Utah Jazz notebook: Jerry Sloan says Memo Okur needs to get better looks

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    Dec. 21, 2009 3:14 p.m.

    Okur is a great 3 point shooter and a decent rebounder.


    He is the Center and CAN NOT DEFEND THE RIM!!

    We can not WIN ANYTHING wtih Okur and BOOZER together and there is no question who is more valuable. BOOZER!!

    Okur is a good guy, nice team mate, good 3 point shooter, decent rebounder BUT that is not his job. His job has to be to defend the rim and he is incapable.

    Trade him--there are lots of teams that could care less about defense and would love a good guy like Okur who can bomb it from deep.

    The dynamic defenseless duo of Okur and Boozer must end and the sooner it does the more games we will win.

  • todd to cougfan
    Dec. 21, 2009 3:04 p.m.


    response: WORTHLESS

  • Coug Fan
    Dec. 21, 2009 2:24 p.m.

    It shouldn't be hard to replace Sloan. There are a whole bunch of top notch coaches giving their free advice and vast knowledge and understanding of the game in these posts.
    Actually, the Jazz don't even need a coach. they should just read the comments from the experts above, and pass them on to the team, then we could celebrate our NBA championship next June!

  • @Anoyous
    Dec. 21, 2009 1:25 p.m.

    On the subject of Boozer and Okur in the same game together: I saw them both go for a rebound and their hands collided and the ball went out of bounds. I've seen that a couple of times in other games. Can't they say "I got it"? real loud? Okur looks likes he's gained some weight, he's slow this season and his game is off. It can't all be Boozer's fault.
    I can't understand why Jerry Sloan keeps saying the Jazz are a young team. These players have been together for a few years. The only rookies this season are Maynor and Matthews. I guess coach has gotta have an excuse for the Jazz's erratic play.
    Miles is really in a groove, his game is really on.
    He pops 3's like they're candy. :-)

  • Fess is a good
    Dec. 21, 2009 1:04 p.m.

    ...defender, but only if he can stay on the floor. If the coaching staff could count on this, he would probably play 20-25 min per game, much of it on the starting big of the opponent, but the kid still does not have the instincts to stay on his feet and/or in front of people. Given all of this, he still should be playing at least 15 min per game. At a minimum, he wears the bigs on the other side down with his incredible size and strength, which is very helpful in the 4th quarter. As we hear coaches say all too often, you can't teach height and size -- the Jazz under-utilize this boy-giant.

  • Sh@
    Dec. 21, 2009 11:50 a.m.

    Memo is not doing well, defensively he is a liability. Sloan needs to go, I cannot support his substitutions and OCD mentality when it comes to lineups and subs.

  • Sloan can win some
    Dec. 21, 2009 11:44 a.m.

    games by playing both Boozer and Okur together. However, there are times when he can't and he knows he can't and he just plays them together anyway.

    Yes, every coach makes mistakes and then tends to learn from the mistakes. Sloan develops patterns, that lose games, and then refuses to change the patterns.

    That pattern of denial, that there is any need to adjust, pervades the whole organization like cancer.

    At this point it is more than "Sloan is stubborn" and refuses to adjust. There is a corporate culture of not making any changes unless absolutely forced to do so. It is way beyond "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". It is more like "if it is broke it will have to fix itself."

    Sloan may have fixed his back to back problem inadvertently by having enough talent (at very high expense). Let's see if he can fix his road record (2-18 for 20 years), his lack of defense and especially his inability to cope with tall athletic teams.

    A HOF does not have these types of problems for years if he is trying to win and makes the right adjustments.

  • Lo Porto
    Dec. 21, 2009 11:20 a.m.

    Trade Okur before we start dreading his contract like we do AK's.

  • Sokol
    Dec. 21, 2009 10:38 a.m.

    Why is it that the Jazz may have the big body they need sitting on the bench, but refuse to play him?
    Okur's matador defense is embarassing at times....we need Fesenko.

  • B.R.
    Dec. 21, 2009 9:25 a.m.

    We could use Memo ( but NEVER in the game at the same time as Boozer.) if he would wake up and play some defense. When Memo's shot is not falling he is as big a liability as Korver is. How much do we pay these two guys?

    Lets bring on the Big Feller. It's time.

  • Nevada fan
    Dec. 21, 2009 9:24 a.m.

    Sloan's comments: I agree with your defense philosophy. I believe that's the problem with not having a great Center. I hope the front office makes a move before the deadline and I hope Boozer decides to stay, or the get someone like Bosh.

  • Miles
    Dec. 21, 2009 8:57 a.m.

    Dwill is taking all of Memo's shots this year so he can make the all-star team.

  • Ed
    Dec. 21, 2009 8:48 a.m.

    Why don't some of the critics have NBA coaching jobs? Sometimes Sloan makes mistakes. Who doesn't?

  • Sloans Comments?
    Dec. 21, 2009 8:26 a.m.

    We are still a young team and have a lot to learn. Pathetic thats what that statement is! How long does it take to learn this Sloan system that doesn't work? What about your defensive philosopy Sloan? Do you still think double teaming every player with the ball and leaving shooters wide open uncontested shots is the right thing to do? Again pathetic! Running your offense has since day one even with the great Karl, Stock, and Horny put your teams at the very top in the league every year in turnovers. Who's kidding who here?

  • grouchyoldmanandproudofit
    Dec. 21, 2009 8:04 a.m.

    Wheather it be missing shots, turn overs, laziness, missing foul shots or whatever,with the depth that Coach Sloan has on the bench it should be. . ."If you don't produce you collect pine"! Interesteringly, thats the way it was when we won the state championship. It created an interesting situation in the locker room. We were friends but when we got on the floor we had one goal and that was to do your part and win. Earn your start or sit down. For the first time coach Sloan has a healthy roster that is pretty good. Now lets see if he can pull a PJ for the fans.

  • The Jazz now have
    Dec. 20, 2009 11:17 p.m.

    enough depth to win back to backs.

    On Okur, Boozer has taken more of the inside looks. That is partly Boozer getting open and partly DWill hitting Boozer instead of Okur who is pulling his man out so Boozer can get open.

    The ball movement tends to break down when the other team disrupts DWill, the bigs inside can't get open, the screens are weak, the passes go down and the outside shooting goes up, the defense is tall athletic and switches well.

    All of the above are related and result in the Jazz standing around pumping up jump shots with little hope of rebounds.

    This is why the Jazz are so erratic. The Sloan system is inherently erratic and often dependent on the defense of the opponent.

    Sloan of course can fix the above problems by making substitutions. However, he often does not because that would alter his set rotations.

    He also could alter the offensive plays (which he did last year).

    It really is a matter of coaching and preparing for each team instead of just showing up (coaches and players).

  • Anonymous
    Dec. 20, 2009 11:04 p.m.

    Cannot coexist Boozer and Memo