Jazz finally fill empty roster spot with D-League's Gaines

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  • For those who say
    Jan. 6, 2010 12:34 p.m.

    that Fes is not worth the time. I would say nonsense.

    We have seen enough of Fes to realize that he is as good as Camby only a lot cheaper. Fes has not developed at all on offense yet but he changes the defense just by being in the game.

    Koufos is also a keeper. We saw enough of him early last year when both Boozer and Collins were out and Sloan had to play him. We saw a very young big who played D, ran the floor and is a rebounding machine. Sloan made a bad mistake by playing Collins instead of Koufos last year. Koufos would be doing a lot better this year if he had a lot of game experience last year.

    It may take a couple of years for his offense to develop. If he has gone backwards it says volumes about the Utah coaching.

    Sloan's VET bias loses games and loses games in the long run when the younger players are not developed. It also raises salary costs.

  • AK to NJ may
    Jan. 6, 2010 12:18 p.m.

    be feasible since NJ now has a Russian owner and AK has a large following in Russia just like Ming has a large following in China.

    The HOU owner has interests in China so Ming more than pays for his NBA salary by producing China profits.

    Trading AK for NJs draft pick is a good idea. It reduces Utah's money problem and gets Utah a great pick.

    However, NJ has about 58 mill in salary (That may have changed with Alston's buy out).

    It is more feasible to trade AK to NJ next year.

  • re:dddd
    Jan. 6, 2010 10:39 a.m.

    That would require Kevin O'Conner to actually do his job. He has no clue if you listened to his interview on 1320 he is a sloan apologists and wants everyone to know just how hard his job is and that we need to be patient. Take some chances. No risk no reward. These guys have quit on sloan and we are going to quit on sloan and o'conner by quit going to watch this mess.

  • Silly Fans
    Jan. 6, 2010 10:03 a.m.

    All of you have your shorts in a wad over our 13th player.

    Anyone that knows basketball knows this signing is not that big of deal but based on the comments too many of the clueless fans here believed we would be signing some allstar player somehow.

    Can you not see the signs? The Jazz made a trade to shed payroll. Why then would they turn around and add some big dollar player?

    If they do they will use the trade exceptions from the Maynor/Harpring trade before the deadline.

    This guy is just backup.

    It does look like he can score and this team needs offense right now in the worst way.

    In the last 10 games we are 27th in the league in offensive efficiency!!

    When Sloan gets the rotations nailed down they we will get some offensive efficiency going again.

    Painful to watch though right now.

  • ddddd
    Jan. 6, 2010 9:17 a.m.

    New Jersey just waived Rafer Alston so he could pursue opportunities with a playoff bound team in-essence.... Here is your replacement for Maynor. Let this Gaines kid ride out his 10 day contract while Alston clears waivers and sign Alston for the rest of the season at a prorated vets minimum contract. Two problems solved right there.

  • DeRon Williams
    Jan. 6, 2010 9:00 a.m.

    IS overpaid...Maynor was way better per dollar than Williams...with a chance to get even better...Williams is past his prime...not in age...in play...he walks the ball up the floor like an old MarK Jackson!

  • Go RSL!
    Jan. 6, 2010 3:45 a.m.

    At least there's a franchise in the state that wants to win a game or two....sheesh...

  • BP
    Jan. 6, 2010 12:32 a.m.

    I like Gaines. His shot looks pure, and he just seems to play like a winner. Plays a lot like Deron. I think there's a good chance he could stay.

    I wish the Jazz would sign Jefferson too. Never hurts to have even more competition at the 2 spot. Matthews is a great defender, but not quite good enough offensively for the long haul, Brewer is a stud but can't shoot, CJ can shoot but is still working on his consistency and toughness, Korver can be effective in our offense, but is not an all-around 2.

    Jefferson seems to have it all for a combo guard. He can shoot, even had a couple game winners. He's long, can jump out of building. Don't know how tough he is on D, but he is a pretty good shot blocker so that should tell us something. I think for minimum $ he would be a no-brainer to bring in and see how he does.

  • VegasJazzFan
    Jan. 6, 2010 12:21 a.m.

    I agree with "Stop saying Tank the season!"... regarding those who say, "trade AK" or trade a and b for c... or whatever. Realize that it's incredibly difficult to trade players with big contracts whose potential did not materialize enough. For example, it's more likely to be able to trade AK NEXT season during the last year of his contract. Those of you who were paying attention this past summer know that KOC *WAS* actively open to making big trades, but the few teams that were willing and able to do so were (of course) trying to get a really good deal (additionally, they knew the Jazz were in a bind salary-wise). By the way, I also agree with every word Chuck Nunn wrote earlier in this thread (and most everything he ever writes). "Peace out" back to ya Chuck, and to my other fellow Jazz fans here. Let's not give up on them just cuz they're having some troubles.

  • Gaine or a Loss?
    Jan. 6, 2010 12:05 a.m.

    You are wondering to yourself if we are gaining anything with a 6-1 point guard, who we know nothing about. The first thing we gain is less money spent on the salary luxury tax so give Kevin credit. The next thing is quickness and scoring ability, which is 30 points a game 10 more than Jefferson of the flash. We'll give the guy a chance (10 days), if it doesn't work out we'll write it as a loss.

  • TMAC for Kirlenko!
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:51 p.m.

    Last year Tracy McGrady was going to be traded to the Jazz for Andre Kirlenko. We should consider this since the Rockets are unhappy with TMac and we haven't had consistancy for Kirlenko. McGrady is recovering from knee surgery and is getting 7 minutes per game which is about what we're getting out of Andre even if he plays 30 minutes. j/k Trading Boozer is not the answer; I'm telling you he's THE GUY down low and having a decent season so far.

  • Stop saying Tank the season!
    Jan. 5, 2010 10:37 p.m.

    Tanking the season DOESNT HELP THE JAZZ AT ALL. we gave this year's draft pick AWAY. Get it through all of your skulls. This makes it even more important that we have a big trade during the season, because in the off season we have nothing! our knicks pick is not gonna be a lottery pick, boozer will be gone, but since the team is still like 8 million over the cap, that means we only free up 4 million dollars for next year, AND, we have to extend Brewer (arguable that we extend him i know, but if we do, there goes our 'extra money'). we need to trade NOW. every day that goes by that we dont trade is hurting the team more and more.

    and further more, no more ak trade ideas please. he makes more money than half of the all-stars in the league, and he doesn't even come close to their talen level, why would any team pay 16mil for him?! its just nonsense, and any trade idea involving AK is ridiculous.

  • Put Yourselves in his shoes
    Jan. 5, 2010 10:37 p.m.

    Common guys! Give the kid a break! He is so excited to be signed. Yes we are terrible, but we can't really get any worse. Besides, I'd rather loose and get a lottery pick. END OF LAST SEASON was what this Jazz team is, I cannot believe KOC did not make trades in the summer. Unbelievable .... really

  • T-ravis
    Jan. 5, 2010 10:37 p.m.

    Trade AK and Boozer for TMac. Throw the rest of the season and get a lottery pick. (And hope and pray the Knicks get one to.) Let TMac go at the end of the season and free up salary space. Use the two lottery picks and draft some interior defense and outside shooting. And if we can, get a decent free agent.

  • Gretkzy - correction
    Jan. 5, 2010 10:36 p.m.

    $457,588 (approximate league minimum '09-'10) divided by 365 days x 10 day contract = $12,536.66. still not bad for 10 days' work.

  • Gretkzy
    Jan. 5, 2010 10:33 p.m.

    $743,000 (approximate league minimum) divided by 365 days x 10 day contract = $20,356.16. not bad for 10 days work.

  • Tank the season
    Jan. 5, 2010 8:53 p.m.

    Do It! Do It! Do It!

  • Darin Pitt
    Jan. 5, 2010 8:52 p.m.

    Why would the Nets want AK to be the main player of the team when he showed he couldn't be the main player of our team?

  • Buying time
    Jan. 5, 2010 6:56 p.m.

    This move buys time and saves money.

    If the Jazz could trade AK for some combination of Brooks Lopez, Courtney Lee and Rafer Alston plus parts that would really help the Jazz.

    Alston is not a great shooter but he can run a team and has a lot of playoff experience. Lopez would make Boozer expendable as Okur could rotate at PF with Millsap.

    Courtney Lee is a wing who can shoot.

    The salaries would be hard to match up but if NJ wanted AK bad enough they could find a way.

    The 10 day contract give the Jazz a lot of flex while they get a good look at Gaines. In the mean time Jefferson is learning the system with the Flash.

    Gains could eventually replace Price for a lot less.

  • Chuck Nunn
    Jan. 5, 2010 6:49 p.m.

    I would have liked to see Jefferson get the nod, but I like Gaines too, and I look for him to stick with the Jazz for the rest of the season barring some kind of trade for a veteran NBA guard. But to the guy who say's Fesenko isn't a project worth doing and is calling for Jaycee Carroll, man, that's just nuts. I'm sorry, but when you have an athletic, well-muscled 7-footer wasting away on the bench, that's a big problem, and the Jazz have won a better percentage of games with him than without him. Carroll can shoot the ball and has a lot of heart, but he's a lot better off in Europe, as I have my doubts that he can defend in the NBA.

    Peace out from the Jazz Oracle!

  • BP @ KK and Miles
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:46 p.m.

    Sensible comments. I agree. This move was either:

    1) to buy time to make a different move

    2) or to simply have enough players

    Either way, it is inconsequential. But this kid is pretty good. He is better than Maynor and has more experience. I love Price, but I still think we need a backup PG and let Price come in when we need a defensive or offensive explosion for a few minutes. Maybe the Jazz got rid of Maynor, knowing that this kid and others were attainable. Pretty hard to keep Maynor when you can replace him and still save $13Million. I liked Maynor, but he wasn't great on defense, not a pure shooter, and needed to get bigger. All things he can master, and probably will master, but when? We have enough guys with potential.

  • k-sun
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:43 p.m.

    I saw Gaines play against the Flash - he was so much quicker than anything the Flash had. So, in head-to-head with Jefferson, I think Gaines wins.

  • Cause
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:36 p.m.

    KOC and Sloan have got to go out the door, followed by everybody except D-Will, Matthews, Millsap and the trainer.

  • fossil
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:23 p.m.

    don't fret the small stuff. we will get the number on pick from NJ for AK and get john wall the best point guard to be drafted in years and have the best one two point guards in the league.
    stay glad we have a major team its the only game in town. thanks miller, we will suppot ya.

  • Tank
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:21 p.m.

    The Jazz are playing awful and I would rather have a lottery pick than the 8 seed in the playoffs. Trade Boozer, Okur, and Korver for Jermaine O'Neal and a draft pick. They save 3 million and aren't stuck with Okur's contract extension, which was stupid. Then they actually have an excuse for losing.

  • KK
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:18 p.m.

    D-league is just the D-league. It's like double A ball because any decent talent is actually overseas. You say his stats are impressive? Look at Morris Almond. He is ripping it up down there in the D-league, 28.9 pts and 5.5 rebs a game, but still isn't good enough to be on any NBA team. It's just a move to get to 13 players is all. Jazz have a lot of season left to play. I still support the team, I just hope they figure it out soon before it is too late.

  • BOOOOOO!!!!
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:17 p.m.

    What the heck are you thinking KOC? I make a vote: for every day that is wasted with the same core of this worthless team, KOC has to reimburse the fans tickets from his own wallet. That will get his butt up off the couch and moving.

  • So What?
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:55 p.m.

    So What?

  • KOC
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:28 p.m.

    Whew! Now I don't have to make a trade.

  • SWEET!
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:27 p.m.

    Well this should save the season. I bet he can get all the lazy overpaid bums to gel and start earning their paychecks. I know he'll at least get them to play some defense. The season is saved!!! Go ahead and pencil us in as the 2010 NBA Champions!!!

  • Gaines is an outstanding
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:39 p.m.

    athelete and player. If given a chance he would stick!

    But that must only be the beginning for these Jazz changes!

  • jazzman72
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:32 p.m.

    Hooray! He's the missing piece to the puzzle! Utah Jazz 2010 NBA championship!

  • Epic Fail Jazz!
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:28 p.m.

    why didnt we pick up mikki moore! a hard-playing veteran back up center that we NEED! we dont need a 3rd point guard. AK, brewer, and miles can all run the point if we absolutely needed something there temporarily. we need defense in the paint. wow, cant believe this. what a lazy move.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:18 p.m.

    This is the move? Why haven't we traded our soft euros? Why do we have players on our roster that fail to get better? They should do a complete overhaul and start from scratch, even if that means trading D-will. This current roster can't compete for the playoffs. I say trade whatever we can for the 1st pick so we can get Mr. Wall. Then build around him and get some defensive minded players in here.

  • Darin Pitt
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:17 p.m.

    This move will have zero affect on the Jazz. This Gaines kid will only play for the last minutes of blow outs. No need to waste any other space on covering this story.

  • TRADE!!!!!
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:59 p.m.

    Please, for the love of your fans, make some changes to this team! I'm so tired of watching 4-5 minutes of defense per game. The Jazz come out and go through the motions until the very last part of the game. Then they finally play like they want to win. The Jazz win games against teams that are also just going through the motions. Then they lose to any team that plays hard. Pathetic!!!!

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:45 p.m.

    What the!!!! I hope a big trade in the future or im done with the Jazz!

  • Trade somebody please
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:34 p.m.

    I for one, would like to see the Jazz make a huge trade, gut the team. AK and Boozer have huge contracts, so nobody wants them. Sweeten the deal. Give them anybody else they want to get rid of the dead weight. I don't care if you have to sign 12 more players from the D- League. It is time to move the dead weight and start over! Start over please! The 8th spot in the playoffs is not worth fighting for. You probably won't get it anyway. I don't care if we have to resign Greg Ostertag and go get Travis Hansen and Jaycee Carroll. I think we should have signed Jaycee Carroll. Players I would prefer getting rid of along with AK & Boozer who absolutley should go.

    1. Korver- he is done anyway. Jazz brought him in to shoot the ball. Which he is not doing.

    2. Fes- a project not worth doing.

    3. Okur- we know what he can do, he just doesn't do it enough

    4. Miles- Highlights yes, defense no.

    5. Brewer- Highlights yes, shooting no.

    6. Price- he will go for 30 against us.

    Milsap, Williams, and new guys.

  • The Truth
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:34 p.m.

    The Jazz can release this kid at the end of his 10 day contract and then wait another 2 or 3 weeks before signing another player thus saving them even more cash!! Wait some breaking news, this player is 3-13 on the three point line the last 3 games, looks like more of the same Jazz fans. He has also averaged 7 TO's the last three games as well. Looks like he will fit right in with what we got, another player that can't stroke it!! Is he athletic, cause you know that's going to count against him!!

  • Confused
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:25 p.m.

    Too bad we can not "Pick up" a GM like you can a player.

    I would not wish KOC on a D-League team..

    KOC has done the worse job in NBA history. He has sunk the Jazz season.

    What happen Greg Miller to the "I will pay the price" for the Championship"?

  • die hard
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:18 p.m.

    Bandaids on a severed limb?
    Make the trade, And as much as I thought I would never say it throw in AK if thats what it takes? I can't believe I really just said that???
    Bottom line, Deron and Jerry deserve it so quit screwing around and do something!!

  • 10 contract
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:18 p.m.

    This is an audition. There may be more.

    The Jazz know exactly what they have in Jefferson. There is no need to audition Jefferson for 10 days.

    Gaines can shoot. He is tough. Can he play on the NBA level?

    He looks like a cheap version of Price with maybe a better shot. He might solve some of the shooting problem in the short run. All it takes is 2 or 3 outside shots to open up the middle.

    He buys time for Korver to heal. He has potential. If he does not work get another audition.

    IF DWill can't go he is insurance at PG.

    The Jazz do not need to panic into a bad trade. This kid is either a long term replacement for Price or a 10 insurance policy. He is not the solution to the Jazz offensive problems. He may be as good as Maynor in the long run.

    Wait 10 days and see what you have.

    In the mean time Sloan has to figure out how to win with the current players and what is left of his system.

  • wow
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    what the? jazz you need some help.... maynor was great!!!! good luck new guy......

  • Miles
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    Good move KOC. a ten day contract to a bench player. It buys him time to try and find something better or to do a trade later and not be locked to a season-long contract. As far as I am concerned, it didn't matter who he signed, they are not playing.

    For those who don't like this move, too bad.

  • Ex-Jazz Fan
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:39 p.m.

    that's great! We get another player that Sloan won't play. I would bench all the starters and play the younger players. What have we got to loose. We are loosing anyway. We ought to see what they can do so we can determine if we want to keep them of get some one else. We seem to just fill up roster spots with players that won't get to play. This year is a joke. The joke will be on the Miller family when the season tickets don't sell next year. I'm not sure what needs to happen but when you do what you always do you will get the same results that you always get. Good luck Jazz. I hope you at least get the lottery pick.

  • St.GeorgeJazzfan
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:35 p.m.

    6'1'' ?? Don't know who this guy is, so not going to comment on him ...but is he really better than the other guy from the flash that had some size? Looks like they just went out and got a guy who will fill the 13th player spot rather than someone that can actually help this team.

  • ???
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:28 p.m.

    This kid better be ready to come out and play!! not only play but play hard!! Bring some energy to the team!! good luck Gaines

  • jumpinjax
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:24 p.m.

    wow,our season is saved!!!!!

  • I love this pick up!!!!
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:22 p.m.

    This is too funny. The Jazz have officially hit rock bottom. Hahaha, I love it, Hahaha, I'm laighing so hard,I cannot breathe!!!

    Before you know it, the Jazz will be a D-Laegue team as well. The West Valley Blues, baby!!!

  • Michael
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:21 p.m.

    Who knows, maybe this Gaines kid ends up being a better player then Price. His stats are definitely impressive. He might be thrown to the fire right away if D-Will can't play.

    I still think a trade(s) is in the works however before the deadline.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:18 p.m.

    Who's this guy? Should've signed Jefferson. The Jazz better make a trade soon or it's over this season for the franchise.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:16 p.m.

    Has anyone else noticed that since trading Maynor the Jazz are 1-4 and the bench has been terrible?

  • todd from santa ana
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:13 p.m.

    Maybe a good move who knows. Better than the old guard, good Kevin for once....But let us see now if he can or will be given "chance to play"

    He was on that Georgia team that went like 7-20 and won the Southeastern Conference Tournament, when that tornado nearly blew the building the tournament was at...

  • SnedWatch
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:11 p.m.

    Boring. Way to delay the inevitable. We don't need the Knick's pick. We will go get it ourselves.

  • Cowboy Joe to Todd
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:09 p.m.

    KOC listened to you. He took your man. Now can you tell him to tank the season so we can get JOHN WALL.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:08 p.m.

    no! no! no! BOOOO!!!! Fire KOC!! Lazy, terrible! BOOOO!!!!