Cause of fire and fate of Provo tabernacle still up in the air

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  • snowman Provo, UT
    Dec. 20, 2010 10:36 p.m.

    Skippy: That pictures was only smoke damaged.

    John Pack Lambert of Michigan: I can gaurantee that it won't belong to NuSkin ever. A former mayor found that out.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Dec. 20, 2010 4:13 p.m.

    This building fulfills vital community functions. It needs to be re-built. Ideally in as close a manner as the orinal as possible.

    The absolute worst idea is terro nova's of leaving it as a burned out shell. This would make Provo the Detroit of the west. The last thing one wants in a city is burned out, chard remnants of a functional city.

    If it is not rebuilt, than it should be razed and turned into something else. As much as I want it rebuilt, I would much rather see it as a NuSkin parking lot than as a charred remnant.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Dec. 20, 2010 4:08 p.m.

    You are right about the walls standing not being a sign that they are stable.

    I would hope if they do have to raze the walls, there will be an attempt to re-use some of the original brick. Still it will not be an easy process.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Dec. 20, 2010 4:06 p.m.

    It is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that owns this building. The Church is largely self-insured, but I have read allegations that the Church does have $1 million or so premium insurance on at least some buildings. Thus there may or may not be insurance.

    On the other hand, with the skills needed to rebuild a building like this one it is unclear that the insured value would actually pay to rebuild it.

    I, like many others, hope the building is rebuilt. The Final decisions on such and the reasoning behind making the decision will probably be tied to determinations made in the future.

  • Chickenchaser Centralia, WA
    Dec. 20, 2010 10:28 a.m.

    I AM sentimental though not LDS. DNA took care of that.
    One of our sons played that organ often and now they are both gone.

    I'll contribute to its reconstruction. Ryan would like it that way. Merry Christmas

  • Skippy West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 11:44 p.m.

    I am not sentimental about this building for any reason and I have no opinion about rebuilding it or not. But check out the photos...the picture of Christ that is burned all around Christ is an amazing site! This picture speaks volumes!

  • terra nova Park City, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 10:13 p.m.

    Clean up the site, stabilize it and leave the walls as a burned-out park-like memorial to pioneer heritage.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 4:58 p.m.

    One has to wonder if this was an assisted fire, or if someone left a glue gun on by mistake or something like that or why there were no sprinklers. It was a tinderbox. Surely the fire marshal could tell that. That is why we hire them.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 3:53 p.m.

    Sad, unfortunate.

    I didn't see any mention of any loss of human life in this article, and if that is the case, perhaps we can look at that as a silver lining in this tragedy.

    On a side note, I'm happy that no one is placing blame for this tragedy.

    After Prop 8, it seemed that ANYTHING bad that happened to the LDS faith was the fault of the LGBT community alone.

    If it was true or not.

    It's nice to see LDS members going back to the concept of 'live and let live, and rebuild.'

    Because 1) as far as I am aware, there was no loss of life, and 2) The faith that motivated the creation of this building has endured.

  • snowman Provo, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 2:37 p.m.

    KurtFK: From the way the roof caved in protected the walls from the fire. They were putting water on the walls to keep them from crumbling and they did a very good job of it. All four walls and the four towers are still intacted. It was said that it would be possible for the church to rebuild it. It is actually being treated as a crime scene.

  • snowman Provo, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 2:31 p.m.

    SunDevil9: The Tabernacle did not belong to the city so why should they insure it?

    Bluto: The Nauvoo Temple was rebuilt as it was in Josephs time. All the materials are the same and most of the materials came from right there in Nauvoo.

  • ivieacres Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 1:58 p.m.

    The Living Nativity has always been such a wonderful event that was held at the Tabernacle for many years. We provide the animals including the camel for this event, so it was sad for us to see this tragic thing happen. Thinking this might of been the last year for the Living Nativity.We were not sure whether we were going to be back for another year. I feel sometimes people take things for granted until they are gone.

    I am so glad we had that opportunity to do it this year especially since it may definitely be the last time if it is not rebuilt.

    However we continue to share the joy of Christmas in a Living Nativity in Salt Lake at Liberty Park doing the Echoes of Christmas Monday to Wednesday 7-9 PM.

  • SpanishImmersed Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 19, 2010 1:57 p.m.

    Too bad the pot lighting was left on, with everyone thinking it was someone else going to turn them out.

    Hopefully the Church Insurance and Risk Assessment Dept. will be quick in reimbursing the owners of instruments and production equipment lost in the blaze.

    The Church will restore this dedicated edifice to current code as soon as possible. It will continue to be the jewel at the center of Provo City. Inspirational music and words will be heard again from within its walls.

  • KurtFK Littleton, CO
    Dec. 19, 2010 11:48 a.m.

    The walls may appear "intact" but often in cases like this the heat damage renders them unusable. If the Church does rebuild it, they will probably have to raze the whole building to the ground and start over from scratch. I hope they do.

  • Kami Bountiful, Utah
    Dec. 19, 2010 11:06 a.m.

    I don't get attached to buildings. I admire them. I particularly admire older structures. The fire hasn't removed the memories. Restoration won't change the memories. I wouldn't support rebuilding it purely for emotional attachment reasons. Whatever the church decides to do will be the right decision and I'll give that decision 100% of my support.

  • Gordon T. Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 10:47 a.m.

    Whether you agree with LDS doctrine or not it is a beautiful structure and I hope it can be restored.

  • CoolCougar Provo, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 10:46 a.m.

    @SunDevil9: This building is owned by the Church and they are self-insured. I'm sure they will consider the costs of rebuilding and decide if it is the best use of the funds.

    Sad to see such a beautiful building go.

  • anchorageles Ventura, CA
    Dec. 19, 2010 10:00 a.m.

    from what I see...the outside structure is still intact and I,am hoping that the buliding can be saved though wonders why such things happen...just another example in God's complex yet simple plan...I just have to let go all confusing reasonings and give in to the fact that God controls all for the good!

  • SunDevil9 orem, ut
    Dec. 19, 2010 9:01 a.m.

    Um, didn't the city have fire insurance? If not, someone should get fired.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 6:07 a.m.


    Absolute Nonsense!

    This must be restored. The 4 walls are intact. Donations to restore would be raised in 30 days.

    It's laughable how people say, ah jee whiz, just tear it down? Why?

    Visit Europe and stand in 1200 year old Abby's and 1000 year old Cathedrals.

    20 years ago people wanted to tear down the old City and County building in Salt Lake.

    Pure Lunacy.

    As for Academy square, what a treasure to Provo. No price is too high when preserving our Heritage.

    The LDS Church rebuilt the Nauvoo Temple, they've spent millions retro-fitting the Tabernacle. They are constantly remodeling their Temples and Church's.

    Let us hope and pray the LDS Church leaders will not fade back into the thinking of the past when such foolish decisions were made, like tearing down the Coalville Tabernacle and many historic buildings in downtown SLC.

    Pres Hinckley loved the Historic buildings and preserving them, Cove Fort etc..

    Simply put, the Provo Tabernacle must be preserved at any cost, and if a partial wall must come down for access, then every brick must be marked and numbered for restoration.

    Dear Brethren, PreserveOurHeritage!

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 12:43 a.m.

    Very sad, but, perhaps it's time to move on. I dread another effort and enormous sums that went into Academy Square. The place is a total ruin and one tremor would send the bricks down. I'm sure the Church won't let emotions and pathos dictate how they'll rebuild there. I trust the results will be in keeping with the pioneer heritage using safe building codes of today.

  • Sandy Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 18, 2010 11:44 p.m.

    Good bye to that beautiful landmark, site of many precious memories, in a town I love.

  • PAC Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 18, 2010 3:06 p.m.

    That is too bad....

  • Grad Student Provo, Ut
    Dec. 18, 2010 2:44 p.m.

    Ode to the Provo Tabernacle from a Sad BYU Student

    Your seats were hard, so no one evr slept,
    Your organ was lovely, music from the keys lept,
    Your floor boards were creaky, as late students in crept,
    Your balcony was perfect, sending program airplanes far,
    Sometimes you shook, causing seats to jar.
    Your windows were lovely, staining light colors,
    Your AC was broken, causing much tremors,
    Firesides, concerts, speakers and more
    how oft, how oft, students walked through your doors.
    And so in cheesy conclusion, of a cheesier rhyme,
    How much we will miss you, and all those wonderful times.