Utah Jazz: Trade rumors swirl around struggling team

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  • Anonymous
    Jan. 17, 2010 10:08 p.m.

    Trade booZer pick up chris bosh bosh who is good friends with dwill

  • re: Todd, AKA Hateaholic
    Jan. 7, 2010 6:29 p.m.

    It's time for a vacation. Please move to an uninhabited island, with nothing for entertainment except for tapes of old Jazz tapes and sloan interviews.

  • re apietman
    Jan. 6, 2010 2:46 p.m.

    agree completely

  • wait a minute,
    Jan. 6, 2010 2:20 p.m.

    Most people's solutions for the Jazz's woes are pretty ridiculous. Sloan isn't going anywhere. Regardless of if he's at fault or not; he has earned the right to say when he leaves. The second problem we run into is who are we actually going to trade for? Even if we're just clearing out space on the payroll for next year... who's to say there will be anybody worth signing? Kevin O'Connor has consistently made smart moves that benefit the Jazz. We'll come out of the woods eventually.

    As far as I'm concerned forget about Boozer. He's playing really well and can help us THIS season. If he leaves we get cap room if he stays then we get a solid player with a good attitude. Trading him is a brash move and would seem to limit possible positives.

    The reason why Sloan's system isn't working is because we need the type of players who are willing to play hard. We need more Adam Keefes, Bryon Russells, Matt Harprings, WES MATTHEWS or whoever else is willing to play hard.

  • re:bobyjoe
    Jan. 6, 2010 10:44 a.m.

    you must be sloans cousin or coffee buddy. you must think he is a amazing from all the stories of him saying, back in my day we worked so hard and so on and so on. Get a clue.

  • Kevin in the Terrace
    Jan. 6, 2010 10:29 a.m.

    Why don't they ask Kirilenko to re-negotiate his contract? I guess I would not give up the 18 million either but hey they guy has not lived up to the contract.

  • country boy
    Jan. 6, 2010 9:22 a.m.

    I got a idea trade the coach and gm to the nets, and hire a new coach and gm....equals champenship.

  • Idaho Fan
    Jan. 6, 2010 8:55 a.m.

    I really like AK as a player. He plays with energy, blocks shots and works hard at his game. The thing I don't understand though is: Why doesn't he volunteer to restructure his contract to free up some money to help the jazz get a decent player to help them win?

    I think that $8 million could get a decent player and that $8 million would be enough for him to live on. I know that I could put food on my table with that amount. In addition, it would show AK in better light.

    Would someone please show me the faultiness of my thinking?

  • BobyJoe
    Jan. 6, 2010 7:43 a.m.

    Matthew is the best young talent in the western conference! He and Wall will be our franchise players! Keep Sloan.

  • Fedor
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:16 p.m.

    OK, maybe not nets. I forget that their current team isn't their past. To say I give b-ball fans bad name.....you pick out one thing and I give b-ball fans bad name? You give comedian bad name.

  • todd 847 post
    Jan. 5, 2010 10:20 p.m.

    I am on the floor, they are trying to revive me, please pass the Salt and a kleenex.

    I cannot stop, calling Mr Magoo..

    Sloan and O Connor great we would be lost after "10 minutes"

    great comedy

    free also, i got to say bye to Bugs Bunny

  • Please, please, please
    Jan. 5, 2010 10:14 p.m.

    Rid the Jazz of Memo. He ain't "Money." All he's doing is standing in the soup line, for pete's sake.

  • re:Fedor
    Jan. 5, 2010 9:31 p.m.

    To your comment, "These teams have been bad for the last decade", The Nets went to the Finals twice the last decade. You truly give basketball fans a bad name.

  • Darin Pitt
    Jan. 5, 2010 9:03 p.m.

    An important thing to remember is it is difficult for the Jazz to get top flight free agents to sign in Utah without overpaying them (see Okur and Boozer.) No way any of the top free agents next summer sign in Utah (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, etc.)

  • Good thing you don't run the jaz
    Jan. 5, 2010 8:47 p.m.

    The Jazz are struggling, but it definately could be worse if all you people were the G.M.'s, presidents, owners, and coaches. oooohhh, don't even want to think about that, The jazz would be done for after the first game, Deron's the best point guard in the NBA, Coach Sloan is the best Coach, and quit running our twenty ten player our of utah. get rid of AK, and give boozer his money, or go get chris bosh or someone over the summer.

  • I Miss Larry
    Jan. 5, 2010 8:21 p.m.

    big time......if Larry were around...he would fire Greg Miller!

    C'mon Greg...trade booz, brewer, okur, ak and go after josh smith, kevin martin, iguodala, granger....get it done!

  • Solution is simple
    Jan. 5, 2010 8:10 p.m.

    Make the following trades:

    Brewer for Wade
    CJ for LeBron
    Boozer for Bosh
    OKur for Howard
    Sloan for Popovich

    KOC, make it happen!

  • Bob
    Jan. 5, 2010 7:57 p.m.

    They need to think about trading Sloan, his time has come its the same old story every year. Yes he's a good coach but he needs to retire and move on let some new blood in and change things. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

  • Don't worry
    Jan. 5, 2010 7:07 p.m.

    Don't worry. The Jazz will pull out of this slump. It happens every year. A new player to spark would help if we didn't have to sacrifice to much.

  • re:Change
    Jan. 5, 2010 6:24 p.m.

    And changing coaches won't make Okur any faster or Boozer play better defense, or make the Jazz more athletic and longer. It's obvious the problem lies with the team makeup and other than Williams, the Jazz should look into getting some new blood in town (not talking about the 3rd string pg).

  • @RealProblem
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:35 p.m.

    You have 1/2 of it right. If you got a good traditional C and a shooting wing you would have a team that would be 4th or maybe 3rd in the West.

    However, please do not pretend that changing players will fix all of the problems with the Sloan offense.

    The offense is rapidly becoming outdated by changes in the defenses of many NBA teams.

    If you were lucky enough to get the right players you would still be stuck will all of Sloan's quirks that insure the Jazz will NEVER sniff a championship.

    You can continue the charade for a few more years until Sloan retires IF you get the right players but it is still a charade that is harder to maintain.

    Why is Sloan so indispensible to the Jazz? What do the Jazz have to lose by replacing him? What do the Jazz have to gain?

    On balance the Jazz have a better chance with the right new coach.

    Sloan's coaching experience is a negative at this point. He has 18 years of losing road records and now he is losing at home.

  • Fedor
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:27 p.m.

    Todd I think you are right to root for Memphis or any team who plays Jazz right now. Until this team show fans they care, we will show our displeasure by turning our backs to them.

    Some may ask, "But Fedor, your faith in RSL never waivered!!" Yes, this is true. But Jazz own this city and the hearts of every Jazz fan out there. They have been around forever. They have lot of money....corner on the fans hard earned dollar. So they deserve our most critique....our harshest words....why? Because we love them. This is how it goes for those who have true passion for their teams. Now, RSL, yes, at times they make Fedor very angry, but they are young, young coach and are working on something bigger. They don't get paid with 15 million dollar per year contracts.

    Anyway, Todd, keep putting the BP in his place. His claims are outrageous and I know my friend that he could never match your passion for this team.

    Let's hope the Jazz come out of funk. You never know in this NBA.

  • Sloan For Westphal
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:27 p.m.

    Thats as ridiculous as about 75% of the trades purposed by you fans. I do believe however that this team has quit Sloan. Like it or not it's the truth. Now what are they going to do? Well the Miller family better sit down fast and think about their investment because I will tell you for sure the fans will leave. I remember when the Jazz first moved here, I went to alot of games after deciding at work to go. Seats were available all over the stadium. That might just happen again what with this economy and the price of these tickets today. You had better think about this Millers and quick!

  • @Love
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:25 p.m.

    Sorry I do not buy it. Sloan is an above average coach who won at home enough to make the playoffs consistently. That was adequate for LHM who loved to have a team and a full stadium.

    Utah has out grown that phase of the Jazz. Now Sloan can win on the road or at home and the stands are not full. Plus the salaries are out of whack. Worse the fans realize that the Jazz have the same weaknesses year after year and are getting worse while management insists on not fixing the problems.

    It is time for a change. You can't rebuild and move forward without a new coach and approach to the game. Sloan will never win a title from here, even a Western Conf title.

  • Doug
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:23 p.m.

    Lots of ideas and some had merit and others flat out did not.

    I think Hornaceks mother wrote one asking the Jazz to replace Sloan with Hornny. I think he is sole responsible for AK's shooting or lack thereof. Last season AK made 10% of his shots and somebody wants Hornny to coach the entire team. Let get Malone back to be the pr guy.

    Jazz are in a tough place and playing really well is the best way out of the current situation.

    I begin to doubt that Jerry is the coach to do it though. He did take the team to the finals twice or did he take 2 players and some wannabes to the finals?

    Would Phil Jackson have conceivable won even one more title had he stayed in Chicago? I think the same is true for Jerry. He is not being listened to and so he is not able to direct or coach or deal with the players level of confusion. To let him continue is to hope for a better crop than you planted. Not going to happen.

  • @Young
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:17 p.m.

    You are right the interior D is poor. However improving that requires trading Okur and/or Boozer. That would have already been done if the right trade were feasible.

    The Jazz do not get back quick on D. That is also the bigs not getting back quick.

    However, the D is slightly better than last year. The offense has tanked this year.

    You either have to dramatically improve the D or the O. Dramatically improving the D requires trades at PF/C and I do not expect the Jazz to be willing to do that unless they get a great trade for Boozer.

    It is much easier for Sloan to change the offense. Which has has many times in the past (most people just did not realize he made changes).

    How many pick and rolls have the Jazz run this year? Very few. Why?

    Most NBA defenses can now stop the Jazz pick and roll. The Stockton Malone offense is far different from the Jazz offense of today.

  • Lee
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:10 p.m.

    The Jazz could trade for Lee's expiring contract. They could package expiring contracts for Lee but NY would want something back.

    Lee can be bought next summer if he is the right solution. I think he is good but will not take the Jazz to a championship. He could replace Boozer for 2 mill less.

  • Fedor
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:09 p.m.

    People are funny. If you critique team you are "so called fan." That is fans job...wouldn't be a fan if we didn't have some takes on how they could be better. Right or wrong.

    Fes and Kuf lovers stop. Your suggestions hurt my reading eyes. We can't "Blow up team" either. This is lost year my friends. If we play addition by subtraction (get something for Boozer or finally get rid of AK, worst contract ever) we'll get a couple young draft picks and hope for best.

    Remember this Jazz fan.....we aren't the Knicks, the Nets, the Bucks, the Warriors. These teams, with a few exceptions, have been awful for a decade. We had two "transition" years and were back in it. KOC is good. Greg Miller is learning ropes. If young players won't play for Jerry, that reputation will carry with them all over NBA. Jerry has most respect along with Phil and Popp. This is good/bad for Jazz.

    Best way to extend your displeasure is to take away dollars. Don't buy seats, don't buy merchandise, turn off the TV. Jazz will hear that.

  • Hugh G. Hater
    Jan. 5, 2010 5:01 p.m.

    I love how sloan totally spun the situation: "When you loose a couple of games . . ."

    No coach, when you have a pathetic playoff/road record that starts becoming a pathetic home record you have problems.

    Fact: The coach has stayed the same for 22 years. Players have come and gone. No championship. What makes you think more player shuffling will help at this point?

  • Sad
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:51 p.m.

    Unload some people for McGrady.

    It's time to blow it all up.

    Call me when there's been a change.

    Jan. 5, 2010 4:50 p.m.

    as long as Okur patrols the paint under the hoop the jazz will go nowhere. as of today it looks like that will be the lottery. The ideal situation is to trade Kirilenko, Boozer and Okur. We can most likely get something for them expiring contract etc. bring Fes and Koufos in to play the minutes at center. Both can defend, both are big and both have offensive ability. I think Miles has to go. I watched him stand there as Chris Paul scored to basically put the game away. He did not help or rotate and that is the problem with this team. Miles can score but so can Matthews and he can play D.

  • Real Problem
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:48 p.m.

    The real problem with the Jazz is the same one we've seen for the last few years. 1)The Jazz have no big man who can play defense and 2) they lack a shooter(if Korver ever returns to his early 2008 form then that problem may be solved).

    That's the bottom line. The problem isn't Sloan or Williams. I would almost welcome (gulp) Ostertag back if it helped the Jazz play better defense.


  • lets trade
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:23 p.m.

    for the lakers

  • please..
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:23 p.m.

    You guys that keep complaining about milsaps contract need to remember that it was front loaded by the trailblazers... after this year we have him for 6m/year for 3 years.. a good deal after this year.

    Trade boozer already so milsap can get the playing time he needs. Its clear that boozer lacks heart and only plays halfhearted basketball, he is content with just earning his paycheck.. i hope the reason he is logging so much playing time, is because they are trying to showcase him an trade him. We were playing good basketball last year with this same team untill boozer game back.

    As for you people blaming Dwill you all are living in a dream world. He is one of the best point guards in the NBA period! Yes he has struggled some lately with turnovers, but perhaps he is trying to hard. If he could get anyone on this team to make a layup or able to shoot and make a basket from 1-2 feet from the basket we would be just fine. Last nights game was a perfect example.. guys were throwing brick after brick from under the basket. Was hard to watch!

  • Blow it up!
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:21 p.m.

    The Jazz should keep Williams, Okur, Millsap and Brewer. Anyone else can go. Boozer is playing well and the Jazz should trade him while they can before he gets injured again.

  • Also keep....
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:11 p.m.

    Millsap, Matthews, Brewer. Trade anyone else.

  • I like AK But...
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:11 p.m.

    I like AK, but his contract is killing the Jazz. I would say you trade CJ, AK, and Kyle Korver for T-Mac. This would be a real gamble this season, but it would pay off next season. At the end of the season win or lose Boozer's and T-Macs contracts would come off the books. This would give Utah a huge amount of cap room to go and spend in a very good free agent market.

    I also wouldn't be against moving the Knicks pick and Boozer for Chris Bosh. This would give us the bird rights to Bosh, meaning we could give him more money to stay in Utah and play with D-Will.

  • Lo Porto
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:08 p.m.

    This message is for KOC - the fans are so tired of this team that some are starting to turn on our franchise player Deron. If you don't do something soon, you're going to lose fans and the remaining fans will start questioning every player on the roster. The next thing you know, we'll be the Knicks.

    A trade has to be done. I'm fine trading away anybody but Deron, Price, Matthews and Millsap. I like how those guys play for the contracts they make.

  • Hoops
    Jan. 5, 2010 4:00 p.m.

    The problem is that AK's worth will only serve the Jazz next year. If we can entice a team to take him now, I am afraid we'll have to give up the Knicks' pick in the process. Is it worth it?

  • todd from santa ana
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:58 p.m.

    BY the way in case you did not hear.. Sloan stinks.'

  • todd to love the jazz and coach
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:53 p.m.


    Do not waste our times, go back watching old reruns-please spare us. Next time i see that type of text I will just move on to the next post

  • plyxply
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:52 p.m.

    needs; shot blocking center, 2 who can shoot the 3 and play defense.
    Dump Brewer, Okur, Miles, AK, and KK for a 2 guard as described above.
    Keep Boozer and expiring contract, DWill, play Fes....he can't be worse than Ostertag and he's cheap, and Matthews.
    If we keep losing we have two lottery picks to deal and if we win great, we've got two cheap contracts, a lottery pick, and cap space in a down market in the off-season.

  • Miles
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:31 p.m.

    It is so obvious that since we cut Collins loose that the team has not been the same. Bring Collins back and all will be well.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:30 p.m.

    I think we should trade for Tracy MCgrady i just see something happening with him on the team +

  • Invisible Man
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:15 p.m.

    What we need to do is develop a machine that can clone people, and then get the basket ball greats that have retired and still living and have them donate their DNA to the cause to get a championship for the Jazz. So we get STOCKTEN and MALONE because they know Coach Sloan, so we have our PG, PF, ready to go, so we get KAREEM at the Center, and yes we have to get MJ at the SG, and then at the SF we get yes BIRD who else, how’s that for a starting 5. Then to round it out we get BARKLEY, OLAJUWON, CLYDE THE GLIDE, BILL RUSSEL, MAGIC, WALT FRAZIER, and I have always wanted to see OSCAR ROBINSON play, so there is our twelve, but we need thirteen so let’s bring in ML CARR to fortify the towel waving to get everyone going.
    So there we have it problem solved, I think these players would agree to this just to show this young group of Basketball Players how to be tough and play ball.
    You might think this is farfetched; but it’s more realistic then what I have been reading on this blog

  • Darin Pitt
    Jan. 5, 2010 3:15 p.m.

    With the Jazz resigning Millsap for so much it is time to give him the playing time that Boozer is eating up. The trade that makes the most sense is still to trade Boozer. I understand that it is difficult to get a trade done, but if the Jazz do not trade Boozer before the trade deadline for an expiring deal, I will be dissapointed. I don't think it is as benificial to keep Boozer to just let his contract expire. We can still let that happen by trading him for someone who's contract is also expiring.

  • love the utah jazz and Sloan
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:56 p.m.

    Sloan is an amazing coach. You need to realize that. I will always love the Utah Jazz and will always be faithful and believe in the organization. Utah's the loudest arena in the NBA and there is a reason for that. They have had a struggle, but they are working hard and will end up having an successful season. Whether you want to admit it or not, Jerry Sloan is an amazing coach, Williams and every Utah jazz player are amazing and will all be very successful. The administrators, managers and coaches know more than we or at least I do about trading, and I believe they will do the right things and help the Utah jazz reach their potential.

  • Darin Pitt
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:46 p.m.

    I agree with others here that KOC is working on deals, but making a legit trade in today's NBA is very difficult. How many teams actually want to take on payroll? There was maybe one - Oklahoma and that is who the Jazz have all ready made a trade with! There are various other teams that are trying to shed contracts as well, so it would be best not to make a panic trade.
    Probably the most legit thing for the Jazz to do is try to use Korver's EC and Boozer or AK and trade for another huge EC like T-Mac, but that does nothing to help the Jazz this year. I also don't see why the Rockets would want either because they have very little chance of resigning Boozer and AK does the same thing that Shane Battier and Carl Landry do for cheaper.

  • Switch Time
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:36 p.m.

    When the Jazz had Fisher they make it to the Western Conference finals...

    News flash Jazz we need a shooting guard who can SHOOT! and play defense.

    I had a good feeling about this year when we didnt resign collins big body, but this team has problems...

    About trades I am not going to even get my hopes up cause they wont change a thing have a good enough year to not get a good draft pick and lose tons of money...

    The players I would trade are Boozer, Korver (sorry girls who love his pink jerseys), Fez. As for AK lets give him some playing time at PF and see what happens.

    Biggest Jazz Problem--- Jerry Sloan and his 30 year old system. Drop him please

  • die hard
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:28 p.m.

    After what the Jazz have done to AK it's no wonder he isn't getting it done! Put him in the dang starting lineup and set Boozers lazy butt on the bench. Give AK 40 mins a game and put the pressure back on him. Right now he is just showing up and with the in decision about starting him and playing time from the coaches it's no wonder? They play him like they don't expect anything from him?
    I never thought I would say this but if you have to trade him DO IT....OR light a fire under him!

  • Jazz need to lose big
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:27 p.m.

    The problem with the Jazz is that they aren't losing enough. New Jersey has it figured out. Stop trying to win a conference and start trying to win a championship. Rebuild through losing (it is the Democratic way). What's a few years of futility. Of course, you'll have to fire Sloan since there is no way that guy loses 60+ games.

  • The Truth
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:24 p.m.

    I get where Jerry is coming from, he is like what 70 years old. I wouldn't want to have to change anything at this point in the season if I was 70. That would mean more work teaching his system to new players etc. Keeping Booz on the roster will probably get you above .500 for the year and maybe the team ends up being a 7 or 8 seed and Jerry can sign a contract extension next year. Go Jerry, you got to love your pay check attitude!!

    On the AK front he was paid as if he was going to be the central piece that the Jazz were going to build around, then they signed Carlos and AK hasn't been the same since. Even Carlos stated publicly that he didn't think AK and him could play on the same team because they play the same position. AK is in the wrong system with the wrong coach. I wish the trade to Phoenix would have happened for AK's sake. The bigger issue is the Jazz have overvalued their own talent that's the main reason for this mess!!

  • Change
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:15 p.m.

    Please get us a new coach. His time is up. Time to retire. Changing the players will not help with the sloan system.

  • apietman
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:09 p.m.

    AK should be able to play outside the system, especially on defense, Sloan has been slowing down his ability to constantly disrupt opposing offenses. Then on offense he should be used more like a point fwd when Dwill is on the bench.

  • the tipping point
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:09 p.m.

    has arrived. jazz mgmt. must address fans. honestly. swiftly. with a specific plan to address the crisis.

    otherwise this turns into a PR blunder bigger than tiger-gate.

  • Fredd
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:08 p.m.

    Millsap's contract was front loaded. So after this year he is a good deal.

  • The Jazz need to...
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:07 p.m.

    tank this garbage season and hope for the number one draft pick (likely 'Wall' from Kentucky). After they draft 'Wall' they need to trade the soft, turnover-machine (AKA D-Will) away for other picks or a decent center; he is not a leader.

    Loozer will be off the books after this year, Brewer too, 'Bum-Knee...er...Korver' also and M-16/"Free-pass" (aka AK-47) won't be far behind.

    There would still be a good nucleus even without those clowns. I think it would be a shame to let Matthews get away, Milsap is serviceable at the 4 spot, Fes should start over Okur and I think there might still be hope for CJ.

    Under this scenario next years' starting line-up could be:

    1: Wall
    2: Matthews
    3: CJ
    4: Milsap
    5: Fesenko

    Bench: Price, Koufos, AK (final year), Okur, 2nd rd. pick, extra 1st rd. pick (in lieu of D-Will trade) and a mid-level free agent.

    This starting lineup is athletic, will play defense, has a potential shot-blocker and OMG have you seen 'Wall' play??? The dude is a straight-up killer and a leader! Make this happen Jazz!

  • todd from santa ana
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:05 p.m.

    If I were Sloan (anyone can do better), Who will guard Conley with DWILL out. Start tomorrow Price, put Gaines in fire right away to back Ronnie. Kid might have some good hops. Matthews Millsap ,Boozer and Fes to start. If Paul has problem with Gay then insert Brewer. Okur can come in off the bench provide much critical offense which is needed there, and maybe can get out of his fog and low clouds//

  • Hello
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:05 p.m.

    When was the last time the Jazz ever made a trade worth anything? Everyone needs to stop hoping and realize that status quo means the same coach for 20+ years, a 5-8 playoff seeding, and first round draft picks sitting on the bench or struggling for a few years until the Jazz get rid of them. NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE AND NO TRADE OF CONSEQUENCE WILL BE MADE. NOW GET BACK TO WORK.

  • The answer
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:05 p.m.

    New coach

  • Miles
    Jan. 5, 2010 2:01 p.m.

    @saintmichaelpray: Didn't the Yankees just win another championship?

    This team has just become a "Me" first team with Dwill running it.

    Memo is doing nothing at the 5.

    Brewer can't hit a jumpshot.

    AK doesn't know what he is suppose to do.

    Price shouldn't even be in the NBA

    CJ doesn't have a clue what Jerry wants

    Matthews is the most over-rated Jazz player in history

    Boozer is playing nice because he wants to look like a team player for a fat contract next year

    Millsap looks like a guy who just got a fat contract.

  • Hank
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:51 p.m.

    Those of you who say just let Boozer go at the end of the season don't get it. The issue isn't the cap, it's the luxury tax! If we keep Boozer until the end of the season, we will have to pay the luxury tax. Trading him before the season will save the team a lot of money. That's why they traded Harpring and Maynor -- to save money! That trade saved the team about $10 million. Right now, for the Jazz it's not really about winning. They tried with this group, realized they won't be better than the eight seed, so they are trying to save money. That's why you'll see more trades like Harpring/Maynor. They will hurt the team basketball wise, but help them financially. You watch -- Boozer will get traded for a second round draft choice or the equivalent before the trade deadline. It's all about avoiding that luxury tax!

  • What?
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:36 p.m.

    Mathews is a thorn? The one guy on the roster who doesn't even make a million?Get rid of CJ.Since he regained his starting position we all know what has happened.And everyone do you realize Kirilenko was an allstar the year he got his contract? What psition did he play then?oh ya PF!!trade Boozer move Kirilenko back to PF where he can get his blocks,pretty hard to block 3s out on the perimeter.and i know his value would go back up

  • @ what?
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:30 p.m.

    The Jazz and Knicks were trying to work a sign and trade involving Boozer and Lee, but could have had Lee for one year for much less money than paying Millsap for a multi-year deal. So do your homework BEFORE you post. Now go deliver those pizzas they are getting cold.........


  • Maxwell Murder
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:29 p.m.

    You people are hilarious.

  • please
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:28 p.m.

    trade ak to a team that will utilize his talent he was great until d-will decided he to freeze him out instead of sharing

  • Re: Michael
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:23 p.m.

    You have got to be on the Jazz payroll?? No one else would make such ludicrous statements... Use your real name next time.

  • Youngcito
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:20 p.m.

    @82games data - The Jazz need to play better team defense. Anyone who slashes to the basket a lot(usually SG and SF) do well against the Jazz because our team defense is terrible. I believe Ronnie Brewer and AK are great defenders, but we don't get enough rotation and help defense. Guys like Devin Brown scoring 30 pts is ridiculous.

  • saintmichaelpray
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:14 p.m.

    I agree that sloan and his system are the problem....it cannot be productive without HUSTLE and TOUGHNESS! UTAH DEM... sorry bro that whole same plays for years thing have proven to be top notch style for our hall of fame coach for lotsa years now. Our problems are chemistry, personnel, dedication, confidence,identity,and alot more but sorry, SLOAN IS NOT OUR PROBLEM! Just maybe the players don't want to play sloan style and have lost confidence and are making a point that they want him gone who knows but they definately don't have heart.

    Oh no!! I just realized that my Jazz are a replica of the Yankees philosophy of spend tons of money for players with no heart. NOOOOOOOO!!!

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:12 p.m.

    It's too bad we can't get the news firsthand from our local paper (Des News or SL Trib), but instead Yahoo sports. What's the point of having reporters if you just copy other people's investigating?

  • Cowboy Joe CAN YOU SAY
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:07 p.m.

    Non guaranteed contracts in the NBA. IF it were like the NFL everyone would have to perform or they don't get paid the full amount.

    Jan. 5, 2010 1:06 p.m.

    ***team will sign guard Sundiata Gaines from the Idaho Stampede***

  • gdog3
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:02 p.m.

    To me, getting cap relief means trading any of the following players: Brewer who doesn't make much this year (NBA relative) but will take much more to resign next year, AK who is real tough to trade given his salary this year and next (AK= big money with far less than equal output), Korver, who might be resigned for less next year (given unproductivity and injuries) but a significant and expiring contract nonetheless, Boozer for obvious reasons (like him or not). Now, Millsap is a stud but a hefty price tag. The Jazz probably won't get anything near as good in return.

    I would keep young talent (potential) with a low price tag to build around. That includes Matthews, Price, Koufos, and Fez. Maynor fit that bill and I was sad to see him go. If Brewer and Korver were gone, Price (undersized) could of moved into a backup SG role to Matthews. Maynor would of stayed behind D-Will and CJ Miles could of stayed at the SF. The Jazz might not have dropped off as much as some might thimk and they would of saved cash bigtime. Granted, multiple trades are almost impossible.

    If the

  • Frank Quest
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:02 p.m.

    @what would larry do - they could have traded Koufos? Why would any other team want Koufos? Everyone acts like making trades is so easy and KOC is just a weenie for not making big trades, forgetting that making a big trade also requires one or more other consenting teams.

  • Re: Floyd Johnson
    Jan. 5, 2010 1:00 p.m.

    Speak for yourself! I never thought he was worth the money when they signed him to the big contract. While I liked his effort years ago, I never felt he was worth the money due to his lack of offensive production and shooting ability. He is the type of player I thought he would be and that is undeserving of the money he gets...

  • Chip Dunkington
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:59 p.m.

    Trade Matthews? Just wow. When Matthews is on the floor, good things happen. Do you even watch the Jazz?

    Jan. 5, 2010 12:59 p.m.

    your on point. We all wanted AK when his contract was up and we payed market value. he then got moved to a new position and was not as good. AK was awesome at pf cause he can block shots and beat any pf in the league of the dribble. he is not a sf, he is a pf. so maybe once we get rid of half our team, we will put him back at pf. also, he played better then anyone else last night. so jazz fans, dont hate on ak cause he got paid.

    about our team, blow it up. everyone but dwill and milsap should be on the block, but the only people that we can move are loozer, brewer, goofy koofy, okur, korver the worst, and miles. we need to do something now. there is no reason to over pay for a team that does not care at all.

    Sloan, your the man but you time is up. we need a change now.

  • Frank Quest
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:58 p.m.

    @Floyd Johnson - Thank you for finally bringing some reason to the Andrei Kirilenko argument. I was here when it was time to extend his contract, I was listening to sports radio. Jazz fans were very vocal about wanting to keep him and to sign him to that deal. This was post Malone/Stockton and pre Boozer/Williams. The Jazz had to give him that contract and if they hadn't he would have gotten it elsewhere. I get sick watching him play now and I'd love to unload him, but at the time it was absolutely the right move.

  • Michael
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:55 p.m.

    You so called fans really don't have a clue.

    Kirilenko probably rates as one of the top 12 players in Jazz history. So what if he's overpaid. So is everyone else in the NBA.

    Millsap could put up decent numbers if he was ever allowed to play more then half the game. He showed that last season when Boozer was out of the lineup.

    Taking the salary cap relief at the end of the season would probably be the smartest thing you could do with Boozer at this point since your probably not going to get equal value in a trade.

    Every team with a brain SHOULD include there respective coach when adding or subtracting any players to the roster. It's only common sense.

    Deron is a warrior who plays to win every game. You can see it on his face every night. Nobody wants to win more then he does on this team. Anybody who thinks otherwise is clueless. People who are blaming D-Will for the Jazz play of late need to come back to reality. I hate to think where this franchise would be right now without him.

  • Re: Mathews a Thorn!
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:55 p.m.

    Is today opposite day? You just said to get rid of the one guy who plays 100% all the time and overachieves. Please tell me you were being sarcastic!

  • @what?
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:55 p.m.

    Actually the Jazz couldn't have signed David Lee. You can go over the salary cap to sign a player already on your team like they did with Millsap, but they couldn't have signed David Lee (a player not already on their team) because they were already over the cap. Nice try though GM. That being said, they should have let Millsap go.

  • Gregeory
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:51 p.m.

    Trade for Andre Igudola.
    Fire Sloan...Hire Hornancek

  • Woody
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:48 p.m.

    I think its about time to let O'connor go. He is one of a few that are still with the Jazz and we are still not a top-notch franchise. He makes a lot of the decisions and paychecks and we need some fresh faves.

  • Matthews a thorn!
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:41 p.m.

    Get rid of Matthews! He's the cancer that started the team to go bezerk!

  • Floyd Johnson
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:39 p.m.

    Andrei Kirlenko

    Unless you became a fan of the Utah Jazz in the last three years, do not complain about the Andrei Kirlenko contract. Andrei had a phenomenal year the last year of his previous contract, and every Utah fan wanted him on the team. Utah paid no more than market value for him at that time.

    Complain about his lack of effort or his hair style if you like, but we were all in favor of signing him to a new contract.

  • 82games data
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:37 p.m.

    indicate the following net points by position. PG +4.0, SG -2.0, SF -2.5, PF + 2.0, C +.4.

    Compared to the output of the teams the Jazz have played so far the SG and SF positions are getting fewer points than they are allowing.

    The strength of the team is the PG and PF positions. That is by design. The Jazz need bigger net from those positions or they need better shooting/defense from the wings (SG/SF).

    The Jazz are supposed to be an inside team but the percentage of shots taken inside is almost identical to opponents. The inside offense is not working but at this point the Jazz are not an inside team.

    The other stat that stands out is TOs from bad passes. That is really high. The Sloan motion offense is disrupted in the passing.

    More NBA teams are changing defenses to ones that are more effective against inside (used to be) teams like the Jazz.

    The Jazz have to become better at outside shooting or get the inside offense to work.

    Getting a wing or 2 who can shoot would fix some problems.

    Change the offense to eliminate TOs.

  • Utah Dem
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:36 p.m.

    MADRYBEG - can we add Jerry Sloan to the 'get rid of' list?

    You cannot be successful when you use the same plays for years.

  • Hypocrisy
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:30 p.m.

    Um Jerry, it's not just a few games that are causing everyone to consider trades... It's been the play of your team over the past 3 years. In case you haven't noticed, your team has regressed. In case you haven't noticed, you have the highest payroll in the entire league. In case you haven't noticed, you're currently one game out of the playoffs and only one game out of being in 11th place.

    Why would Greg Miller pay the Luxury Tax for a lottery team?

  • What?
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:27 p.m.

    The Jazz also overpaid for Millsap and could have had David Lee (who is much better BTW) for the same price. One mistake after another.

    Jan. 5, 2010 12:19 p.m.

    "You lose a couple of games..." Sloan says this in the final paragraph of this article. He is oversimplyfing this. I believe I speak for a large number of Jazz fans when I say we know that the Jazz will lose games. It is how you "pick your poison." The effort is awful and the urgency non-existent. I was there on Saturday. I was happy with one player: Ronnie Price. He showed guts and determination. He was on the floor half the time he was out there. The last, say ten games, have been awful to watch. Jerry Sloan is too stuck in his ways, but the players are cancer. Get rid of all but the following: Williams, Price, Matthews. Could care less about anyone else.

  • Mistakes have been made
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:16 p.m.

    The Jazz made a huge mistake in signing AK to his huge contract, now they can't unload him. Boozer is overpaid a little as well, so we can't get rid of him. So here is the reality. We have to give up alot of potential such as Miles, Matthews,Price, Brewer, Fez or Koufous to unload AK or Boozer. So if the Jazz make a deal, it will appear very lopsided. In the long run they need to get a trade done and hope that taking chances on some younger guys works out.

  • @Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:06 p.m.


    And I used to hate fans that said stuff like that.

    I'll still be a fan, I love the Jazz, but its just not worth my time to watch the games anymore. I'm really sad about it.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 12:01 p.m.

    It's true, AK has been awful this year. If anyone will take him off of our hands for an exp. deal, by all means PLEASE do it!

  • dont bother to trade boozer....
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:58 a.m.

    i would just take the salary cap relief at the end of the year. As far as AK goes, if there is anyway we could get Tmacs expiring contract and throw in a CJ and Kfes to make it match, I would do it in a heartbeat.

  • tell sloan
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:56 a.m.

    to trade KOC and greg miller places since apparently any trades that happen he must be made aware of.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:55 a.m.

    They should get rid of Kiralinko. HE doesnt do anything productive. The sad part is that nobody wants him because he doesnt do anything. Hopefully the jazz can make ti through this year...and get rid of Boozer...then next year...and get rid of Kirelinko, and then finally we will have some money to spend on players that are a little more productive.

  • I agree with Sloan
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:51 a.m.

    If everybody on the Utah Jazz's roster not named Deron Williams is potential trade bait, as a new "Yahoo! Sports" report suggests, that is certainly news to the team's coach."

    I agree--Deron should be on the list too--with all his pathetic turnover!!

    He is piling up his stats to make the allstar game for himself meanwhile his own team and team mates are floundering around him and not improving their games.

    Is that what a leader is supposed to do?

    Deron has most of the same talent except they are supposedly a few years better and less injuries than last year and yet where is Deron leading them?

    Deron our supposed untouchable leader has them on pace to LOSE MORE GAMES THAN LAST YEAR!!



  • What would Larry do
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:51 a.m.

    Why do the Jazz always sit on their hands and never make these rumors a reality?!?! Each year since D-Fish has left, we have been in a steady decline without making any effort to upgrade. But we will trade Maynor to a division rival (to cut cost) when they could've traded Koufus to them instead and keep Maynor. Since Larry would be flipping out right now and we would not see this roster if he was still around.

  • Anonymous
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:48 a.m.

    If the Jazz don't do anything, and just gets some garbage D-Leaguer, I'm done with them for the year. Maybe next year...

  • Please make a trade
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:43 a.m.

    I'm tired of watching this Jazz team struggle.

  • Houdini
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:43 a.m.

    miles should be at the top of the "to trade" list,with all that "potential and upside" he should be easy to unload

  • Kirilenko
    Jan. 5, 2010 11:38 a.m.

    Everyone always claims Greg Ostertag's long deal with the Jazz was the worst ever, but it doesn't compare to AK's. He's the most overpaid worthless player in the league. His contract alone is why the Jazz are in trouble because he's not a Top 100 player and hold the Jazz back from getting the pieces needed to compete. He will go down in history and the biggest dead weight in Jazz history.