My advice. Don't listen or even read todd "the Haters" comments. He's been
trying to ruin the Jazz for years now and has yet to add anything that would
truly benefit the Jazz. The best thing the Jazz could do would be to read
todd's posts and do the exact opposite, he would have this team in ruin faster
than you could say NY Knicks or Larry Brown and Charlotte. Todd is
the worst kind of hater in that he disagrees with everything the Organization
does while claming to be a fan. The Jazz's bigs have underperformed and have
put the Jazz in a bad place, middle of the pack, which can be hard to get out of
but listening to Todd is not the answer. I was not excited to see
EM go and worry that he could be another Mo Williams but understand the reason
behind it. I also think that this team could be in for some big changes in the
next few years. Booz will be gone along with Korver and possibly Brewer leaving
the Jazz with enough cap space to bring in a free agent now that Harp's gone.
Boozer, not KOC, is the guy to blame. If Boozer had opted out like he said he
would, we wouldn't be in this situation, and there would be more minutes for
Millsap and AK.
Were the Jazz 10 million dollars better BEFORE this trade?No.Maynor was a decent backup and may become a pretty good player but the
team had to make this deal.
I see your point, its hard to argue with a win now philosophy, and it's not like
the jazz don't have a shot, and the shot didn't improve with this trade.but, it's not good counseling to advise the jazz to keep an inflated
payroll when you look at their chances this year, which are better than most
think because of their record against good teams at home, but it would be ill
advised to take your chances with this roster, the only justification for
keeping the roster together would be that the jazz have a very good chance at a
championship, while they have a chance, the probablity of them even getting to
the second round seems low, besides, aren't you sick of this
jeckyl/hyde show, this team is not as good as expectations, maybe the
expectations aren't fair for this team, but a team w/o expectations who is
building, like okc, is a fun team and they don't have expectations, their fans
are happy, they get lucky w a young and fun team. and they have athletes.the jazz don't have enough athletes on their roster.
@Todd-Do you really tink okc would make this trade for price, koufus, fesenko,
brewer; first off, if , they traded brewer and harping. they couldn't do it,
because those two contracts would've sent okc over the salary cap. but more
importantly, okc had valuable cap space, and they were going to get a good piece
in exchange for their cap space, or leverage it for a draft pick; but you know
they had alot of teams wanting to trade with them, so, okc really did the jazz a
favor, they could've traded with another team just out of spite for the jazz,
they wanted maynor, they probably could've got a better player, but w this
trade, okc gets a player who will help them, and then next year, after harpring
comes off the books, they are still under the cap.todd, you want a
contender this year. how do you see this team getting up to championshiop
level, they've never really played up to that level,and w maynor gone, the
chances got worse.the jazz gave up alot, i was a huge maynor fan, he
was a solution for this team, but
all the best! i loved watching your confidence on the floor in a jazz uniform.
that's what fans pay to see. not the wins, but the players with tenacity. and
you're one guy we want to follow, no matter what ur uniform say on the front.
keep it going...
I am a great fan of Eric Maynor and was called the other day about the trade. I
then went online to see exactly how it went down. I did see that it was strictly
a business move but hate that he is really losing alot out of this himself. I
saw the other night at the bobcats game his appreciation for the jazz teammates
and Jerry Sloan who in my mind is one of the best coaches in history. I know
that in my mind Eric will do a great job where ever he plays but I hope that he
has the chance to settle down in Ok. and is giving the chance to really show
what Eric has in his game.
I with todd all the way!
Why is it that if Sloan leaves the Jazz are doomed to the worst fate ever? I do
not understand that arguement anymore. You know things could actually be better
just as easily. They said the same things about Stockton and Malone leaving.I do not think anyone here is kidding themselves into thinking that they
know more about basketball than the coaches or thinking they could run this team
better than The GM. But something is wrong and the fact that the average fan can
see it is telling. There is a big elephant sitting in the room and it is getting
hard not to talk about.I look forward to some changes.
sign a 3+ year vet since the league would pay part of the salary and only part
of the salary would count for luxury tax. I personally would like to
see a promising rookie like Jefferson or Paul Harris. They could sign a non
guaranteed contract for 435,000 or so. In the case of Jefferson they could leave
him playing for the Flash until he gets more experience.As long as
Price actually runs the team well I have no problem with him. But it would
really help this team to get a tall, good shooting combo guard who could run the
team well (better than Maynor).
All I know is that the Jazz cleared up a lot of space financially, it's possibly
Boozer's last season in Utah and they have the money to go after a big name
player. The Jazz will do one of three things from here: 1) Try to sign Boozer
again, 2) Trade Boozer along with a draft pick for a big name guy like Bosh or
3) Bring in another white european/russian or some no name, non producing John
Some of you guys don't get it. OKC wanted Maynor. They were willing to give up
cap room to get him. The Jazz needed the cap room worse than they needed
Maynor.Sad to see him go, but he is not irreplaceable. In fact he
is really quite replaceable.The Jazz may not be better right now as
a result of this trade, but they will be better in the future because of it.
Jazz Cop: We could not got rid of another player to Ok City I suppose? Such as
CJ Miles, Ronnie Price, Ron Brewer, how are these guys any better?Ron Brewer would be lucky to make a shot from 5 feet. You miss the point..
Everyone cuts back. The Angels lost money I read today in 2009. It is a
horrible economy., broadcasters Rex Hudler and Steve Physioc were let go because
they make too much.I was not against Matt Harpring leaving for the
bum but we could have sent another player there-what I want to do is forget
about some money and try and make a plan to win instead of giving up on the
year.I do not want to steal your state's team, I would rather still
be a Jazz Fan and go to my fix of games in Anaheim taking a team like Sacramento
cheer for and watch certain teams I like come in to have the best of both
worlds.It was not until "I came along" that more and
more by the day are starting to agree more and more. Read the comments and
people defending me.No keep same garbage
@ todd--you're free spending spirit has gone to far, with all your boycotting
and now, keep maynor, i'm sure you wouldn't be happy until the jazz are
financially ruined. consider yourself removed from your position.you seem
to be a fan, but sometimes i wonder.
To Sloan haters:What you don't realize is that Jerry is the best
case scenario. He's the best at getting average players to look great by
sticking to a "Rigid" system. On the road we get beat because we lack the
talent to score and the quickness to defend. But that has to do with the
"horses" we have. Utah is a small market and we cannot get All-Stars through
free-agency. And in the trade market, the best we've done is Boozer and Okur.
The Draft is the only time we've gotten All-Stars (Stockton, Karl, D-will, etc.)
Sloan gets the most out the players he has. If any other coach was
in here, they'd not only have a losing road record, but the Jazz would have a
worse stigma than the LA Clippers. Marquee players don't avoid Utah because of
Sloan, they do it because it's a small market and a conservative city. So at this Christmas time, let's be grateful for what we have because it
could be a lot worse. Sloan led us to two Finals appearances against the
greatest player to play the game.
Wow some stupid guys on here have no clue what they are talking about.. Hmm..
why not trade Kyle Korver? Probably cause the Thunder didnt want an overpaid pre
madona! Why not Price? Why not Koufous? Because Oklahoma didnt want them! They
wanted Maynor! You guys have no intelligence talking about this stuff.. We
traded for cap space! And you guys talking about spending the money to win! You
really think Maynor is going to lead us to a Championship? Come on guys.. They
need to get under the Luxury tax so they can actually do something in the
offseason.. If they didnt do this.. every team in the NBA would have them firmly
grasped down below to do anything they wanted with them! You guys think this
stuff is so easy..You guys are ignorant
Sloan is lost. I do not think he knows alot about what is going on. He just sits
there with his mouth open, with a dazed and confused look on his face. I wonder
if he can see how bad Boozer and Okurs defense really is. Does he even know that
Fes is back from Orem.
Jerrys days are over, he has "retired" to a year to year kind of "I'll stay
around a while and help Greg with this sorry lot...until he matures enough to
make a hard decision. Watch this team play, theyt have no motivation or
direction...they are a lost and disorganized bunch of money burners.
Is that the best thing Miller could do? Maynor is going to make the Jazz very
sorry. Why was it when everbody was injured, Maynor and Matthews really made
the Jazz look good.
If it was up to this state and "being scared of change" We may have Mcgovern a
4 term president..
Bad deal all the way around. Why not lose Korver?
ALL OF YOU STOP IT!!GET OUT OF YOUR MIND SET IT HAS TO BE A JERRY
CLONE TO REPLACE HIM.GET OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE..MAKE
MEANINGFUL CHANGE--NO HORNACEK. NO STOCKTON NO PHIL JOHNSON NO CORBINBRING SOMEONE FROM OUTSIDE TO CLEAN THIS SHIP UPfans did not want
TOM LANDRY REPLACED EITHERRemember WHAT FOLLOWED......
Eric maynor is a stud. No jazz fan wanted him traded. This was strictly
This team in my opinion has management and coaching problems. The team has no
direction!! MAKE Jerry commit to a 5 year contract. This year to
year stuff needs to end. If he cannot commit then it is time to say goodbye.
Every year we go through the drama. Imagine what the players think? If you are trying to build a team , I dont know maybe you would want a Coach
that is in it for the long haul. That is how it worked for Sloan , Stockton, and
malone years ago. They grew together. Sloan was not even Sloan if you know what
I mean.My point is maybe it is time to move on. Maybe what this team
needs is a fresh start. Change is not a bad thing. Frank Layden knew when it was
his time to hang it up and look at all the wonderful years we had after that.
I would like to see Corbin given a shot. I love his energy and
passion on the bench. Reminds me of another younger Coach we had years ago.
Sh@'s quote of the day: "I love what Williams does for the community, but he
does not run the offense here as well as Maynor did. He ran the offense very
well and in his rookie year. I wish him the best, he has a big future in the
Time for Sloan to get ready to plow.
Bad, bad move Jazz... this young kid showed he could play far ahead of his draft
position and experience. I really like Ronnie Price's heart and desire, but
frankly Maynor was a better PG for this team. If you absolutely had to drop
salary, it should have come from a Boozer, Kirilenko or even a Kyle Korver
trade, they are the only over-paid players on the team. Is Mo Williams
What exactly is our plan to be a top tier team in the future? If we don't plan
to spend money and keep up with the other teams we can expect exactly that - to
lose to all of those teams. Anyone that costs any money we want to ship away.
We have Williams and beyond that not much else next year. We have Memo and his
no defense. We have Kirilenko and his mental head case. We have Millsap who
has not proven to be great. I highly doubt the Jazz have some plan to bring in
a big name free agent next year as they are deomonstrating the desire to shed
money at all cost right now. No future for the Jazz with this penny pinching
I'm ready for the next trade.....someone with heart would be nice. Jazz mailed
in this one. The only one who could cool down Booz in the first quarter was
Jerry who always takes the hot hand out of the game. Jerry go ahead and move
Memo to the bench, he deserves to be replaced by Fes or Koufos.
I love it when a guy who sits in a cubicle in Murray thinks that he knows better
how to run an NBA franchise and coach the team better than the guys who have
been doing it for a long time. Get a clue! Most of you couldnt even coach my
daughters jr jazz team and most of you would have already driven the jazz out of
town if you were in charge. So shut up and realize that Maynor plays 8 minutes a
game. I am just guessing but they probably didnt want to trade him but to save
that much money(which every single one of you posting would do I hope) they had
to give up something of value.
Contrary to what Ronnie Price thinks, this has everything to do with Maynor's
play: OKC really needs a good backup, or even a starting PG, and Maynor is
increasingly looking like he should have been a lottery pick. If it was only a
financial move for them, they would have been happy to take Ronnie Price or
Koufos off our hands.
I love what Williams does for the community, but he does not run the offense
here as well as Maynor did. He ran the offense very well and in his rookie year.
I wish him the best, he has a big future in the league!
...he's still grinning ear to ear. He must be so happy to be out of SLC and it's
lack of diversity.
Don't expect cj to play well the next few games, consider it a casualty of the
roster situation, thinking a trade might happen is what it takes to undermine
his progress so far, but he'll get back onto it, i expect a few funky games from
the youngster, sloan should be mindful of that and not push it.guys like
koufus will play better thinking a trade might happen, as he would want to play
good so he can get on another squad that will give him a chance. i'd start
giving him some minutes.as for beasley,i had thought it would
be a good idea to do a sign and trade with boozer and the knicks pick. I
rescind that. beasley might be worth the risk on a sign and trade with boozer,
but he's not worth risking a top 10 pick on ontop of that. honestly, after last
summer, big question marks, he could've been on drugs last night, i wouldn't be
surprised, as it is, most people think he is a huge dissapointment, after last
night, I wouldn't want the jazz to get involved with him.
I believe the "Pay what it takes" went down the drain with all the NON Playoff
team losses this season. There comes a time when you have to call it what it
is... This is NOT a Championship team. Maybe a first round playoff team, but it
will not make the second round. Until this Jazz team can win consistently on
the road and win games against sum .500 teams, it had better start preparing for
the future and cut your losses.Maynor actually is better off in OKC.
They are a young team that is learning how to win and win on the road even!!
He goes from a wannabe to a soontobe playoff contender.
The Jazz have been on the receiving end of the luxury tax dollars for the past
few years. Presumably this is the only year they will exceed the threshold.
Throwing away talent is what most teams in the NBA do, since they don't have any
expectations delivering a competitive team on the court but simply want to rake
in the dough. It is a business, and from the looks of things here, Seattle is a
much better market to exploit.
I think he is available.
Where are the comments from those who got all the money that lead to this
situation..no statement from those with ultra million contracts???
let's face it..Greg Miller is no Larry Miller...Larry grew up working hard long
hours, Greg grew up lookinf pretty...the next generation
What ever happened to paying what it takes to put the best team out on the
floor? I guess if o'conner and miller did their best in the offseason they
wouldn't be flailing now to save a buck. I have been a fan of the Jazz for 22
years and never lived close to slc so I had to put a lot of effort into
following these guys - especially pre Internet. I've never been more
disinterested in them as I am now. They need a better product to increase their
revenue if it is so important.
I just hope the front office plans on having a big trade with boozer if they
dont dumb dumb dumb move from the jazz front office... Im a jazz fan but
something needs to happened soon... seriously
Smart move. Painfully smart. But still smart.
I like Maynor, but how could you refuse that offer? A late 1st round rookie
with mid level potential who backs up one of the top guys at his position and
will likely never average much more than 7 minutes a game on this team to drop
$10 million in salary? This was a no brainer. Sorry to see him go, but
yeah...Most of you guys just like ripping on sloan and o'conner.
You'd complain no matter what moves were made.
Unbelivable.and we have season tickets. its all business.what about the quality
of ball whe are seeing.
We might be better with a game plan by hiring as a consultant Danny White
formerly with the Utah Blaze who took garbage team to the playoffs 2 years in
Arena.I would bet he could even outcoach SLoan.Not
so is Polyniece, Donaldson and Spencer. O' Connor is watching them this week at
the rec center I will have a confidential report on progress Monday to
I hear Ostertag is available.
never Jerrys fault though, remember that-always the players...
Very sorry to see Eric get traded to the Thunder, although the business reasons
are understandable. Best of luck to this great young player in what I hope is a
long NBA career. (Who knows, we've seen some players find there way back to the
I think Sloan will have Brevin 2Knight back!
Not a smart move, Jazz. Ughhh....
John Hollinger: "Utah effectively donated Maynor to Oklahoma City because of the
mind-boggling financial savings. ... The big question for Jazz fans, however, is
whether this portends a trade of Carlos Boozer."Why would the Maynor
trade have anything to do with a Carlos Boozer trade? Lazy journalism. The
Maynor trade will lead to the signing of a low price third point guard. But
that is not as sexy as a possible Boozer trade, so Hollinger is not going to
write about that. It's alllll about the ratings, not legit news.
How about Gortatt and Bass for C-Booz?
Show us what you got Kev. Maynor could have played here more than a decade and
would likely take the starting role when Williams leaves in 2 more years. GEt
rid of AK, Booze ... stock up on draft picks.