Utah Jazz: How will the Jazz fare after thrilling win?

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  • Matty.G
    Jan. 17, 2010 4:25 a.m.

    To Andrew,
    Zach is correct. Your not allowed to take 2 steps when you havent dribbled the ball.
    LeBron got the ball, took a small step back with his right foot which then becomes his pivot foot then he took a massive step behind the line with his left foot. He then lifted his right and also dragged it behind the line. That was only one of many but anyway..we won and he'll continue to get away with it regardless.

  • the Mailman
    Jan. 16, 2010 7:14 p.m.

    Now now Doug, those personal attacks are not necessary here. Why do you feel the need to do that?

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion my good man, even you and your alter-ego Ed. When you get so defensive it is obvious to see you are clutching at straws and trying to insult your way out of trouble, instead of using logic and reasonable arguments.

    Just accept your views are in the extreme minority on these boards (and in the thinking world) and move on. It's not good to carry such hate in your heart ol' Dougy baby!

  • IDjazz12
    Jan. 16, 2010 4:35 p.m.

    I will give Sloan some of the credit for the win but at the same time he was forced to put players into the game that would not usually see the light of day in the fourth quarter with Boozer fouled out, and AK and Deron sucking there thumbs in the locker room. And does it not seem stupid that you have two seven footers playing for the CAVS and yet Fes is glued to the bench but in crunch time you put a guy in that is on his second 10 day contract. Yeah great he hit the shot but it was not because Sloan was the better coach. It was more because he was forced to play guys who have more heart than the starters do.

    Guaranteed if the other guys are not fouled out or hurt Sloan rides them to the loss because that is what he does.

  • Jazz Cop
    Jan. 16, 2010 3:38 p.m.

    What, no trade rumors today? Chris bosh could be in utah, and he should be at all costs. He'd be a player we can depend on, and he'd be loving sloans system. he said in a report he'd think about going to new york because d'antoni is a good coach, i wonder if he thinks sloan stinks, and this is why we haven't traded for him?

  • re: brandon
    Jan. 16, 2010 3:32 p.m.

    in case you havent noticed the lakers can maybe relax a bit and lose some games since they are the defending champions afterall. there is a reason why the lakers have the top record right now in the nba just as the jazz did in '97 and '98, because they are talented, deep, and have a really good team. the jazz' current winning streak is the norm for them each and every single year, they'll win like 10-15 in a row each year which will shut their critics up only temporarily and then they go right back to their losing ways and give their critcs a reason to complain.

  • Zach
    Jan. 16, 2010 2:31 p.m.

    To Andrew
    Just a clarification, Lebron's step back 3 pointer WAS a travel. You are not allowed two steps without a dribble. Once you get the ball and take a step you've established a pivot foot, and once that pivot foot is established it may be picked up, but cannot be returned to the floor without shooting or passing. The new rule reads, in part (Oct. 16, 2009): "A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball."

  • re: Todd
    Jan. 16, 2010 12:53 p.m.

    You are wrong again.

    Analysis is always fair...it just that you rarely have anything to say but offer NEGATIVE and COMPLAINING analysis.

    If you ever do offer any positive statements it always seems to be with a qualifier.

    My guess is that in your life your glass has never been half full.

    You have been challenged multiple times on these forums as a result of your incessant critical comments of O' Conner to give us a trade that:

    1. Does not worsen the Jazz salary cap issues.

    2. Does not make the Jazz take on bad long term contracts.

    3. A trade for players actually available.

    4. Makes us able to beat the lakers.

    When you provide this then you might get some credibility.

    Until then most everyone recognizes your comments for what they are. Negative blather.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 16, 2010 12:53 p.m.

    I for one would still like to see a trade!! That was a tremendous shot by Gains but that wont get the Jazz to the playoffs!! I for one would like to see a D-Will and Rip backcourt here in Utah!!

  • Brandon
    Jan. 16, 2010 12:47 p.m.

    I would still like to see a trade before the deadline!! that one shot wont get us to the playoffs! we need to make a push for the playoffs!

  • True Sports Fan
    Jan. 16, 2010 12:16 p.m.

    The Cleveland game is why I go to sporting events, everyone that watched has a great memory, had fun, and will talk about that game for a long time. Your favorite team does not have to win a championship or win every game to enjoy the game. Sure you buy a ticket and the team you support should try and put the best product out there, but enjoy the game.

  • brian eaves
    Jan. 16, 2010 11:56 a.m.

    Doug, you need to cut out the rhetoric. More people agree with Todd than they do not. He is fair when Sloan and O' Connor do right he has mentioned it.

    If it was up to you and a few others Censorship would be alive and well.

    I agree as usual with Todd, most of the people who write and bag on those who disagree and are not satisfied "with a nice product", you rarely see on here when they lose.

  • Grandma Jazz
    Jan. 16, 2010 11:46 a.m.

    I was AT the Jazz/Cavs game sitting behind the Cavs bench, and I heard King James verbally intimidate a ref. Yeah, others do it too with a snarl and in-your-face attitude, though I haven't seen the Jazz do that much. Not like LeBron. And he rolled his eyes after we won as the team exited. Yuck! Loved Korver's shot and can still see that last ball by Gaines flying through the air. It was a timeless, hold-your-breath moment, and then the noise was enough to make my body vibrate! I think about who was playing and who wasn't, and I have to say I'm impressed. All other Jazz issues aside, it was a night to remember and well worth the ticket price for those seats. That win will always merit its own stand-alone place in Jazz history, no matter what's come before or will come after. I loved it! Thank you Jazz for a very memorable evening!

  • todd "the houseman"
    Jan. 16, 2010 11:45 a.m.

    Here is what 1124 and Doug and Ed want to hear:

    I want to provide pleasure

    The JAZZ are the best run sports organization since the invention of the peach basket

    The Jazz always spend the money wisely, make little change which is great, respect the elders and feel the best way to go is for everyone to agree whatever they do

    Being critical, is unamerican and unjustified

    Sloan has the most versatile system ever-better than Scottie Bowman and all the legends

    SLoan, loves utilizing his whole roster, loved milking Knight, Collins, Benoit, Mcleod and other great Jazz players that were as good as Kobe

    Sloan has the best defensive mindset. AS a player he always knows what to do. Against good shooters it is a great idea to allow 2 open shooters behind the line and tells his guys to stay humble in the lane/paint


    Sloan has the best playoff of any coach

    Sloan is Far better than Pops, Auerbach, Red (both) and Phil ever would hope to be

    Sloan knows more in one hand than the rest will know in a lifetime

    Being critical when called is wrong and uncalled for

    My name "House Man"

  • todd from santa ana
    Jan. 16, 2010 11:37 a.m.

    Ed and Doug the new "outsider" Bodyguards. who needs the real thing?

    Ed you said it best, so I do not have to call you a "sloanaholic"

    I smell something fishy and it is not what "the Rock has cookin"

  • re: Todd to Doug
    Jan. 16, 2010 11:24 a.m.

    Yes Doug,

    Todd is a "veteran" of his oops I mean these boards.

    He reigns supreme and he is always "fair" and "accurate" but never negative.

    Todd you are delusional windbag on here and everyone knows it.

    Good comments Doug. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what you said.

    Nothing that is unless your name is Todd. Then there is always something wrong.

    Jan. 16, 2010 11:09 a.m.

    If lebron james played for the utah jazz all of you would wouldnt care about a travel. why dont you worry about your poing guard trying to guard jennings tonight. especially if its williams.

  • Houdini
    Jan. 16, 2010 11:08 a.m.

    We need 100% focus from everyone tonite,otherwize there`s gonna be alot of dissapointed Jazz fans tomorrow,need to share the ball and play defense...pretend you`re playing the Lakers or Cavs...

  • Andrew
    Jan. 16, 2010 10:58 a.m.

    I was just reading comments on a Cleavland Newspaper article, and all the fans there kept commenting that Sloan out coached Brown and it was Sloan's great coaching, proper use of the clock, proper use of players and proper use of time-outs that allowed the Jazz to have the chance to win. Funny you can come to D-news and see the opposite reaction from Jazz fans.

    And "Invisible Man" LeBron's step back 3 was not a travel. You are allowed 2 steps without dribbling, doesn't matter if it's 2 steps toward the rim (going in for a dunk or lay-up) or 2 steps away from the rim, the rule is two steps. LeBron only took one step.

    This was not a case of the refs looking the other way, in an effort to give the win to the Cavs. The refs aren't all out to get our team, and they're not all out to give LeBron anything he wants. Perhaps he will get the benefit of the doubt in a lot of situations, but nothing so obvious as that.

  • Ed
    Jan. 16, 2010 10:57 a.m.

    I hope you keep posting. Although I wish Fes would get to play and I think AK was treated badly a few years ago, I could be called a Sloanaholic. The constant negative stuff on this board gets a little tedious. We know a number of writers want Sloan fired.....and some of us disagree. Your comments have added some balance.

  • Brandon
    Jan. 16, 2010 10:53 a.m.

    Hey Jazz Cop... I dont know if you realized but they are on a 3 game winning streak? Its not just that magical moment they are riding on! Sure they were down! The Lakers lost 3 of 4... are they all the sudden a bad team? They have their problems but they arent a bad team.. they were in a slump.. they have worked hard to get out of it and are playing good basketball!

  • Jazz Cop
    Jan. 16, 2010 10:26 a.m.

    So, the jazz had a magical moment, does that suddenly make them a "good" team? The fans will get carried away believing that, but the players and coaches should know better. You can't overlook how much we've struggled. The magic moment is a good sign, but its not a cure for the reasons that the jazz aren't better than they really are. I don't think there's many people in the orginization who will want to push that magical moment further, measures can be taken, but if history is any indication, we'll see the jazz relapse tonight, they're going to come out like they're too good to have to get up for a game against milwaukee at home, and then after the jazz embarass themselves, i'll humiliate the players even more by pointing out everything they did that was wrong. even doug might say something negative about sloan, so you know, miracles happen everyday, nothing to get excited about.

  • Way to go Korver
    Jan. 16, 2010 10:15 a.m.

    Can't wait to see Korver's game when his knee heals all the way! He brings it with every ounce of strength he has. Korver is a hustle player. He knows how to pass the ball! He gives it all he's got when he's on the floor! He is a great leader! The fans love him and ticket sales should improve now that he's playing more!

  • John Wicks
    Jan. 16, 2010 10:15 a.m.

    Game should not have come down to last shot if the Jazz could make their free throws. James gets away with playing football on the court. It's a disgrace to the league. Tonight the Jazz blow out the Bucks.

  • Re: Doug
    Jan. 16, 2010 10:02 a.m.

    I'am predicting a loss in the 1st round of the playoffs like always unless Sloan starts using the bigs now to get them ready. When you go to the playoffs you better go big or stay home. Especially if you piddle around during the season trying to make small ball work and go in as the 8th seed against a taller longer Lakers team. By the way the Lakers brought in Kareem to tudor Bynum the last few years and Phil Jackson saw the importance of giving Bynum playing time to bring him along. 10-20 minutes a night. Fes's rooky year he out played Bynum when we beat the Lakers. ( Fes got a chance to play only because of injuries.)


  • Super Game
    Jan. 16, 2010 9:58 a.m.

    Great feat for the new kid! Terrific game for the guy with a gimpy leg too! He plays like crazy even when his shots don't go in the hole. Korver brings it off the bench! He plays smart ball! A great game overall for everyone! Way to go Jazz!

  • The Jazz do have heart!
    Jan. 16, 2010 9:55 a.m.

    Who says the Jazz don't have heart? There was plenty of heart Thursday night. What a show. The team did not give up. Everyone of them hung in there to the end. Nice to see Korver get some respect. He was awesome. Also fun to see the new kid realize his dream. Here's hoping they can keep up their energy over the next few games. Keep it going guys!

  • Invisible Man
    Jan. 16, 2010 9:41 a.m.

    The JAZZ will have a great game tonight and roll to an easy victory, thats the way Basketball works the Bucks are missing their top scoreer in Redd and they will play good in the first half down by 8 or 10, then the energy of the Jazz fans will wear them down. Thats the way it will happen they will ride the win the other night, I predict a 27 point victory.

    well it could happen that way?

    And on stopping Lebron James in the 4th he does it all the time its not a Jazz thing, well when he traveled to hit that step back three pointer after he missed his free throw, yea that giant step back without dribbling well that was a travel and that is one thing that makes him good is only a few players are allowed to do that and not get it called.

  • @JB
    Jan. 16, 2010 9:37 a.m.

    You have some good points. Mo Williams is just better and more experienced than either of the Jazz combo guards. Sloan did put Price in and that helped.

    Double teaming James would have left others open for 3s and cuts to the basket. About the only way to stop James was to foul him before he could shoot. That has it's own set of risks.

  • todd to doug
    Jan. 16, 2010 9:28 a.m.

    Doug, I respect people that have good logical takes, and that is why I miss Magnus even though like you he "was a Sloanaholic"

    You are not a veteran of these boards. You can say what you want. However, this defending of everything the Jazz do, everything Jerry, Kevin do it is with such vigor, I cannot help but wonder is there something in this for you?

    Sorry, that is my opinion. It does not mean one has to be always negative. I have been fair. I said O COnnor does a great job with "undrafted players". Heck, i even thought the 3 guys we cut that played In England were not bums either.

  • todd from santa ana
    Jan. 16, 2010 9:22 a.m.

    Brandon Jennings will be worth the price of admission and Andrew returns to Utah. Looking forward with eager anticipation of a fun night of NBA and high entertainment, for those of you going have a great time....

  • Doug
    Jan. 16, 2010 9:14 a.m.

    JB too bad you are not a familiar with the NBA. Perhaps your rosy idea of stopping LeBron in the fourth is something you should share with the other teams in the league. Charles Barkley is also out to lunch as he played for years and he said that LeBron is unstoppable in the 4th qtr. Not sure about your statement of making a few adjustments and overcoming James.

    Mr. Anonymous you are predicting a let down. Is that because you cannot live in the moment? The Jazz just came back on the team with the best record in the east and they did it with style with all people contributing, some outstanding and you predict a let down. How about a predicting a loss in the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs.

    The Jazz just enjoyed one of the best wins of the past 3 seasons and it should be enjoyed up til the tip off of their next game. Change your name to Eyore or chicken little.

  • Nevada fan
    Jan. 16, 2010 9:02 a.m.

    I have been hard on this guy (korver) great game and heart, and I apologize to all his fans. I am not completely sold on him, but if he keeps it up I am in. great game and hustle Korver.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 16, 2010 8:44 a.m.

    Loved that game...however, I predict a let down tonight

  • JB
    Jan. 16, 2010 8:28 a.m.

    great win & unbelievable shots by Gaines & Korver but we shouldn't have even been in that situation if Sloan could make a few adjustments. He was willing to just sit back & watch James torch us down the stretch & not double him. Also Mo was taking our point guards to school on the defensive end. How about a pick on the ball or screen roll to help our points out a little.

  • re: Nice Shot
    Jan. 16, 2010 8:16 a.m.

    I agree! That was missed by many and made the electrifying shot by Gaines possible.

    Also, kudos to KOC and Sloan for making the call to get this kid...

  • Nice shot, Mr. Korver
    Jan. 16, 2010 5:32 a.m.

    Much has been said about Gaine's winning shot, but let's give credit to the extremely difficult shot Korver nailed over the backboard to set that up!

  • ed greene
    Jan. 16, 2010 4:00 a.m.

    thats what the utah jazz is all About, giving the unknown player a shot at glory, and the jazz has been and still is the only team in the nba that teaches honor and character, which is all but gone anywhere.

  • JakeC
    Jan. 16, 2010 2:36 a.m.

    Sweet Win, now hopefully it can be backed up with a win against the Bucks!