Ancient manuscript tells of journey of the 3 wise men; text has ideas Mormons will relate to, BYU prof says

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  • charlie91342 Sylmar, CA
    Jan. 21, 2011 4:51 p.m.

    this article highlights my biggest issue with the bible...

    all of it was written many years, and in some cases such as this one, centuries after the fact. didn't these wise men keep a journal? why does everything have to be 2nd (or 3rd or 4th) hand instead of directly from the participants?

    can anyone explain why nothing was written about Jesus while he was alive? It's like a gaping hole in the texts. Certainly people wrote back then, or the old testament wouldn't have been written. (I think it was written pre-Christ but I may have that wrong.)

    It just seems like at least one of Jesus' disciples would have kept a diary or something. I know there are vauge references to Jesus in texts of that time, but why no first-hand stories written? Why did it take so long for anyone to begin writing about it?

    just seems somewhat conspiratorial by the Roman Catholic church. No offense is meant by this - I just don't understand why there is such a big gap in documentation...

  • wayneincalif Huntington Beach, CA
    Jan. 21, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    I know so many people (LDS) that shy away from reading and studying anything other than than what's in a 4 in 1 combo. This is a shame. There is so much extremely interesting and intellectual material available that would explain some of the things that many only wonder about.
    But, maybe they would just as soon stay mystified, and accept that old axiom about hard to understand truths..."that's the beauty of it..."
    I just read 'Rough Stone Rolling--the Biography of Joseph Smith'. It really clarified many things that a lot of people think need to be swept under the rug; but if they would only look into it, they would find there is nothing to hide. And this book really does just that. It only strengthened my testimony, and made me even more appreciative of what Joseph, his family and associates went through.

  • Idaho Coug Meridian, Idaho
    Jan. 10, 2011 11:43 a.m.

    Good point Bonzinho. I think most major religions tend to think in a very insular way. As LDS, we do this too. We tend to think all scripture and prophecy was largely about and/or leading to us.

    I remain open to the idea that God speaks to different people in different ways. And it may be that his words and interactions with other people through their individual religious frameworks are just as true and vital as we see it through our LDS lense.

    We have a mindset that we must bring others to our truth. Maybe they are in their own truth for a reason and receiving exactly what God wants them to receive.

  • Bonzinho Buda, TX
    Jan. 10, 2011 8:23 a.m.

    Along with my earlier point, I'm saying that there are many Christians who need to start "thinking outside the Bible box". Even with the limited information about the wise men that Matthew records, it should be clear that there was another people, another society somewhere, that must have had prophets among them, who foretold the coming of Christ into the world -- the Savior of all mankind.

    The people were told there would be signs that would accompany his birth -- a people far removed from Judah and Israel.

    What a novel concept -- that God (Jehovah) might actually be speaking and interacting with a people prior to Christ's (his) birth outside of the Old Testament!

  • Bonzinho Buda, TX
    Jan. 10, 2011 8:06 a.m.

    To those in and around Jerusalem Jesus said there were "other sheep" (followers of Christ) who would hear his voice. To the Nephites he declared that there were yet others whom he would visit and they would hear his voice. I have always assumed that from where ever the wise men had come, there was a group of believers whom he would visit in much the same way as he had done among the Nephites.

    While we may not know how accurate the story is of these "wise men", it at least should be an eye opener to other Christians as to what early Christians were evidently comfortable with when relating a story about a people outside of Israel who knew about Christ, knew of the importance of his birth, and were willing to make such an effort to be there to see the Christ child themselves. It seems certain that the wise men would have been given assurances that Christ would one day reward their righteous efforts by visiting them.