.

    @ Aggie2010

    Let's do the math here. BYU was a cupcake at the beginning, came on strong at the end, but too late to do any good -vs- the WAC.

    Utah got played like a cupcake at the end. Evidence, they are sooo proud of beating a 7-6 BYU by one at home. On the last play of the game.

    Wyoming... is the posterboy cupcake.

    The historically three top teams of the MWC leave, BSU and the traitors come in, the MWC becomes the old WAC. You DO still have an up and coming SDSU, but you traded one set of cupcakes for another, what makes anyone think this conference in one or two years time will have a better resume than either the WAC or the MWC has had for the past however many?

    And as has been pointed out, who on earth would start with the assumption that the BCS will be "fair" in considering admission?

    And, sorry, Y ask Y, on this one, the universe doesn't revolve around the Y. While I will never agree that independence was a knee-jerk reaction to the U going PAC, obviously the U started the exodus.

  • aggie2010 Logan, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    "Besides, without Utah, TCU or BYU, the MWC just became the WAC, so why should they gain BCS status?"

    Did you read the article? Even with Utah, TCU, and BYU, the WAC was considered by experts to be a better football conference last season than the MWC. So if the MWC was being considered for BCS status, yet the WAC was better, then the new MWC should be considered even more eligible for the BCS.

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 3:52 p.m.

    Utah left before BYU and as soon as another AQ conference courted TCU they would have been gone. BYU would not have left the regional competition had Utah stayed. Once the MWC started to crumble, BYU exercised an option they had considered for a decade.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Jan. 22, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    What does it matter what the rankings of these two Conferences were this year? They won't even resemble the same Conferences next year.

  • spudlydoright McCammon, Idaho
    Jan. 22, 2011 3:41 p.m.

    As a BSU fan I certainly wish that they were in an AQ conference. However, with Utah and TCU gone to AQ conferences BSU's chances of being in the BCS games on a regular basis have gone up dramatically. As of right now there really isn't anyone out there to compete with them for the available spot. Unless someone else steps up and becomes more competitive, like BYU, for instance, I think BSU could be in almost every year.

  • Old ball coach Sandy, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 3:28 p.m.

    To Striker and DC: What excuse are you going to use when Boise beats TCU handly in Fort Worth and says good ridence to the Frogs!

    Fact of the matter, is the Mountain West loses nothing with the loss of Utah and TCU....BYU has not done much since the inception of the conference. (Yes, Cougars you were once the leader of the Old WAC)

    I have to agree, the MWC will eventually get what it deserves....a BCS Bid!

  • Iheartblood Salt Lake, Utah
    Jan. 22, 2011 3:12 p.m.

    How sad that you for some reason think that BYUs schedule next year is any indication of the schedules they will have the next 6. 2012 games scheduled are Oregon St., Hawaii, Utah, Boise St., Georgia Tech and Notre Dame. Not exactly fluff there.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 22, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    "BYU's "new conference" will be the who's who of the college football world."

    More like a who's who???

    Utah State Idaho State Louisiana Tech Idaho New Mexico State Hawaii.

    You'd ber better off playing Bingham High.

    How sad. How very, very sad. To think a few decades ago you thought things were looking up.

  • DixieAggie St.George, Utah
    Jan. 22, 2011 2:48 p.m.

    BYU probably made a good move towards ESPN independence in football, but I don't see how this will help them come any closer towards the BCS Championship game. Does independence make one more bowl eligible (honest question, I don't really know)?

    On another note, U. State should switch to the MWC. It's just a better move all around.

  • KH Holladay, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 2:44 p.m.

    Truth Machine,

    Yeah, Utah did struggle a little bit towards the end of the season. But as BYU fans love to tell everyone, a 10-3 season is a GREAT season. And didn't that "wounded Wynn" and the Utes beat Heaps and the cougars this year?

    Scoreboard: 17-16
    2 out of 3
    6 out of 9

    P.S. If you really believe that Utah will be battling for the bottom of the PAC in years to come, where would that put BYU if they were in the PAC? Below Utah, that's where. You have unconciously just bashed your own team.

  • KH Holladay, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 2:39 p.m.

    Y ask Y,

    Utah had left for the PAC 10 long before BYU decided to leave the MWC.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    Actually, hedgehog, BYU only had a miserable start; the Cougars improved rapidly and played very well the 2nd half of the season.

    Utah, on the other hand, had a disastrous second half of the season; completely embarrassed in three games and lucky to the other three.

    BYU has Heaps next season.

    Utah has a wounded Wynn.

    BYU helped make their new and old conferences and neither one will ever be as good again now that BYU is going independent.

    BYU's "new conference" will be the who's who of the college football world.

    Enjoy battling Washington State and Colorado for the PAC 12 basement.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Jan. 22, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    Dear Y ask Y - I believe Utah left first, then BYU left, then TCU. I don't think Utah consulted with BYU before they left.

    The writer of the article assumes that the BCS system of choosing conferences is fair. I'm sure there will be something that comes up to allow the Big East to stay in the BCS system. Besides, without Utah, TCU or BYU, the MWC just became the WAC, so why should they gain BCS status?

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 22, 2011 2:20 p.m.

    It didn't help that BYU stunk it up this year. Although most reasonable sports fan saw it coming; no tds fan would have believed BYU would have lost to USU and Nevada.

    TDS should feel good though; their new conference beat their old conference.


  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Jan. 22, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    Sorry, but the MWC will never gain B_$ status. BYU, Utah, and TCU made that conference what it was. All that the MWC will be is a newer WAC conference.

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 1:39 p.m.

    I am still extremely disappointed in my Cougars for bailing on the MWC. Had they stayed, most likely Utah and TCU would have stayed, and the MWC could have been one of the top conferences in the country!

  • Ogden Aggie Ogden, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    Very interesting. Let's hope the MWC decides to go to 12 teams and adds the Aggies. Football is on the rise, and the Ags would be a great addition to an already impressive basketball league. Go State!!!